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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 11:51 am    Post subject: Fact: Illegal Aliens Fuel Healthcare Crisis In U.S. Reply with quote

Fact: Illegal Aliens Fuel Healthcare Crisis In U.S.
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Tuesday January 22, 2008 at 9:04 am

Richard Wolf, writing for U.S.A. Today ( http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-99589.html ), points to the fast-escalating health care costs in the United States owing to illegal aliens mining the system and arrives at this observation:

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One thing is clear: Undocumented immigrants are driving up the number of people without health insurance. The Pew Hispanic Center estimates that 59% of the nation’s illegal immigrants are uninsured, compared with 25% of legal immigrants and 14% of U.S. citizens. Illegal immigrants represent about 15% of the nation’s 47 million uninsured people — and about 30% of the increase since 1980.


Does it follow then that Democratic candidates vying for their party’s presidential nomination, in trumpeting their respective proposals for federally-sponsored, universal healthcare plans, are speaking largely to the welfare of people they intend to get on their party’s voter rosters via amnesty and a path to citizenship at a future date?

I think so.

One statement made by Richard Wolf that I’m not so sure squares with what we do know about the costs associated with the taxpayer-subsidized healthcare largess enjoyed by border-jumpers and visa over-stayers in this country is this:

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Data on health care costs for illegal immigrants are sketchy because hospitals and community health centers don’t ask about patients’ legal status.


Frank Laughter at Common Sense Junction, for example, published this excerpt from a news story on the impact of medical care for illegals at just one large hospital in Dallas, TX, ( http://www.commonsensejunction.com/archives/3036 ) from which I take the following:

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A recent patient survey indicated that 70 percent of the women who gave birth at Parkland in the first three months of 2006 were illegal immigrants. That’s 11,200 anchor babies born every year just in Dallas.

According to the article, the hospital spent $70.7 million delivering 15,938 babies in 2004 but managed to end up with almost $8 million dollars in surplus funding. Medicaid kicked in $34.5 million, Dallas County taxpayers kicked in $31.3 million and the feds tossed in another $9.5 million.


Understand, Dear Readers, that the $75.3 million expended at Parkland came out of the pockets of American taxpayers and not just those in Dallas County!

Think that may be just an anomaly because Texas is a border state? Think again. Let’s take a look at a major East Coast city — Philadelphia. Here’s a post at Immigration Watchdog ( http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?p=4197 ), quoting from a story published at Philly.com, from which I quote:

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Four city health systems provide care at no cost at Philadelphia health clinics. Undocumented women make up 60% to 65% of the nearly 3,000 prenatal patients treated at the city health clinics annually, Kate Maus, director of Maternal, Child and Family Health at the Philadelphia Department of Public Health, said, adding that eight years ago “all of [the patients] were insured.” Jack Ludmir — chair of obstetrics and gynecology at Pennsylvania Hospital — also noted that the percentage of women in Philadelphia who did not provide a Social Security number after giving birth rose from 4.8% in 2003 to about 7% to 8% this year.


And, crossing over to the West Coast, here’s an excerpt from a piece published at VDARE by Joe Guzzardi ( http://www.vdare.com/guzzardi/health_care.htm ):

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But take a hypothetical “Gloria,” a twenty-year old Los Angeles resident who is seven months pregnant? Like Diaz, Gloria is uninsured, unemployed and illegally in the U.S.

Medi-Cal will cover Gloria’s prenatal care and child delivery costs.

If Gloria doesn’t speak English, the hospital must, by law, provide her with a Spanish-speaking translator.

Gloria’s newborn child will also get car seats and diapers under her Medi-Cal coverage.

In the event of post-partum complications, California will absorb all of the costs.

U.S. taxpayers have spent hundred of millions on patients like Diaz and Gloria. As a consequence, the states are facing a crisis of unparalleled magnitude. As Los Angeles Times columnist Ronald Brownstein wrote in his December 30 column “Health-Care Storm Brewing in California Threatens to Swamp U.S.” ( http://www.cantonrep.com/index.php?Category=14&ID=79568&r=1 ), “the impending Medicaid disaster is not a problem the states can handle alone; their budget shortfalls are too big.”

If you want to reduce the cost of quality health care for U.S. citizens then you cannot provide it to every illegal alien in the country ( http://www.vdare.com/misc/levin_illegals_in_er.htm ).


Does Mr. Guzzardi’s “hypothetical Gloria” bother you? Then let’s look instead at this column published at WorldNetDaily ( http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=43275 ), from which I excerpt the following:

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Cristobal Silverio emigrated illegally from Mexico to Stockton, Calif., in 1997 to work as a fruit picker.

He brought with him his wife, Felipa, and three children, 19, 12 and 8 – all illegals. When Felipa gave birth to her fourth child, daughter Flor, the family had what is referred to as an “anchor baby” – an American citizen by birth who provided the entire Silverio clan a ticket to remain in the U.S. permanently.

But Flor was born premature, spent three months in the neonatal incubator and cost the San Joaquin Hospital more than $300,000. Meanwhile, oldest daughter Lourdes married an illegal alien gave birth to a daughter, too. Her name is Esmeralda. And Felipa had yet another child, Cristian.

The two Silverio anchor babies generate $1,000 per month in public welfare funding for the family. Flor gets $600 a month for asthma. Healthy Cristian gets $400. While the Silverios earned $18,000 last year picking fruit, they picked up another $12,000 for their two “anchor babies.”

While President Bush says the U.S. needs more “cheap labor” from south of the border to do jobs Americans aren’t willing to do, the case of the Silverios shows there are indeed uncalculated costs involved in the importation of such labor – public support and uninsured medical costs.


And, as AHN reports today ( http://www.alipac.us/ftopicp-593205.html#593205 ):

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As the federal government unveiled an economic package designed to pump prime the U.S. economy, the cost of providing economic relief to millions of Americans includes dealing with expensive health care. Like other issues concerning illegal migration, the inclusion of illegal migrants in health care benefits is the subject of hot debates across the nation.


And rightfully so. And we need to derail this runaway freight train, rather than to add more cars and locomotives to it, as the Democratic Party would have us do. As the Dallas Morning News points out this morning ( http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/healthscience/stories/DN-MedCampaign_22bus.ART0.State.Edition2.376b7f7.html ):

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Democrats’ stump speeches talk of covering all Americans but so far have avoided the politically explosive issue of whether to treat the 12 million illegal immigrants living in the U.S.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I watched the Democratic Debates last night although I am not a Democrat. I was just curious. Hillery yelled at one point, "And I will not leave 15 million people" out of it or uninsured, or whatever she said. This statement was not targeted for further discussion. I could only wonder if the 15 million she was referring to were illegal aliens.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well the one question she answered on illegal immigration was when Wolf asked her if illegals were covered under her health care plan her answer was NO...so much for a dicussion on illegal immigration, how pathetic is that!!! Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SOSADFORUS wrote:
Well the one question she answered on illegal immigration was when Wolf asked her if illegals were covered under her health care plan her answer was NO...so much for a dicussion on illegal immigration, how pathetic is that!!! Evil or Very Mad
Keep in mind that is only temporarily correct. ALL the Dems plan on pushing through "Comprehensive Immigration Reform" (amnesty) so all those IAs will soon become citizens (if the Dems have their way) and be covered!

See related post on the Dem debate:
http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-99659.html
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

zeezil wrote:
SOSADFORUS wrote:
Well the one question she answered on illegal immigration was when Wolf asked her if illegals were covered under her health care plan her answer was NO...so much for a dicussion on illegal immigration, how pathetic is that!!! Evil or Very Mad
Keep in mind that is only temporarily correct. ALL the Dems plan on pushing through "Comprehensive Immigration Reform" (amnesty) so all those IAs will soon become citizens (if the Dems have their way) and be covered!

See related post on the Dem debate:
http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-99659.html


Oh how well I know (Basically said by Edwards) and then we get to pay for 38 million more ! I am so excited I can not stand it, infact I have needed a blood pressure pill ever since the debate last night.....Where are Americans? Evil or Very Mad
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