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Americans for Legal Immigration PAC (ALIPAC) released the initial results of their informative poll of Republican voters in Iowa which asked, "Do you support or oppose Mike Huckabee's touchback amnesty plan to allow the illegal aliens to leave the US and return legally in one day?" with initial responses showing GOP voters reject Huckabee's plan by a factor of 6 to 1.
Of the thousands of voters that responded to the automated poll, 65% said they opposed the plan, 25% were undecided, and only 10% supported the plan.
"It is hard to say which reading is more telling," said William Gheen. "The 65% opposition is a devastating result for any campaign, but the 10% support level should send a clear message to Mike Huckabee and Mike Pence about how Americans feel about touchback amnesty."
ALIPAC's William Gheen, Dan Smeriglio of Voice of the People, and Peter Gadiel of 9/11 Families for a Secure America are on the ground in Iowa spreading the word about Huckabee's Dec. 9th comments about letting the illegals return in a day. They are conducting many talk radio interviews, while the phone bank poll continues to contact voters. ALIPAC is considering buying radio ads and launching volunteer phone calls to further warn voters.
"There is absolutely no way that Mike Huckabee can be in the lead in Iowa among Republican voters, unless they are in the dark about his record and stances on immigration issues," says Gheen who is a veteran campaign consultant. "Before our team leaves Iowa, we will have done our best to rectify the situation."
ALIPAC is not endorsing a Presidential candidate and is not financially supported by any rival campaign. True loyalties are to the American public and the group is focused on warning voters that all Democratic candidates and GOP candidates McCain, Guiliani, and Huckabee favor amnesty for illegal aliens.
ALIPAC plans to release updated polling results on Friday, after more Republican households are contacted. The Huckabee campaign is now starting to deny the earlier statement on Fox News as this story breaks in the national press.
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Go William and the rest of TEAM in Iowa!!!! Thank you for all of your hard work!!!!! Thanks for drawing a line in the sand for INTEGRITY!!!!!!!!
Which Huckabee and Gilchrist DO NOT HAVE!!!!!!!!!!!! _________________ Are we going to allow "dirty, crooked politicians" bought and paid for by EVIL men/women to destroy our country...or are AMERICANS GOING TO STAND AS ONE AND TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK?!!!!!!
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 5:53 pm Post subject:
Huckabee got Owned by William ... taking them down.. One by One _________________ I'm a Conservative ~ "BOO" and According to Obama and Napolitano I am (AKA) the "Boogieman"
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 6:22 pm Post subject:
Great job. Forward people, spread the word... make a difference. _________________ "If my family wasn’t safe, what makes you think yours will be?"
-Danielle Bologna (whose husband and sons were murdered by felon, gang member, illegal alien, Salvadoran Edwin Ramos)
If they are going to run ads, they'll need more money. I'm making another contribution today and challenge the rest of you to do the same. Hucklberry the Dingleberry has to be stopped. Every little bit will help.
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 6:26 pm Post subject:
Bostwitz wrote:
If they are going to run ads, they'll need more money. I'm making another contribution today and challenge the rest of you to do the same. Hucklberry the Dingleberry has to be stopped. Every little bit will help.
Right on, Bostwitz! Well said BTW. _________________ "If my family wasn’t safe, what makes you think yours will be?"
-Danielle Bologna (whose husband and sons were murdered by felon, gang member, illegal alien, Salvadoran Edwin Ramos)
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 6:37 pm Post subject: Hucklebee
Thanks again Mr. Gheen. We really appreciate the hard work you're putting into helping us defeat these candidate from blindfolding us on very critical issues regarding illegal immigration.
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 9:19 pm Post subject: DUNCAN HUNTER ....The Only One Candidate Who...
There is only one candidate among the GOP who can effectively get our borders closed...DUNCAN HUNTER! He has proven himself by getting federal money approved to actually BUILD a needed border fence. What's the lag? Michael Chertoff of Homeland Security is the one dragging his feet on this! Mr Hunter's primary issue in his campaign is getting this fence accomplished! Either Americans are not watching the debates or they don't really care. Mr Hunter is the most intelligent choice to lead our country back to being respected again. Check out his other issues and accomplishments at
http://www.gohunter08.com/
I really hope that these candidates are listening. If they think that this will go away they are sadly mistaken. However it could go the way of the fence if we don't keep fighting. I want to know how we will know these candidates will keep their word after they get in office. Promises made promsies broken, by the sneaky congress I am riled. I knew Huckster was a phony but now we have the proof.
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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 12:15 am Post subject:
Boy, I'll tell ya, William and company just plain simply put,
THEY ROCK!
Way to go guys, nice work. Expose the traitors for the liars they are. Great work!
To all of the new recruits:
A big WELCOME to ALIPAC!! _________________ Hey, it doesn't really matter to me, baby, everyone has got to fight to be free. You don't have to live like a refugee!--Tom Petty
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 11:41 am Post subject: But what part of his plan do they disagree with?
I am troubled by statements asserting that a plurality of Citizens oppose the "Huckabee" plan. Primarily, because I am still uncertain whether such statements truly reflect American's sentiments, or whether this is simply some more spin. It's my view, totally unscientific as it is, that America's Citizens are in favor of securing our borders, enforcing our laws, attrition through enforcement, deporting illegal aliens as necessary, and limiting legal immigration to only that which is prudent, necessary, and demonstrably in the best interests of America's Citizens and workers. The Huckabee plan, lacking specificity, doesn't rule any of this out. I do have issues with his past views and actions in Arkansas, and we've all experienced the problems associated with electing former Governor's. Basically, they'll say or do anything to get elected, after that; all bets are off. Simply stating that 65% of a "study" group disagrees with the Huckabee plan, isn't helpful. What aspect of Huckabee's "enumerated 9 point plan" does this study group have problems with? One can assert that because of Huckabee's gubernatorial history of "pandering" in Arkansas, that there is a "trust" issue, but blanket statements that "65% oppose his enumerated plan for dealing with immigration" (my paraphrase) is neither illuminating, nor does it provide insight necessary to allow for a valid "comparison" against the other candidates. Make no mistake, Huckabee is not my first choice anyway, but when ALI-PAC seems to go "out of the way" to indicate that Huckabee isn't anyone's first choice, they need to provide something more substantial than vagues assertions. The MSM have been using misleading statistics to assert that the majority of America's Citizens support some form of "comprehensive immigration reform" or amnesty. We all know that nothing could be farther from the truth, but the vague and nuanced method thet the MSM uses in framing the question serves only their pro-illegal alien agenda. If we are to discount any candidate with a shaky history on immigration, then we should do likewise for all candidates (my personal preference for narrowing the field of candidates). Guiliani, Romney, McCain should all be taken off the playing field if "past pandering" is the criteria. Obviously, given the history of all the Democratic candidates, none of these are worthy of consideration. I cannot support Mr. Huckabee for his past transgressions, nor will I support Rudy, Mitt, or John because they too have transgressed. The Huckabee plan was seemingly crafted based on a 10 point plan circulated for years among the pro-enforcement reformists. Vaguely stating that a majority of some study group or polling scenario opposes the "Huckabee plan" only gives the MSM more fodder for their "majority supports comprehensive reforms and amnesty" assertions. If ALI-PAC truly wants to capitalize on Mr. Huckabee's shortcomings, please clearly define whether it's his 9 point plan, and what point of his plan in particular is problematic, or whether its the broader "trust based issue" of his previous actions. Most would agree that Huckabee doesn't have a prayer of winning the general election (his being an ordained minister virtually rules out this possibility). Indeed, based on my limited "man in the street" research, the only chance that Mitt, John or Rudy will spend any time in the White House depends on whether or not they are invited to Fred Thompson's Inauguration. Is it the "man" or the "plan" that your polling suggests that American's oppose? Let's not through out all 9 points of the plan if only one point is an issue. After all, most who've analyzed the issue would agree that, until Huckabee stepped up and enunciated his 9 point plan, he didn't have much of a chance anywhere. That he was first to stipulate to an "any number of points plan" put him ahead of his rivals. Lose the candidate, not the plan!
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 12:06 pm Post subject: Touch this back
I am chagrined that my own Senator, Kay Bailey Hutchison of Texas, and Mike Pence of Indiana were instrumental in trying to pass "touch back" legislation. I've written and asked that Senator Hutchison step down as our Senator and allow the good people of Texas to elect a representative who will support our views, values and interests. Thus far, she's hanging onto her job, while threatening to run for Governor (She'll never, ever, get re-elected to the Senate). Most recently Senator Hutchison helped pass the egregious legislation reducing the requirements for the border fence, and granting full discretion over where and whether to construct the fence to "appointed bureaucrats" at the DHS. The Huckabee plan for "touch back", although not stipulated in his press release for his "nine point plan", is the result of his comments in interviews and his continued pandering for votes among a certain demographic. Some of the points in the original 9 point plan were workable, pragmatic solutions to the problem, however; as with any politician, Huckabee wasn't content to leave things alone, preferring to "nuance" his way toward a few more voters. The man is not to be trusted!
Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 3:25 am Post subject: Solutions...time for term limits?
I wonder how we solve the immigration problem and many others in our country with the current environment in Washington. I keep coming back to term limits. I have never really believed in them but perhaps this is the only way to get people in Washington who really are there to serve us, the people. It seems even the most well intentioned and honest get sucked in because they like the power and attention and therefore stay for years while quickly losing touch with what we as Americans want. Just food for thought! I am very disturbed and worried about our future as a sovereign country. We may soon be the "Late Great USA".
Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 3:52 am Post subject: Re: Solutions...time for term limits?
American1st wrote:
I wonder how we solve the immigration problem and many others in our country with the current environment in Washington. I keep coming back to term limits. I have never really believed in them but perhaps this is the only way to get people in Washington who really are there to serve us, the people. It seems even the most well intentioned and honest get sucked in because they like the power and attention and therefore stay for years while quickly losing touch with what we as Americans want. Just food for thought! I am very disturbed and worried about our future as a sovereign country. We may soon be the "Late Great USA".
There's already a solution available in place for term limits for congress. It's called an ELECTION. The trick is to send the loudest message that we will no longer accept the status quo from these knuckleheads. Some people seem to think it's the other guy's congressman who needs to be replaced. I personally am not afflicted with that misconception. It is MY congress and Senate incumbents that I will be voting and campaigning to replace. This is the only way we the people will gain representation in Washington. We have this one more chance in this country to do this. If we fail to vote the incumbent traitors out of congress and send the mainstream media also the message that they will not choose our leaders for us any more, then we will deserve what this country is in for.
Most of the presidential candidates that you hear the most about from the television news outlets are members of the Council on Foreign Relations. This is one of the globalist organizations that want to do away with the borders and the soveriegnty of this nation for the sake of the greedy corporations and globalist elitists. So scream it from the rooftop, tell anyone who will listen. Only the existence of our great nation is at stake. Oh, and incidentally, Ron Paul and Duncan Hunter aren't members of the CFR as far as I've been able to find out.
As a sidenote: I'm hearing that fox "news" will not invite Ron Paul to their "campaign candidates forum" to be held I believe on January 6th. What does that tell you? Perhaps he doesn't fit the agenda of their bosses....Just a thought. They will be hearing from me on Monday about their exclusionary tactics to force the election of a member of the CFR.
What more can anyone say than what's been said in this particular discussion group. We all know the problems, and we salute the ALIPAC team and William as heroes and real Americans. This website has become so very sophisticated. Everything is in place, thank God. Now it's the coming elections. Crush Hickabee and the pro amnesty Republicans and then our choice comes down to whose electable: Romeny, Paul, Hunter, etc. As William suggests, let's not tear the viable ones down. For me they're all honerable Americans. Perhaps it's a question of who is the firmest of all. They all seem to be. Maybe it's now a question of the economy. I personally do like Ron Paul's idea of pulling our empire back into a Republic, getting the gold standard back in place as the Euro partially has. However, Romney is a business man.....
Perhaps it's a question of who will prevent Hell-ary from getting into office.
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Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 5:46 pm Post subject:
Hi there centrist. Thanks for the kind words and recognition.
_________________ "If my family wasn’t safe, what makes you think yours will be?"
-Danielle Bologna (whose husband and sons were murdered by felon, gang member, illegal alien, Salvadoran Edwin Ramos)
Huckabee for President National Chairman Ed Rollins will be a guest on C-SPAN's "Washington Journal" at 8 am CT / 9 am ET tomorrow -- Monday, December 31, 2007. Mr. Rollins will discuss the latest campaign developments with Paul Orgel - and then go to the phones.
Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 10:47 am Post subject: The hucksters SCAM-NASTY
The truth about the touch back plan is the fact that huckster went to mexico to lobby a embassy in little rock Ark. An embacy IS a forgien country. The hucks sham is to have the illegals step both feet onto any embassy, thier status is no longer "illegal". This is important becouse of the Constitution's Art.1 sect9 3rd clause "No...ex post facto Law shall be passed". No Law after the fact, as they can not make a legal resident "illegal", they also can not make an "illegal alien" "legal" by legislation. Can you say unConstitutional? So the illegal alien goes to any embassy and says "I am undocumented" for a fee the embassy will issue documents, that makes us all of feel better, yea right. My thoughts on Jim Gilchrist, I have warned him about the scamnasty, I spent 15 cold, dark nites on the border with him, I have the utmost respect for him, that does not mean that he speaks for me, or I vote the way he does,( my family in N.Y. sent over $1000. support to his bid for congress. The fact is the "Touch Back" is to touch back to an embassy and get your status ajusted and step back onto U.S. soil (dirt out side embassy's door) as a "legal'. Facts Are Facts. Read your Constitution and learn how the gov is robbing YOU.
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