Don't have an account yet? You can create one. As a registered user you have some advantages like theme manager, comments configuration and post comments with your name.
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2009 2:59 pm Post subject: Merry Christmas from ALIPAC
Friends of ALIPAC,
All of us here at Americans for Legal Immigration PAC want to wish you and your families a very merry Christmas!
We've fought very hard this year and owe so many of you a great deal of gratitude for your support and efforts.
This Christmas is proving to be a very tough time for many of you due to the bad economy, poor health, and the crazy things going on in Washington.
Our prayers go out to all of you who are struggling and facing hard times this year. We'll all be saying a prayer for you and our country.
Christmas is a time when we are reminded of miracles, the promise of goodness and hope in dark times and tough trials. It is a time when we remember the spirit and faith that has guided us to the place in history we are today.
With our celebration of the birth of Jesus Christ, we can all think back to the hardships Joseph and Mary faced traveling so far to Bethlehem to pay a heavy tax to the government. Can our modern minds truly fathom natural childbirth in a manger full of livestock?
At the rigged N.C. Community College meeting on December 18, the local head of the NAACP, William Barber, had the audacity to compare illegal immigration with the story of Joseph and Mary. He thought it would be politically advantageous to compare the treatment of Joseph and Mary with America's treatment of illegal aliens. He even claimed that Joseph and Mary were turned away from the inn, not because it was full due to people traveling to Bethlehem for the Census and tax, but because the inn was closed to "certain kinds of people."
This Christmas season, my memories are stained with the mockery of the nativity offered by this Jesse Jackson wannabe as an attack on the vast majority of Americans who oppose illegal immigration.
To hear William Barber tell the nativity story, Joseph and Mary were like black civil rights protesters trying to find a room at a whites-only hotel in Alabama in 1940, abused by evil white people!
Here is a black American who is so heavy from excessive calories he can hardly stand, adorned with a doctorate degree, in the midst of the most racially-tolerant and diverse civilization to exist in all of human history, and is using the birth of Jesus Christ to attack "Americans".
From the context of Reverend Barber's pro-illegal immigration speech, one thing was perfectly clear and that was his use of the word America and Americans to mean white Americans of European ancestry.
Barber crowed to the audience of young illegal alien supporters, since Mexico ended slavery "long before America" that America needed to be careful about whom she called illegal!
Here's a holiday fact check for Mr. Barber and his race-card abusing ilk.
Mexico ended slavery about 12 years before America. For a brief time, American slaves would sometimes try to flee to Mexico. Mexico had about as many black slaves as America had!
The major difference is that one hundred and fifty-plus years later blacks make up 12.5% of the American population and have the highest standard of living levels of any black populations on the earth.
In Mexico, the black population has faced slow genocide and extreme racism that continues full force today. They now make up less than 1% of the population of Mexico. Of course that is an estimate, since the Mexican government refused to acknowledge the existence of or count black Mexicans in the Census.
Products on Mexican grocery store shelves have caricatures of black's like MM Penguin that would make Al Jolson file a lawsuit!
Mexican racism is alive and well with a TV show called "La Escuelita VIP" or 'the little school VIP' that's produced by Galavision, a subsidiary of Televisa, the media giant that controls most of Mexican television and is the biggest provider of programs to U.S. TV channels Univision and Telemundo. Black actors are called monkeys along with other racial epitaphs. Not surprisingly, the ADL and SPLC are silent on these issues.
Perhaps Dr. Barber should go visit the forlorn territories that blacks still occupy in Mexico and direct his civil rights attentions there? Better yet, I'll make him an open offer right now to book him a hotel room in or near the ethnic-cleansing zones in Los Angeles where blacks are executed for entering neighborhoods designated for Hispanics only by the Mexican Mafia and their enforcers like the MS-13 gang.
Our illegal immigration fighting leaders, like Terry Anderson and Ted Hayes in South Central Los Angeles, could educate William Barber on where the real racism exists in America today that is being fueled by rampant illegal immigration.
Perhaps William Barber could visit the grave of Jamiel Shaw Jr., 17, who was gunned down by 19-year-old illegal alien Pedro Espinoza, a 18th Street gang member who had been in and out of jail without deportation beforehand. Shaw was shot for the color of his skin.
So was little 14-year-old Cheryl Green. This little black girl crossed the street to say something to friends, not realizing she had crossed an invisible line into one of the ethnic-cleansing zones, which is why the illegal alien-importing Latino gang found her house and shot her down in her own yard.
These few examples are but two of a list I could write about for hours on end.
Most of the California prisons are now segregated by race, due to repeated riots and massive race-based attacks on black inmates coordinated by the illegal alien- and drug-importing Mexican cartels. Many California schools have experienced similar massive racially motivated violence.
While the old KKK has few adherents left in America and proves to be lethal once or twice each decade, the illegal aliens and their supporting cartels are murdering black Americans on an almost weekly basis from what we can tell from the information we are receiving from across the nation.
And who is it in America that is speaking out against these crimes and injustices? Is it the Southern Poverty Lie Center or the (Anti) Defamation League. No, it is groups like ALIPAC that stood in the room on December 18 to speak against benefits for illegal aliens, not people like Dr. William Barber who would even stoop to using the Christmas holiday and sacred story of the nativity to advance the cause of mass lawlessness fueled by hatred and animosity towards Anglo-Americans.
If the Reverend Barbers of the world are looking for guidance in the Bible for dealing with illegal immigration, then look no further than the ten commandments. Commandments 8-10 are likely grouped together for a reason as all apply to illegal immigration.
EIGHT, "You shall not steal.'
NINE: 'You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.'
TEN: 'You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor's.'
Reverend William Barber of the N.C. NAACP was wrong to use the story of Jesus's birth to bash Americans. He is out of line with black Americans, as well as the majority of whites and Hispanics in America.
This Christmas, regardless of our different races and religious backgrounds, or our political party of choice, let's all remember that we are Americans and that only a healthy dose of the truth is going to save this country.
Regardless of our differences, our principles, morals, and values unite us.
We all need a few days of time to take a break from these noble endeavors. Next year will be our greatest challenge yet!
Merry Christmas to my fellow ALIPACer's and Americans.
We have come a long way in this nation, but we have also stepped away from common sense and sanity, where we allow rampant criminal behavior, flaunting of our laws and we stand to lose all that our ancestors worked so hard to achieve. Let's all make a commitment to band together and stop this insanity of turning a blind eye to illegal immigration.
After almost five years of being with this, I plan to stay. I cannot stop till we have voted in the right people, who will do the job of securing our borders and enforcing our laws (immigration and work place enforcement) and keep from allowing millions of law breakers to gain unfettered access to something they do not deserve to be simply given, amnesty. _________________ “In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, Brave, Hated, and Scorned. When his cause succeeds however,the timid join him, For then it costs nothing to be a Patriot.” ~Mark Twain~
Merry Christmas to everyone. We will have a lot to do to make sure our future generations are handed the best present of all -- a sovereign country. There's still a lot of work to do. _________________ Immigration is not a right that belongs to anybody and everybody who wants to come here. It is a privilege we Americans alone decide to convey. - Patrick J. Buchanan
Ditto that. ALso, thanks for bringing to light about Blacks being in mexico. I had never given it any thought before. I guess because I didnt know. But now I do and this gives even more reason to start waking people up to the racisim that exists down there and gets brought up here. Just another of mexico's many "gifts". _________________ It's immoral to vote for any candidate who is not going to uphold the fundamental tenets of our Constitution.
Joined: Oct 26, 2009 Posts: 83 Location: Southern California
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2009 5:46 pm Post subject: How Twisted Is The Branch of Unreason
I once heard that: "A Lock only keeps out an honest person." This relates to so much that is happening in America today. We have a difficult year coming up in 2010 because President Obama has made immigration one of hit top hit-list items. There are a lot of votes for the Democratic party in illegals. Every 10 or 15 years we allow another 10 or 12 million to turn from illegals to legals. Of course the vote for the Democratic Party agenda. After watching what has transpired in Washington D.C. these past months I realize how corrupt the political system is and that truly America is at war from the Left, only instead of bullets, they use power and laws to overcome.
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2009 9:23 pm Post subject: NO AMNESTY
I just can't believe that illegal immigration is even an issue. What part of illegal doesn't Luis Guiterez (Rep) understand??? This year we all must unite and fight this propblem. As a conservative hispanic this is an outrage. Let's end illegal immigration this year. VOTE REPUBLICAN!!! NO AMNESTY. It's not fair for people like my parents who came here legally in the US....it sucks!!!
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2009 9:34 pm Post subject: Memim Penguin and Racial Relations
William Barber, The NAACP, The Black Caucus, and their liberal breathren have all sold us Black communities down the river. The "list of shame and sedition" is long and distinguished.
It was another derogatory comment from another arrogant “I’m above Blacks” president of a country dependent on the United States, putting down Black Americans. First, two Japanese Prime Ministers called Blacks inferior. The first time, we protested. The second time, we protested again. We demanded that they apologise. They balked, but after pressure from American officials, they eventually did.
It’s back to business as usual.
Vincente Fox, former president of Mexico (a country where Blacks are still regarded and treated like slaves), joined the bandwagon by insulting Black Americans. It was a familiar scenario. Mr. Fox made his statement, refused to rescind it, but after pressure from U.S. government officials, finally decided to offer a luke warm apology by calling on Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton to express remorse about his statement.
Fox made the comment during a meeting with Texas businessmen in Puerto Vallarta, Mexico when he said, “There’s no doubt that Mexican men and women – full of dignity, willpower, and a capacity for work – are doing the work that not even Blacks want to do in the United States.” Vincente Fox meant to imply here, is that Blacks in America are not “full of dignity, willpower, and a capacity for work,” hence Mexicans (illegally invading the country have all these attributes), are doing their work.
When the controversy about his statement surfaced, Vincente Fox defended his statement saying he had nothing to apologise about.
The Archbishop of Mexico City was quoted as saying that Fox was merely stating the fact.
Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, demanded apology from Fox. Jackson was quoted as saying, about Fox, “His statement has the impact of being inciting and divisive,” and was said to have noted the tensions already existing between Blacks and Latinos in many U.S. cities because of unfair wage competition for jobs, and have their children crowded into underfunded schools.
Al Sharpton is quoted to have said that the comment was especially disturbing, because Fox was educated in the United States.
“He is not unaware of the racial sensitivities here?”
Go through any American city. The unspoken truth is that Mexicans have gotten jobs that used to be available to Black Americans.
From Los Angeles to New York City, Mexicans have lowered the wage standards, and dominate the construction industry. You name it, they are there. In restaurants, you don’t see Blacks employed as waiters or waitresses anymore. Go through urban areas. You need a carpenter, an electrician, a mechanic, or a gardener, who do you call?
The question really is, what is the essence of this apology? Do Black Americans need another empty apology from another fool?
Especially one who does not know his heritage is part African. Should Black Americans get even? Has the apology solved the substance of what Mr. Fox (some say) rightly articulated? Should we be dealing with the truth instead.
In July of 2005, Memín Penguin, a Black Mexican comic book character who resembles Curious George, or even a stereotypical Black Sambo, was celebrated with a postage stamp in his honor. The stamp was well received by many sectors of the Mexican public, representing a fond image of childhood. But the stamp’s image offended Black Americans in the United States, and a wide segment of the International community, since it smacked of discrimination. The stamp’s release came only months after Mexican President Vicente Fox made disturbing public remarks that Mexican immigrants to the United States take jobs “that not even blacks want to do.” The public attention that both episodes garnered on each side of the border reveals interesting new dimensions of the ongoing, shifting saga of race relations. For the first time, within the context of high-level forums, Mexican images of blackness were pitted against those of Black Americans. Notably, the ways that Mexicans of African descent might have responded to these episodes did not appear to be part of the public relations considerations. Our extensive ethnographic field-work in Afro-Mexican communities over the past decade affords us an additional vantage from which to analyze the unfolding of these racially charged events.
The ideas and actions behind the discourse and debate signal important differences and dynamics. On the one hand, President Fox said what was perhaps on the minds of many Mexicans, legal and illegal aliens alike. From his point of view, Blackness served as a form of class marker. By invoking the notion that all Mexican illegal immigrants “occupied” a space that, within the structure of the United States’ hierarchical system of social relations was traditionally held by Blacks, Fox compared Mexican illegal immigrants at the lowest rung of the social ladder. However, in perceiving race as being analogous to class, Fox made an error—essentially miscalculating the trajectory of race relations in the United States. One reason why Blacks demanded an apology, and were offended by his remarks is the Civil Rights Movement and subsequent gains for equality have marked significant strides in helping Blacks move beyond the freeze-frame, lower-class stereotypes held by invocations of Blackness. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton traveled to Mexico to help bring the leader up to speed on Black American progress and diversity. Knowingly, Fox turned back the clock on Black American history with his remarks, even though he was commenting about the plight of illegal aliens.
Fox stalled before issuing an apology. Part of the delay may have come from political posturing. The Mexican leader did not want to appear malleable to U.S. whims (the same kind of mindset did not offer condolences to the US after the attacks Sept. 11, 2001).
On the other hand, the delay was due to infer the belief that his remarks were innocent, with little wide-reaching effect. The stalling did not play out well in the Mexican press, and numerous headlines and political cartoons were released on the issue.
The seemingly small affair began mushrooming into something greater. It is important to note that as events continued to unfold, the debates about Fox’s comments also sparked an internal, national conversation about race in Mexico that called into question the nation’s race credentials. The conventional wisdom of mestizaje asserts that because racial mixture is an inherent feature of national life, those who live within “racial democracies” such as Mexico are usually vigilant against racism. Fox seemingly broke the principles of this idea with his comments.
Opportunists, critical of Fox’s leadership, took the incident as a chance to expose his shortcomings of leadership, even to the point of labeling him a racist both against Blacks and the very Mexican illegal immigrants he was trying to defend. Salvos like these were launched from politicians in the PRI and the PRD, the two major opposition parties in Mexico. But there were others, less fettered by the political jockeying, who probed for deeper meaning from the event. In fact, on the airwaves and in the newspapers, a public space was opened to critically examine Mexico’s own Blackness. After all, African heritage is a part of Mexico. How can that fact be disregarded?
A few articles appeared on Afro-Mexicans living in the Costa Chica (an area renowned for its Black Mexican heritage and presence), as well as essays reflecting on why Mexico has been so reluctant to acknowledge its own African heritage. Recent struggles by politicians to obtain communal rights for Afro-Mexicans (based on claims to ethnic status) were also featured in the press, particularly the activities of Angel Heladio Aguirre Rivero, the ex-governor of the state of Guerrero (1996-1997).
In many ways, numerous aspects of the rich discussions were short lived. With the issuance of the commemorative Memín Penuin stamp, negative U.S. responses toward the comic book image inspired some Mexicans to revert to defensive attitudes and posturing with respect to their outlook on race. According to several commentators, academics, and observers, particularly within Mexico City, the caricature should not have been understood as a racialized figure, but a cultural emblem. Created in the 1940s by Yolanda Vargas, the comic book proved instrumental in the literacy campaigns of mid-century. Thematically, it was a risk taker, addressing subjects such as interracial family dynamics and class disparity, but always from a humorous perspective (at least in the eyes of some Mexicans). It quickly became a success, running new storylines into the early 1970s. Although repeat issues with freshly designed cover art can still be found on the streets of Mexico today, large numbers of Mexicans fondly remember Memín as an image of their childhood (while dismissing their African ancestry). On this score, shortly after the stamp was released, many pleaded for the United States to consider the broader context of the image and its production, as well as its storylines, rather than simply rushing to interpret and chastise Memín’s physical features.
Several advisors and ministers close to President Fox conceived that it might be wise to invite Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton down to Mexico for another visit, this time so that they might be able to bring these civil rights leaders up to speed on the nuances of racial sensitivities. Memín had come to demonstrate what many Mexicans had always feared about the influence of ideas from the North—a desire to over-analyze situations for racially charged themes.
A number of critical themes can be detected in the subtext of the Memín episode and the Vicente Fox comments. First, Mexican historian Miguel León-Portilla wondered, why was it that the media and others were intentionally undermining the relationship between Black Americans and Mexicans? The question is an excellent one, with significant trans-border implications. As we have seen in our research, the relationships between Black Americans and Mexicans can be sometimes marked by suspicion and tension. The high profile given to the “racist” tendencies of Fox, and the history of discriminatory caricature that the Memín image invoked, and the racist conjecture of the Mexican people has arguably not smoothed over these relations. Secondly, both episodes call attention to the new landscape of cultural politics emerging in the United States.
As the border becomes more permeable and as illegal Mexicans continue to overly increase their demographic presence, there will be many incidents like the Memín controversy. Illegal Mexicans coming to the U.S. are bringing with them different attitudes towards race and Blackness that is not the same as ours. Meanwhile, the United States will insist upon conformity to a multi-cultural sensitivity that may seem strange to Mexicans. This insistence upon conformity tends (unintentionally or not) to permeate politics within Mexico. Interestingly, the change in political regimes in Mexico, from the PRI (which held presidential power continuously from the 1920s until 2000) to the PAN, provided a historical break in Mexican political culture, and quite possibly an opportunity to facilitate wide changes in racial thinking. And as witnessed in 2005, Mexican politicians played the race card against Fox.
Will this translate into a new form of multi-cultural politics, one that evaluates a Mexican politician’s success on his/her ability to maneuver successfully within the international scene of racial diplomacy?
One of the key, under-publicized issues regarding the Memín/Fox episodes is how they unfolded in the Costa Chica, and to what extent they have influenced Afro-Mexican perceptions of Blackness. Arguably, the results of the affair were most impactful symbolically—gesturing towards ideas of Blackness rather than affecting the reality of lived conditions. While Memín’s image and Fox’s words certainly had real transnational effects in political circles (and in shaping attitudes among Black Americans towards Mexicans), at the same time their impact may have rung hollow in the everyday experiences of Afro-Mexicans and their families in Mexico.
Indeed, in the Costa Chica during the summer of 2005, Fox’s comments and the Memín controversy received little attention and were not being widely discussed. Carlos, a self-described moreno, didn’t feel personally offended by the image, but could see how Blacks in the United States might not like it since, as he saw it, the character is supposed to be a depiction of an Black American (un negro de allá), and not a Mexican! While many Afro-Mexicans expressed an understanding of their own racialized marginalization, they do not read images of Memin as speaking to that marginalization. Being caricatured in cartoon or other mass media images is not a form of racism with which Afro-Mexicans have much experience (which is strange considering the Olmec people (Africans) were the first in what is now Mexico).
Afro-Mexican activists in the region, however, responded much more strongly and condemned the Memín stamp project. Representatives from Mexico Negro called for the withdrawal of the stamp and published an open letter to the President. These Black leaders see the Memín controversy as a kind of blind spot in Mexico and one leader with whom we spoke informally mentioned that it probably never occurred to the government to ask any Afro-Mexican leaders what they thought, before they introduced the stamp. These dissenting voices among Afro-Mexican leaders contrasted markedly with examples of an embrace of Memín as a symbol of nationalist pride. If you go through Mexico City, you’d glimpse at large billboards prominently situated along a major freeway. The signs feature the image of Memín, along with the words “Are you talking about me?” and “100% Mexicano.” In addition, the noted Mexican historian Enrique Krauze, in a Washington Post column, appears to count himself among those Mexicans who see Memín not as racist, but as “a highly pleasing image rooted in Mexican popular culture.”
While the heated events of race are playing themselves out transnationally in nearly all U.S. cities, Mexico City, the Costa Chica, and elsewhere in Mexico, at the same time, there are macro-level changes and shifts in racial discourse that are equally transnational, and that are in a constant state of re-invention. While it is still too early to tell where these processes are headed, we can certainly surmise that the changes they bring about will impact racial formation processes on both sides of the border. In the United States, Blackness as a category seems poised to become stretched—inclusively bearing within it the histories and experiences of blacks throughout the greater diaspora. To some degree, this process seems inevitable, given the overwhelming flow of illegal aliens into the country. But if diasporic Blackness is to configure into the conceptualizations of Blackness in the United States, a certain amount of racial consciousness is needed from the Black immigrants themselves. Specifically in the case of Black Mexicans, this is precisely where the power of macro-level racial discourses may prove to be a contributing factor. The Memín/Fox episodes, despite being as sinuous, complex, and problematic as they were, at the very least sensitized broad sectors of the population on both sides of the border to Mexican Blackness and Mexican debates on Blackness, and Mexican ignorance to its Black origins. In this fashion, the episodes may have set the stage for possible convergence of racial histories.
Black Americans don’t need an apology from Vincente Fox, or representatives such as William Barber, The NAACP, The Black Caucus, Jesse Jackson, or Al Sharpton: what we need are solid methods, and the will to provide the solutions to the conundrum raised in this commentary. We need to switch gears, step to the plate, and provide the re-training necessary for Blacks to start taking back the jobs that even criminal illegal aliens from Mexico will do.
Thank you, fretsward. We are continually being cleaved as a country by forces inside and out, when the only important question should be "are you a citizen or here legally?"
Race is such a diversion from the attempt to get this country back on track, and these days it seems that those here illegally and their supporters are screaming "race" at their first breath. And Hispanic is not a race. _________________ Immigration is not a right that belongs to anybody and everybody who wants to come here. It is a privilege we Americans alone decide to convey. - Patrick J. Buchanan
WE WILL FACE A NEW YEAR WITH MANY CHALLENGES . WE WILL NEED MUCH SUPPORT AND GOOD WILL BY ALL TO FIGHT MUCH CORRUPTION FROM THE DEMOCRATICT PARTY . A GOOD NUMBER OF U S SENATORS , CONGRESS AND STATE LEGESLATORS ... OUR NOT FOR THE GOOD FOR AMERICANS FOR THEY OUR CAUGHT UP IN LOBBYIST , SPECIAL IMTEREST AND BIG MONEY WHICH HAVE OVER 30 YEARS HAVE MOVED MOST OF GOOD AMERICAN JOBS AND AMERICAN COMPANYS OVER SEAS AND MUCH OF CORRUPTION IN AMERICA COME FROM CITYS WHERE CRIME IS AT ITS HIGHEST.
MOST AMERICANS OUR NOT EDUCATED TO THE TRUTH OF THE FACTS AND SOME YOU CAN NOT REASON WITH WHEN YOU PRESENT THEM WITH THE TRUTH AND THE FACTS .. SO HAVE PATIENTS .. GOD WILL OVER COME AND EVIL WILL BE DESTROYED.
2010 ALL OF CONGRESS WILL BE UP FOR ELECTION .. AND 1/3 OF THE
U S SENATE .. WE NEED TO MAKE A STAND AND NOW IS THE TIME TO MAKE THE SELECTION .. AMERICANS WANT THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE NOT THE WILL OF LEGESLATORS WHO DEFF EARS AND HANDS OUT TO LOBBYIST AND SPECIAL INTEREST AND FOREIGN CONCERNS THIS TO ME IS ALL CORRUPTION .. SELL OF AMERICA AND AMERICANS INTO SLAVERY .. OBAMA AND PELOSI AMERICA IS NOT THE AMERICANS AMERICA .. WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO OUR DEMOCRACY ?
GOOD BLESS AMERICANS AND OUR TROOPS AND A SAFE RETURN AND A GREAT NEW YEAR FOR REAL CHANGE AND RID OUR SELFS FROM THIS CORRUPT GROUP OF POLITICAL LEGISLATORS.
Everyone have a Merry Christmas.
Thank you ALIPAC for all the hard work you do.
Let us all gear up for Jan. 2nd for the next stage of the fight against the illegal invasion of our Nation.
One of the 10 Commandments is Thou shall not covet thy neighbors ox, wife, house, etc.. These invaders are coveting our House.
You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum
Contribute/Join
Forum FAQ
Search
Usergroups
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
