Welcome to Illegal Immigration: Americans Fighting Back

 Create an AccountHome | Your Account | Privacy Policy | *Contribute/Join* | Volunteer | Our Platform | Executive Members | ALI-PAC Action Panel  

Join the ALI-PAC Email Alert List

Main Menu
· Home
· Discussion Groups
· Private Messages
· Search
· Stories Archive
· Surveys
· Top 10
· Topics
· Web Links
· Your Account

ALI Member Login
Nickname

Password

Don't have an account yet? You can create one. As a registered user you have some advantages like theme manager, comments configuration and post comments with your name.

Current Group Discussions

 Obama gave a congratulatory statement to the OBL on monitor
 URGENT - MUST READ - 3/21 - Stupak 12 is growing!
 Cars that run on water...?
 TV RECON Needed ASAP
 Protesters shout at Pelosi, Frank about health care
 Contrary to popular belief, Americans will do the jobs
 Call Stupak and all prolife dems tell them Pelosi's deal won
 Pittsburgh Activist Group Targeted By S.P.L.C.,Propaganda
 Why La Racist (la raza) must be stopped!
 Video: Assault on Free Speech in DC Roy Beck Harassed

Illegal Immigration: Americans Fighting Back Forums


Site Traffic
We received
187105763
page views since September 11 2004

  
Help support ALIPAC - Donate Today!

illegal immigration debate :: View topic - VIDEO: Gheen and Sanchez fight on CNN over illegals
 Forum FAQForum FAQ   SearchSearch   UsergroupsUsergroups   ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

VIDEO: Gheen and Sanchez fight on CNN over illegals
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    illegal immigration debate Forum Index -> Pictures & Videos of Illegal Immigration
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
April
ALIPAC Executive Officer
ALIPAC Executive Officer


Joined: Dec 07, 2006
Posts: 21780

PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ALIPAC wrote:
I could not see the video clip played about the soldier, Darwin, and I could barely hear it.

I asked Sanchez if the guy was an illegal because he kept talking as if he was.

He tells me point blank at 5:45 in the video "Yes, this guy is an illegal alien in the Military"

I have no way of telling if Sanchez was wrong or if his producer that made the video clip is wrong.

If Sanchez is wrong, he owes that soldier and me an apology.

W


Sanchez is not the sharpest tool in the shed. Who knows if he even reviewed the video before playing. Rolling Eyes He is the fly by the seat of the pants, not check out the facts kind of guy. He trys to sway with misguided emotion and not truth, so he is going to get LOTS of reality checks. Rolling Eyes
_________________

Running FULL FORCE AGAINST AMNESTY for ILLEGALS!!!!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Reno_Raider
ALIPAC Fledgling
ALIPAC Fledgling


Joined: Jun 22, 2006
Posts: 13

PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is encouraging to see that we have someone of William Gheen's caliber supporting our cause. Very well done Mr. Gheen.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
April
ALIPAC Executive Officer
ALIPAC Executive Officer


Joined: Dec 07, 2006
Posts: 21780

PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Digger weighs in on this:

http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-90502.html
_________________

Running FULL FORCE AGAINST AMNESTY for ILLEGALS!!!!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Lawrence
ALIPAC Fledgling
ALIPAC Fledgling


Joined: Nov 13, 2007
Posts: 26

PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:01 am    Post subject: The "Greatest Generation" is still very much with Reply with quote

Yes, exactly.

It's the voices of men like Lou Dobbs, William Gheen and Glen Beck that represent what is best about America......to stand up for what's right, no matter who or what disruptive forces such as Sanchez or certain politicians or special socioethnic interests are around them. They are the true American heros of our generation, and they speak for the vast majority of our people. Nor will they be silenced. Nor will we ever stop speaking praises of what they do and how they do it.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ang
ALIPAC Fledgling 2
ALIPAC Fledgling 2


Joined: Sep 21, 2007
Posts: 43

PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will someone please tell Sanchez that a GREEN CARD means you are here legally. This Sgt. did not sneak across the border & then enlist. My husband was an officer in the U.S. Army & unless things have changed, one has to show I.D. upon enlistment. We have always had foreigners in our military from the beginning, but they were not illegally here! I love the way these guys want to justify illegal entry into our country, just because they have the same ethnicity. All our ancestors came from somewhere else & they had to jump through hoops to become citizens. So what, they did it & here we are, next case!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Martha
ALIPAC Adept 2
ALIPAC Adept 2


Joined: Nov 08, 2007
Posts: 204

PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
In everyone of the sections you will find wording such as " appropriation of funds as available".

This entire bill is full of loopholes that will allow for non-enforcement.

It is my belief that Congress and Senate having failed to convince the American public to grant amnesty have come up with this HR 4088 The so called SAVE act

Feathers, I hope you are wrong about this. I have been calling Congress asking them to support this thing. I had hope this was a step in the right direction.
I'd like to know how much it costs us to pass a law. I think the cost is astronomical. It's especially irritating when they waste so much time on laws that will just get shot down or veto'd anyway, and they know it. (not referring to the SAVE ACT) That's our damn money their wasting! Twisted Evil
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Rhondar
ALIPAC New Recruit!


Joined: Jun 22, 2007
Posts: 4
Location: Texas

PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:32 am    Post subject: Rick Sanchez is a moron Reply with quote

If the fast track to citizenship involves using illegal aliens for cannon fodder I wonder why not just hire them as mercenaries? That is what they are. I am not in favor of either scenario.

The loyalty factor is in question. Most illegal immigrants have their bodies in the US but their hearts and their money in the old country. Just watch any demonstration and you will see the Mexican flag displayed. Since what money they send to Mexico is the 2nd gross national product I'd say we can safely say that's where their loyalty lies.

Rick's arguments are weak, emotional drivel. He is rude because he answers questions and doesn't allow an answer. His positions on illegal aliens are indefensible. Rick doesn't seem to understand that a democracy is majority rule. Maybe that's from his hispanic heritage since his heart must also be in the old country. IT'S TIME FOR MEXICANS, CENTRAL AMERICANS, SOUTH AMERICANS TO REVOLT AND CHANGE THEIR OWN COUNTRIES IF THEY WANT A BETTER LIFE.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
usmcvet
ALIPAC Apprentice 2
ALIPAC Apprentice 2


Joined: Mar 14, 2005
Posts: 115
Location: GA

PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks William:
Illegal is illegal. They should not be here. As a Viet Nam veteran, I resent that the illegals are allowed to scam the system ala "make a sacifice" for our nation. They have no allegiance to America at all. No way Hosay.
_________________
"Never suppose that in any possible situation, or under any circumstances, it is best for you to do a dishonorable thing..." --Thomas Jefferson
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
carolinamtnwoman
ALIPAC Super Hero
ALIPAC Super Hero


Joined: May 31, 2007
Posts: 4135
Location: Asheville, Carolina del Norte

PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rick Sanchez DID say that the soldier was an ILLEGAL ALIEN, however, he also mentioned that the soldier had a GREEN CARD. If this is true, the question is whether or not the green card was valid or had expired, which would then determine whether or not the soldier was actually an IMMIGRANT or ILLEGAL ALIEN. I think William should clarify this point with Mr. Sanchez.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
mjgour
ALIPAC New Recruit!


Joined: Nov 13, 2007
Posts: 1

PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 12:59 pm    Post subject: Rick Sanchez and Gheen Reply with quote

I applaud you on the debate of illegal immigration with Sanchez
I viewed the video and left a negative comment at the Youtube site.......
He is so biased and racist.
When will these people ever GET IT......ILLEGALS NEED TO GO BACK TO
WHERE THEY CAME FROM !!!!!!!!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Joe_Liberty
ALIPAC Fledgling
ALIPAC Fledgling


Joined: Sep 25, 2006
Posts: 12

PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with William Gheen and disagree with Sanchez. I would like some help with New Yorkers for Immigration Control and Enforcement (NY I.C.E.) of which I am a member. Up until now I think this has been a pretty good group. However, I posted this item there and was suprised to discover that, so far, the response of other members favors Sanchez over Gheen. I am so perplexed at their reaction that I am not even sure how to respond. Please join at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NYimmigrationreform/ , take a look at the recent messages on the subject, and respond accordingly.

Thank you.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
bettybopper
ALIPAC Fledgling 1st Class
ALIPAC Fledgling 1st Class


Joined: Oct 31, 2007
Posts: 55

PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

a huge number of americans went to europe and fought to save the butts of france, britain, and other countries. if we hadn't, they'd all be speaking german now. we were not given citizenship in any of those countries. i wonder if the topic for debate is given to sanchez's guests ahead of time. if so, gheen should've been better prepared. if he had been, surely he would've mentioned the soldier having a green card. if not, sanchez shouldn't be bringing up a subject that is untrue.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
rkelley99
ALIPAC New Recruit!


Joined: Nov 13, 2007
Posts: 1

PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:22 pm    Post subject: Little disappointed in William Reply with quote

Although Mr. Gheen did a usual great job stressing all our beleifs, I was a little disappointed in him not catching the "green card holding" portion of Rick's video. Rick is always an idiot, but William could have truely nailed him, had he busted him out immediately on those points, rather than us debating the obvious after the fact. I think William might have been getting his blue shirt ironed during that segment!!!!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
MW
ALIPAC Super Hero
ALIPAC Super Hero


Joined: Jun 01, 2006
Posts: 12473
Location: North Carolina

PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rcawdor57 wrote:

Quote:
It amazes me that many people who watched the debate last night will actually believe Rick is telling the truth simply because he is part of CNN.


That is exactly why William should demand a public apology on Rick's show tonight! As said in earlier posts, the video clearly commented that Darwin was one of the Green Card troops. There is no argument for illegal immigrants in the military, that's is why he made no distinction between legal and illegal. Illegals are not currently eligible to enlist in our Armed Forces!

We need to do what ever we can to expose Rick Sanchez for the liar he is. All of us should contact CNN and demand an apology for being lied to! Perhaps it wouldn't hurt to contact Lou Dobbs too. Wouldn't it be nice if he would do a continuation of the Darwin story to correct the false perception many who watched the Sanchez show received. We can't let this slip by unnoticed!

Diggers Realm wrote:

Quote:
I have this video posted at my entry on Rick Sanchez outright lying (including at least six I list that I know of offhand).


That's great! We all need to do whatever possible to expose the liar for what he is!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Kreativeart
ALIPAC New Recruit!


Joined: Oct 25, 2007
Posts: 6

PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 2:03 pm    Post subject: Rick Sanchez is a GAS BAG! Reply with quote

rcawdor57 wrote:
It amazes me that many people who watched the debate last night will actually believe Rick is telling the truth simply because he is part of CNN.
I just wrote an email to CNN telling them I am disgusted with the lies they tell on their News and that they have a responsibility to tell the truth, not fabricated stories to incite the masses. I served in the U.S. Navy for 21 years and served with quite a few non-U.S. Citizens who were Green Card holders and here in the U.S. LEGALLY. It is IMPOSSIBLE to get into the military without a valid SSN or a valid Green Card. The background checks for the person who is applying are intense and I doubt anyone will slip by. Besides, if an illegal DID try to enter our military I do believe they will be arrested, interrogated and deported.
Anyway, everyone should write CNN and let them know we are not taking their B.S. especially Rich Sanchez's crap. Good going William!

RCawdor


When I watched the video, it was the first time I ever heard of Rick Sanchez. OMG.... what a fork-tounged GAS BAG! And what a bunch of crock too! Does this Slickie Rickie guy really think people are that stupid? I work for the military as a civilian employee and have done so for almost two decades. In my experience with the foreign nationals in the US military, they have some kind of prior legal status that allows them to be there in the first place, as explained by rcawdor57 in the above quote. Yes, they do get faster permanent citizenship by serving in the military, but the fact is, they are still taking a LEGAL route to citizenship.

What Mister Sanchez fails to point out, and this was SOOOOOOOO obvious to me, is the DIFFERENCES between the young man featured in the video and the illegal aliens. Let me name some, and you all can add to the list if I left anything out:
- He did not enter the US as an ILLEGAL
- He has a GREEN CARD
- He speaks perfect ENGLISH
- He has ASSIMILATED
- He loves AMERICA
- He is LOYAL to AMERICA
- He did NOT complain, but had only PRAISE for his new homeland

I honor this brave young man the way I would honor any of our brave servicemembers. I would trust him to defend me and my country far more than I would any illegal aliens, or morons like Mister Sanchez or our idiot politicians.

Our MSM people and our politicians are sooooooo STUPID, and I really hate it when they think WE are just as stupid as THEY are! Evil or Very Mad

Morons like Mister Sanchez are the reasons I never watch CNN or other MSM shows.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
barth49
ALIPAC Adept
ALIPAC Adept


Joined: Apr 26, 2005
Posts: 185
Location: Riverside ca.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, I haven't posted in quit awhile...been busy. However, am I the only one that noticed in Lou's intro to "Out In The Open" the utter disdain Lou seemed to have for rick?
I mean I have never seen Lou have that look before. I think Lou realy hates that guy! I'm hoping that Lou has enough "clout" at CNN to have him dumped.
I realy have to ask myself a very important question...why would CNN have that idiot on right after Lou??? I think they are up to something rotten! Maybe they want to see the ratings number drop like a rock after Lou? Or maybe they seem to think that loudmouth can actualy compete with Lou?? I don't realy know...but if anyone else saw it and has any idea why please share your thoughts:)
Thanks.

Rev. Dan
_________________
It's true I am only one, but I am one. And the fact that I can't do everything will not prevent me from doing what I can do

Edward Everett Hale
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
MW
ALIPAC Super Hero
ALIPAC Super Hero


Joined: Jun 01, 2006
Posts: 12473
Location: North Carolina

PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

barth49 wrote:

Quote:
However, am I the only one that noticed in Lou's intro to "Out In The Open" the utter disdain Lou seemed to have for rick?


Nope, you're not the only one to notice that fake smile of Lou's when Sanchez is speaking. Smile

I suspect CNN has forced Lou Dobb's to introduce Rick's show because they are hoping Lou Dobbs viewers will hang around for Rick's show. Me, I turn the channel the minute the Dobbs show is over because I refuse to be counted as a fan of the Sanchez show. Wink
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
butterbean
ALIPAC Super Hero
ALIPAC Super Hero


Joined: Feb 12, 2005
Posts: 10965

PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

YOU SURE WON THAT ONE WILLIAM! Smile

RICK SANCHEZ DOESN'T SEEM TO GRASP THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT AND A LEGAL IMMIGRANT.

WHAT A NUMBSKULL! Rolling Eyes
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
BearFlagRepublic
ALIPAC Super Hero
ALIPAC Super Hero


Joined: Feb 28, 2007
Posts: 2586
Location: San Diego, CA

PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After watching the video again, it is clear that Rick's own video NEVER said that this seviceman was an illegal immigrant. He simply was not a citizen yet, and his citizenship was expidited because of his military service. NOTHING about being an illegal. Rick is playing with the language, calling apples oranges, and confusing the issue and all of his viewers.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
butterbean
ALIPAC Super Hero
ALIPAC Super Hero


Joined: Feb 12, 2005
Posts: 10965

PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BearFlagRepublic wrote:
After watching the video again, it is clear that Rick's own video NEVER said that this seviceman was an illegal immigrant. He simply was not a citizen yet, and his citizenship was expidited because of his military service. NOTHING about being an illegal. Rick is playing with the language, calling apples oranges, and confusing the issue and all of his viewers.


When Rick begins the discussion with William about the "Fast Track", Rick says "we are talking about what you call illegal aliens, that is what the president means". It goes so fast- but thats what I heard.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ScottyDog
ALIPAC Adept 3
ALIPAC Adept 3


Joined: Jul 05, 2005
Posts: 229
Location: Mexifornia

PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I urge all of you to google Rick Sanchez. and you will learn not only is he an ethnocentrist he is a murderer.

He is the son of Cuban Immigrants migrated from Spain in the 1950's and got his first job as an anchor for a Florida Spanish Language channel WCKT. He was the youngest TV anchor ever in Florida at
the age of 22.

On December 10, 1990, Sanchez struck a pedestrian, Jeffrey Smuzinick, with his car on a residential street near Dolphin Stadium. Rick Sanchez fled the scene of the accident, (Hit and Run), police say he left the scene after hitting a man and returned an hour later.

After the accident, Sanchez, 32, drove home to retrieve his driver's license and insurance card.

Rick Sanchez returned to the scene of the accident an hour later and a blood test showed Sanchez had a blood-alcohol level that night of .15 percent.

Prosecutor Kathleen Hoague said;"she thinks Sanchez was driving drunk at the time of the accident, but prosecutors decided not to charge him with causing bodily injury while driving drunk, a third-degree felony".

Jeffrey Smuzinick died after remaining in a coma from the accident with Sanchez on 11-1-1995.

It should not surprise you that Rick Sanchez also is an anchor for the Spanish language version of CNN, CNN en Espanol.

Like Geraldo Rivera, Rick Sanchez has more loyalties to his Hispanic heritage than he has as an American citizen.

He has a vested interest in aiding and abetting illegal immigration as it will boost his ratings at CNN en Espanol.
_________________
Is this Mexico or the USA
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Borders1stNoAmnesty
ALIPAC New Recruit!


Joined: Nov 01, 2007
Posts: 5
Location: Florida

PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 5:05 pm    Post subject: FED UP WITH RICK SANCHEZ!!!!! Reply with quote

We stopped watching RICK SANCHEZ since the first time we saw that he was for the ILLEGAL ALIENS!. What is CNN thinking? we have written letters to CNN to get Rick Sanchez, OFF THE AIR, PERMANENTLY!

And what does CNN do, they move Lou Dobbs to 7:00 p.m. so Lou has to introduce him. Mad Rick Sanchez is Cuban, just like we are, and he should be grateful to this country when we had to leave Cuba and this country received us with open arms, and for us, THIS IS OUR COUNTRY! and we would give our last blood for it. Not everybody feels the same, Rick Sanchez should return to Cuba or go live in Mexico!

And why does Rick Sanchez keep calling them "ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS"! They are NOT "immigrants"
THEY ARE ILLEGAL ALIENS!!!!!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
wodiej
ALIPAC New Recruit!


Joined: Apr 22, 2007
Posts: 5

PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 7:14 pm    Post subject: Sanchez Reply with quote

The way I understood it, Sanchez either lied or didn't know what he was talking about. During the citizenship ceremony I heard the commentator say something about people with a "green card" that serve in the military get their citizenships sped up and the fees waived. That is what they said! I can't believe this Sanchez guy is even considered an anchor-I think they are using him for theatrics-he certainly does not have any real news credentials. And to let him follow the well respected Lou Dobbs?? Oh no, but maybe CNN is using Sanchez to throw some heat off of Lou Dobbs-who knows.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
bjmack
ALIPAC New Recruit!


Joined: Dec 09, 2006
Posts: 9
Location: Myrtle Beach, SC

PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 8:02 pm    Post subject: Rick Sanchez Needs To GEt His Facts Straight Reply with quote

I watched the Video twice and it clearly stated that the Marine had a green card. That means he wasn't an Illegal Alien and Rick Sanchez needs to get his head out and figure out the difference between an Illegal and a Legal Immigrant. And of course when all his other arguments failed him he resorted to using the race card. It's a tactic used by all Pro Illegal groups. Problem is Mr Sanchez, the American People are not buying into this tactic anymore. So move on, you've had your 5 minutes in the limelight and we're not buying what your selling. Your time is up! Rolling Eyes

Mr Gheen you did us all proud. Keep up the good work you are doing on behalf of all Americans !!! Wink

Ron Paul in 2008 !!!!!!!!!!!11
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
CCUSA
ALIPAC Super Hero
ALIPAC Super Hero


Joined: Jun 28, 2006
Posts: 7125
Location: New Jersey

PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome all new ALIPAC members. Very Happy
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    illegal immigration debate Forum Index -> Pictures & Videos of Illegal Immigration All times are GMT - 4 Hours
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next
Page 2 of 3

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum

Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group
Problems, questions, or comments? Please send Feedback to William Gheen at WilliamG@alipac.us


Paid for by Americans for Legal Immigration AMERICANS FOR LEGAL IMMIGRATION PAC
Post Office Box 30966, Raleigh, NC 27622-0966
Tel: (919) 787-6009 Toll Free: (866) 703-0864
FEC ID: C00405878

illegal Immigration Crisis in America! Americans for Legal Immigration fighting against illegal immigration
illegal, immigration, campaigns, Americans, Mexico, Legal, aliens, immigrants, gangs, ALIPAC
Fight Illegal Immigration - Americans for Legal Immigration

Looking for more information about illegal immigration? Check out...

End Illegal Immigration

Americans Against Illegal Immigration

Join ALIPAC on Twitter!

Join ALIPAC on FACEBOOK!

Join ALIPAC on MYSPACE!

Join ALIPAC on YOUTUBE!

Sitemap


Page Generation: 1.17 Seconds