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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 11:17 am Post subject: McCain's Immigration Insanity
McCain’s Immigration Insanity
McCain has been campaigning in South Carolina telling everyone that he never really supported amnesty. Previously, McCain and Lieberman were on a PR campaign together in NH and lying through their teeth on McCain's immigration record. At a recent town hall meeting, McCain speaks for a while uttering his gibberish about illegal immigration and the illegal's are god's children (he obviously believes that they are a special type of god’s children and deserve some kind of extra compassion), etc. Lieberman takes the mike and says..."To say John McCain ever supported amnesty for illegal immigrants is a lie..." This is extremely disturbing that both of these Senators would try to deceive and directly lie to people for the express purpose of garnering votes. You can view this for yourself in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Er3gSPhNSEM
McCain is trying to run from his actions and record. He is intentionally distorting (I call it lying) the irrefutable fact that he was a supporter of amnesty by claiming he was never for amnesty. He was a main architect, contributor and proponent of the Comphrensive Immigration Reform bills (s. 1348 and s. 1639) of 2007 that were written in order to grant amnesty to illegal aliens. McCain was so deep into the content and language of these bills that they were often referred to as the Kennedy-McCain Immigration Reform bills.
McCain has consistently supported amnesty for illegal aliens since at least 2003 as reported by hotair.com from a Tuscon Citizen article…“McCain Pushes Amnesty, Guest-Worker Program,” reported the Tucson Citizen of May 29, 2003. The senator is quoted as saying: “Amnesty has to be an important part because there are people who have lived in this country for 20, 30 or 40 years, who have raised children here and pay taxes here and are not citizens. That has to be a component of it.” The newspaper also quoted McCain as saying: “I think we can set up a program where amnesty is extended to a certain number of people who are eligible and at the same time make sure that we have some control over people who come in and out of this country.”
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/05/video-liebs-says-mccain-did-not-support-amnesty-for-illegal-aliens/ http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2007/06/017540.php
An in-depth interview in June 2007 conducted with WBT radio Charlotte, NC illustrates McCain’s lack of knowledge of the details in his own Comprehensive Immigration Reform bill. His arrogance, disdain and condescending attitude to those who disagreed with him on the amnesty issue can also be heard: http://jeffkatz.wbt.com/audio.cfm;jsessionid=2e30fbce04aa6e53e62082817536929611f5TR?ID=7
One day later at the Fox News presidential forum, McCain said, “I have never, ever supported amnesty, and never will”.
During the Fox News presidential debate on January 10, 2008 McCain said: “I know how to secure the borders. I come from a border state where our borders are broken. More people come across our border illegally every year than most any other state. And I will secure the borders first…The remaining 12 million…we must then, in my view, address it in as humane and compassionate way as possible. The three GIs who were missing last year in action, one of them was still missing in action, his wife was about to be deported from this country. I'm not going to deport the wife of a fighting serviceman who's missing in action. I'm going to handle it in a humane, compassionate fashion.” EARTH to McMARS; if you know how to secure the borders, why is your home state’s border still unsecured (McCain has been in Congress for 26 years, the last 22 as a Senator), so much so that more illegals come across your border than anywhere else? What have you been waiting for? Amnesty (again)? Furthermore, what does a GI wife’s situation have to do with the 20 to 36 million illegal aliens here, many of which came across those borders you know how to secure but have done nothing to secure?
http://www.thestate.com/presidential-politics/story/281821.html
It’s readily obvious that McCain hasn’t changed his views on illegal immigration. “Actually, I didn’t change my position…” McCain told Sean Hannity on January 19 right after he was declared the winner of the SC Primary. McCain is constantly saying that conservatives opposed his plan because they didn’t trust the federal government. But that's only partially true. They opposed the amnesty plan because they disagreed with forgiving the crimes of 20 plus million illegal aliens crashing through our borders by giving them amnesty and putting them on a special path to citizenship. Watch the video below carefully on the interview Sean Hannity conducted with McCain right after he was declared the winner in the SC Primary. When Hannity brings up the 'Kennedy-McCain Comp. Immig. Reform' bill, McCain’s arrogance flares as he starts laughing, dismisses the question with the "actually I've never changed my position", babbles about he's from a border state so he knows how to secure the borders (remember he has been in Congress for 26 years and has done nothing); then he quickly moves in another direction to avoid addressing Hannity's question any further.
http://www.redlasso.com/ClipPlayer.aspx?id=07767d08-f30d-4183-9834-1be8e37b45fb
Michelle Malkin sums up his contemptuous nature well. Her recent article states, “His admission of the shamnesty failure is grudging and bitter…For all his supposed newfound enlightenment about what most Americans want—protection against invasion, commitment to the rule of law, meaningful employer sanctions, an end to sanctuary cities, enforcement-by-attrition plus deportation reform, and an end to special illegal alien benefits that invite more law-breaking—The Maverick remains a Geraldo Rivera Republican. Instead of emphasizing the need for local and state cooperation with federal immigration authorities to prevent the release of illegal alien criminals or discussing 100 percent preventable crimes by illegal alien thugs who should never have been on American soil in the first place, McCain harps on open-borders sob stories.”
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/01/23/john-mccain-the-geraldo-rivera-republican/
A new revelation regarding McCain’s presidential campaign is that his “Hispanic Outreach Director”, Juan Hernandez, is the same guy who was a close advisor to Mexico’s President Vicente Fox! Hernandez headed up a Mexican bureaucracy called the “Presidential Office for Mexicans Abroad.” It was designed to allow Hernandez to travel across the U.S., meddling with local, state, and federal immigration enforcement on behalf of millions of illegal aliens in America. ” Hernandez has been quoted as saying, "I never knew the border as a limitation. I'd be delighted if all of us could come and go between these two marvelous countries… There are twenty million people, like myself, who have one foot in Mexico and one foot in the United States, and we're very proud of it… We must not only have a free flow of goods and services, but also start working for a free flow of people.” U.S. born dual citizen Juan Hernandez is very notorious for having said of Mexican Americans on Nightline on June 7, 2001, “I want the third generation, the seventh generation, I want them all to think Mexico first.” Does John McCain agree that they should always “think Mexico first?” With Hernandez as his “Hispanic Outreach Director”, I don’t think there is any question. Is there any reason that anyone should think open borders fanatic Dr. Hernandez wants President McCain to secure the border? Is there any reason that anyone should trust a man to secure the border if he is getting his “Hispanic Outreach” advice from Dr. Juan Hernandez? Is there any reason why anyone should not think that John McCain is committed to giving amnesty to the 20 million illegal aliens in America? http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-100152-.html
Lest we forget or if anyone is unsure as to what the definition of amnesty is, I will provide it below:
AMNESTY, in relation to immigration matters, is legislation to forgive the breaking of immigration laws and to make it possible for illegal aliens to live permanently in the United States. Amnesty represents a system of federal rewards and assistance for illegal aliens, and they entice an even greater number of foreign nationals to illegally enter a country.
AMNESTY:
1. A general pardon for offenses against a government
2. An act of forgiveness for past offenses, esp. to a class of persons as a whole
3. Forgetting or overlooking any past offense
Not only is McCain a supporter of amnesty, he is not fond of any fencing for immigration control or for security reasons. McCain said, “By the way, I think the fence is least effective. But I’ll build the V********V fence if they want it.”[Prisoner of Conscience - Vanity Fair, February 2007: http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2007/02/mccain200702
I suppose McCain has never heard of the 14-mile double-layer fence between San Diego and Tijuana, Mexico. Its benefits in stopping illegal entry into the U.S. were immediate and long lasting. According to a 2005 Congressional Research Service report illegal alien apprehensions along the fence region dropped from 202,000 in 1992 to 9,000 in 2004, a reduction greater than 95% ( http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?Page=/Nation/archive/200712/NAT20071219b.html )
Particularly galling is that December’s omnibus spending bill did not include the appropriations for construction of the double layer 700-mile border fence, which was passed into law just a few months earlier. Additionally, the requirement of a double-layer fence mandated by the Secure Fence Act of 2006 was removed, so if funding is ever restored, a truly effective fence being constructed is unlikely.
I’m sure if McCain was somehow elected President; one of his first official acts would be to take down the fence surrounding the White House…right John? _________________
"If you can't do business legally, then you have no business being in business." -zeezil Anything short of deportation is amnesty.
Last edited by zeezil on Fri Jan 25, 2008 9:16 pm; edited 6 times in total
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 11:28 am Post subject:
Here's the deal. Lieberman wants amnesty cause we are running out of Americans willing to fight in the Mid East to protect Israel. Israel is his number one concern !!
McCain wants amnesty to continue the wars in the Mid East for oil and the tremendous profits going to the corporations investing in the war.
Graham wants amnesty cause he thinks some of those illegals are kind of cute guys.
The question I would like to ask these men is How many is enough to satisfy this need for slave labor. We now have over 300 million people with an estimated 400 million by 2040. We have concerns now about entitlements and spending, our medical system , schools and roads are breaking, what is the number to stop.??
My second question for them would be what do you wish for America, do you see this country like India, Pakistan, Mexico, etc and do you really care.
At a certain point total numbers will certainly end America as we know it quality of life is slipping for many.
Previous years we had set numbers for immigration that appears to have ended. We need controlled limited immigration for this country to remain a world leader.
McCain will say whatever he thinks will help get him elected. He knows well enough how the American people feel. No amnesty. Paying a fine is not going to cut it. People from many countries pay thousands of dollars even to come here the legal way. These illegal aliens are not special, they are invaders. I don't think he'll be elected anyway, but we should keep an eye on his numbers.
Anyone that studied McCains amnesty bill would realize
that most of the fines would be waived or spread out over a
huge amount of time
Also the learn English part? There was no stipulation to
learn English , They only had to enroll or be enrolled in an
English class,
The bills talking points were riddled with holes if you
actually looked at the fine print
When you consider pro amnesty people along with la raza and the
chamber of commerce wrote the bill , It was done in double speak ,
lawyer lingo and not one thing in the bill actually meant what they
tried to tell us it meant
McSlime certainly has a loyal following in the state of New Hampshire but I think it stops there. My understanding is that NH hasn't been affected by illegal immigration as the rest of the nation has, so possibly they are accepting what these obfuscaters and feeding them.
I really feel that things are going to change for this liar after he leaves NH. No one paid much attention but the results in Wyoming are possibly a precursor of things to come. McSlime received NOTHING in Wyoming. Different parts of the state there have had their problems with illegals (Jackson Hole) and they know where McSlime stood on this. They treated him as he deserved. When the primaries shift to the states that are more affected, his lies aren't going to fly and neither will he. Just be patient. _________________ <div>Hmmmm....McCain or Obama, lets see....I think I'll take the bridge!</div><br>
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