North American Union driver's license created!!!! (ALIPAC)

DRIVINGisCOMMERCE · ALIPAC New Recruit! Joined: Sep 06, 2007 Posts: 5

If you didn't HAVE TO have a LICENSE to use your car to go to your place of worship or to the store to buy food, would you go get one?

Who in their right mind, and especially under the current circumstances, would answer YES?!

WE HAVE BEEN MISLEAD!

The LICENSE is EVIDENCE of the State's PERMISSION for the holder of the LICENSE to engage in BUSINESS. If you're not getting paid to go to the store to buy food then you're NOT IN BUSINESS.

Simply verify the LEGAL definition of LICENSE and you'll begin to understand the scam. We have been CONDITIONED to believe that NONcommercial TRAVEL requires a LICENSE. We have been CONDITIONED to use terms applicable to BUSINESS/COMMERCE to NONcommercial conduct.

TRAFFIC = COMMERCE
PASSENGER = SOMEONE WHO PAYS A FARE
TRANSPORTATION = COMPENSATED CONDUCT
DRIVER = AN EMPLOYEE, SOMEONE COMPENSATED or AUTHORIZED TO BE COMPENSATED
MOTOR VEHICLE = A DEVICE USED FOR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES

We have been lead to believe that COMMERCIAL USE and NONcommercial USE are the same thing. THEY ARE NOT. The court know the difference.

This case was decided by the California Supreme Court in 1914, IT HAS NEVER BEEN OVERTURNED!!!:

1. LICENSES (§ 5*) - CHAUFFEURS.

The occupation of a chauffeur is one calling for regulation and therefore permitting a regulatory license tax.
[Ed. Note. -For other cases, see licenses, Cent. Dig §§4, 19; dec. Dig. § 5*]

2. STATUTES (§ 81*) - SPECIAL LEGISLATION-CLASSIFICATION.

Dividing, as does St. 1913, p. 639, drivers of automobiles into two classes, one professional chauffeurs, and requiring them to obtain a license, and pay an annual fee of $2, the other embracing all others, who are not required to secure a license or pay a license fee, is sound classification and not arbitrary, so as to constitute special legislation.
Ex parte Stork (Cr. 1843), (Supreme Court of California. Feb. 24, 1914), 167 Cal. 294

Then in 2000 the US Supreme Court had this to say about it:

“The activity licensed by state DMVs and in connection with which individuals must submit personal information to the DMV - the operation of motor vehicles - is itself integrally related to interstate commerce”.
Seth Waxman, Solicitor General
U.S. Department of Justice
BRIEF FOR THE PETITIONERS
Reno v. Condon, No. 98-1464, decided January 12, 2000, United States Supreme Court

A DRIVER LICENSE is for people who are in BUSINESS. You DO NOT NEED a LICENSE for NONcommercial conduct.

A really simple test to verify this is to look at the CLASS indicated on your license. Then the next time you see a cab DRIVER go up to them and ask them what CLASS of LICENSE they have. In California the common CLASS is C. A cab DRIVER is issued a CLASS C license, just like 99.9% of everyone else who has a license.

jp_48504 · Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 8:25 am Post subject:

DRIVINGisCOMMERCE,
You may not need one, and have the money to pay attorney fees in court, but I do not, so I want to be able to legally drive instead of getting my car impounded and having to go to court.

No, if I was told I need one to worship the beast, I would not get one. I will not get another one until Real ID is repealled and the biometrics and FRT are taken out of the DL.
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boxersbear · Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 2:42 pm Post subject:

I like others don't understand why they had all of North America on the hologram. If not North Carolina then just the US. If there is going to be any sort of organized protest against this please let me know. I won't have to get my license for a few more years and I dang sure ain't gonna get one with all of North America on it. I'm a citizen of the US NOT the NAU.

And even though other have commented on it I have to say again it's real BS for them to start with at "REAL ID" in North Carolina since we not only give illegals a driver's licenses with not real proof of being here legally but we also give them a chance to register to vote without proof of citizenship. I use to be proud to be from NC but lately I'm more and more embarassed to say so.

jp_48504 · Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 10:03 pm Post subject:

duece212 · ALIPAC Master Joined: Apr 30, 2006 Posts: 435

This is absolutely wrong. Things are a little further along than most know if a continent wide id system is already being tested/implemented. I agree, calling our state reps to try and keep this from happening in our states is a good idea.

My hope actually lies in the criminals hands on this one though. The quickest way to get this ID shutdown is for somebody to reproduce a working copy, chip and all and render it insecure.

That will just put the SPP/NAU groupies on the hunt for a new ID but atleast thats a roadblock.

SOSADFORUS · Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 10:00 am Post subject:

BTTT
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fedupDeb · Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2007 7:44 pm Post subject:

Wow!!! How did I miss this before now? I just looked at my new DL, and fortunately there is nothing unusual on it. However, there is something similar to a bar code on the back. This is very disturbing.

Thanks for the info.
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Bostonteaparty · ALIPAC Adept 2 Joined: Oct 03, 2007 Posts: 219

I think i am going to be sick.
Crying or Very sad

if i get a license with that logo it is getting hit with a grinder

i am afraid by the time America wakes up this will all be done and we wont have a choice.
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jp_48504 · Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 4:34 pm Post subject:

BTT
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POTUS · Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 1:34 pm Post subject:

Dianer · Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 2:25 pm Post subject:

Maybe a good idea is to renew your license and carry around the verification [camera authoization card] but don't get your picture taken.If stopped by police, show your old license, the NCIC computer will verify a valid license.
You will be legal but not have the new card. Problem solved.
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Lynne · ALIPAC Titan Joined: Nov 09, 2007 Posts: 868 Location: NC

Do you think they would issue you a license without having the picture taken?

azwreath · ALIPAC Super Hero Joined: Jun 14, 2007 Posts: 6335

Dianer wrote:

Maybe a good idea is to renew your license and carry around the verification [camera authoization card] but don't get your picture taken.If stopped by police, show your old license, the NCIC computer will verify a valid license.
You will be legal but not have the new card. Problem solved.

Keep in mind that some states require all old forms of ID...whether licenses or state ID....be turned in before they will issue a new one.

The only way to get around that is to go in and get a duplicate saying that the original was lost or possibly stolen. This way, you have two and if you need to turn in any previous license or ID before getting a new you, you will still have one left.

However, keep in mind that if you ever need to display it, it can be confiscated.

Before trying anything like that it's adviseable to see what your state's policy is concerning licenses and ID.
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lccat · ALIPAC Hero Elite Joined: May 19, 2007 Posts: 1921

Bush will not stop until he is the President of the North American Union and the United States is just another Third World Country. The Citizens of North Carolina must be VERY PROUD of their elected and appointed officials with helping Bush and the Elitist Politicians turn over our Nation to the invader ILLEGALS for the profit of the very few.