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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 9:03 am    Post subject: What McCain Means Reply with quote

What McCain Means
By Patrick J. Buchanan
Friday, January 25, 2008

In 2004, the voters of Arizona, by 56 percent to 44 percent, enacted Proposition 200, requiring proof of citizenship before an individual may vote or receive state benefits. Forty-six percent of Hispanics voted for Prop. 200, giving the lie to those who say Hispanics support the illegal invasion of their country. Over 190,000 Arizonans petitioned to put Prop. 200 on the ballot. As it simply required proof of citizenship before receiving the benefits and privileges of citizenship, who could oppose it?

Answer: the entire GOP congressional delegation, led by Sen. John McCain. This is the same John McCain who battled the border fence and colluded with Teddy Kennedy on the amnesty bill rejected by Congress last year after a national uproar. Bottom line: If the presidential race is between Hillary and Amnesty John, the border security battle is over and lost. As Laura Ingraham asks, "If Congress passes McCain-Kennedy in 2009, would President McCain sign it?"

For conservatives, the stakes could not be higher. For on the great controversies, McCain has sided as often with the Democrats and the Big Media that pay him court as with conservatives. Where President Bush has been bravest, on taxes and judges, McCain has been his nemesis. Not only did McCain vote against the Bush tax cuts twice, he colluded to sell out the most conservative of the Bush nominees to the courts. In 1993, McCain voted to confirm ACLU liberal and pro-abortion Ruth Bader Ginsburg. But when Bush set out to restore constitutionalism, McCain colluded with Democrats who wanted to retain power to kill Bush's most conservative nominees.

McCain helped form the Gang of 14, including seven Democrats, who agreed to block a GOP Senate from using the "nuclear option" -- allowing a simple GOP majority to break a Democrat filibuster of judicial nominees -- unless the seven Democrats approved. McCain thus conspired with liberals to put at risk the most courageous conservatives nominees of President Bush. With his record of voting for liberal justices Ginsburg and Stephen Breyer, and of colluding with Democrats in their campaign to kill the most conservative Bush nominees, what guarantee is there a President McCain will nominate and fight for the fifth jurist who would vote to overturn Roe v. Wade?

In the battle over campaign finance reform, McCain colluded again. The McCain-Feingold law denies to gun folks and right-to-lifers their basic First Amendment right to name friends and foes in ads run before elections. As for the policies that have transparently failed Bush and the nation, McCain remains an obdurate advocate. After America has run five straight record trade deficits that have denuded the nation of thousands of factories and 3 million manufacturing jobs, McCain is still babbling on about Smoot-Hawley. "When you study history, every time we've adopted protectionism, we've paid a very heavy price," McCain told a Detroit paper after informing Michiganders their auto jobs are never coming back. But what history is John McCain talking about? Was the Tariff of 1816, which saved infant U.S. industries from the malicious dumping by British merchants after the War of 1812, a failure? Were Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, John Calhoun and Henry Clay fools to support President Madison's tariff? From Abraham Lincoln through Calvin Coolidge, the Republican Party -- the Party of Protection -- put 12 presidents in the White House to two for the Democrats, and the United States became the mightiest industrial power in history, producing 42 percent of the world's manufactured goods. This is failure -- while Bush free trade is a success? Tell it to Ohio. Even Hillary Clinton, whose husband enacted NAFTA with McCain's support, has begun to question the NAFTA paradigm. Not McCain.

Where Dwight Eisenhower and Richard Nixon came to office determined to extricate the nation with honor from a war whose costs had begun to outweigh any benefit, McCain is talking about spending 50 or 100 years in Iraq. Where Bush, by moving NATO onto Russia's doorstep, planting bases in Central Asia and intervening in the affairs of Russia's neighbors, has undone the work of Reagan in making Russia a friend, he sounds like George McGovern alongside the braying McCain, who can't wait to get into Vladimir Putin's face.

Where Bush finally cleansed his administration of neocons, if not of their legacy, a McCain candidacy is the last, best hope of a neocon restoration and new military adventures in the Middle East. If Rudy Giuliani founders in Florida, neocons will be chanting, "Mac is back!"

The three issues that ruined the Bush presidency are this misbegotten war in Iraq, the failure to secure America's borders from invasion and a mindless trade policy that has destroyed the dollar and left foreigners with $5 trillion to buy up America at fire-sale prices. McCain remains an unthinking advocate of all three. But where Bush was at his best, on taxes and judges, McCain was collaborating with Hillary. The question conservatives may face if McCain is nominated is not whom should I vote for, but should I vote.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Watched Mccain last night on clip from sunday and he still refuses to call his failed plan amnesty.He also will not use the word 'border fence' which is very disturbing.He continues to talk about 'vehicle barriers' which are about 3 feet high and have space between them that people can walk through.There is a video on utube that shows how easy illegals have put up ramps and simply drive over the"joke vehicle barriers".Mcain has no intention of enforcing the border.If he does get the nomination in november , he will find out what dumb republican politicians found out in california 20 years ago.Hispanics in california do not vote republican because they dont respect anyone who kisses butt and gives thier country away.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

McCain is talking about spending 50 or 100 years in Iraq.


This is why McCain will never get elected. Americans don't want to be in Iraq another five or ten years. Not even another five to ten months. I predict Americans will give the Democrats a landslide victory. It will be a clear mandate to get out of Iraq.

All other politics will take a back seat, except for a worsening economy.

All other political battles will need to be fought issue by issue.

Immigration is NOT going to trump the Iraq war.

We will have fours years of Democratic WH & Congress. Then they will be tossed out.

We REALLY need to concentrate on the election of Senators and Congressmen that oppose illegal immigration. The WH will be owned by a non war candidate that promises a change. Even a President with a mandate can't sign legislation he can't get passed. The key for us is Congress. I fear the WH is lost.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:28 pm    Post subject: McBrain Reply with quote

McCain represents the epitome of the utterly corrupt and compromised, entrenched elite political class who views the average law abiding, taxpaying American citizen with contempt and no more than the dirt beneath their feet. This creep has been deeply submerged in the diseased environment of the Washington beltway for decades and is as out of touch and warped himself as the sick and twisted policies he supports. People like McCain, Bush, and every one of the Democrats running for President don't view Americans as a free and independent sovereign people, but a mass of common humanity they can do whatever they wish to even if it involves shredding the very Constitution they swore to uphold and defend.

Pat Buchanan in the final analysis turned out to be right about everything he said about open borders, illegal immigration, globalism, "free trade", and the march of America and the Republican Party toward socialism. The last eight years of El Presidente Jorge Bush's reign and the fever pitch which the RNC establishment is pushing John McCain demonstrates just how right Pat Buchanan was. Like Buchanan, the RINO scum of the Republican Party joined in with their buddies in the Democrap Party to smear him and genuine conservatives while promoting and propping up backstabbing liberal trash like McCain.

The very worst and most objectionable candidate possible is the very one being foisted off on the conservative electorate base by the Republican't Party apparatus either to deliberately lose the 2008 election or put onto power a liberal scumbag as bad or worse than the commie liberal morons running on the Democrat ticket. Buchanan's statement is right on. If Juan McNugget is the Republican candidate, then the RNC will have already elected Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

imho; i think msm/ powers that be, want obama as the next pres. and everyone knows in a general election mcamnesty is unelectable. so if he wins the republican nomination essentially the democratic nominee will run unopposed. the dems don't want billary so they dragged the swimmer (kennedy) off his bar stool and propped him up for the photo shoot with huisan obama.... just my opinon.
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