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jean ALIPAC Administrator


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Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 10:37 pm Post subject: Jamiel’s Law may move to ballot |
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Jamiel's Law may move to ballot
Mayoral candidate Walter Moore said Thursday he has begun a drive to put "Jamiel's Law" on the March 2009 Los Angeles city ballot — the same one in which he is trying to unseat Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa.
If adopted, the law would permit Los Angeles police officers to arrest gang members for breaking U.S. immigration law. It would supersede Special Order 40, a 29-year-old LAPD policy that bars officers from arresting or questioning people solely on suspicion of being in the country illegally. Moore told a crowd of about 200 people — gathered at the Wilshire Ebell Theatre to hear about his proposal — that he decided on an initiative after hearing no response from City Council members to his request for an ordinance.
Jamiel's Law is named for Jamiel Shaw II, 17, who was shot to death by suspected gang members on March 2 close to his Arlington Heights home. Police arrested Pedro Espinoza, 19, who reportedly entered the U.S. illegally at age 4. Police say Espinoza is a member of the 18th Street Gang. He was released from jail, where he was being held on a weapons charge, a day before the killing.
Espinoza had been arrested by Culver City police and jailed and released by the Sheriff's Department, so the LAPD and Special Order 40 did not come into play. But Moore has dismissed that point, saying, in effect, that if his law had been in place, LAPD officers at some point prior to his weapons arrest would have seen Espinoza, identified him as a gang member, and arrested him on immigration charges.
The killing of Jamiel Shaw II, and Moore's advocacy for the change in the law, has united some black and white illegal immigration opponents, threatened to widen a gulf between African Americans and Latino immigrants, and forced city officials to refocus on Special Order 40. At least some LAPD officers appear to believe, incorrectly, that the policy prevents them from cooperating or even communicating with immigration authorities. A senior lead officer who misquoted Special Order 40 in a March newsletter, adding in anti-cooperation language, acknowledged that he got the wording not from the LAPD manual but from the American Patrol anti-illegal-immigration web site.
LAPD Chief William J. Bratton said he would clarify the policy for his officers. He also told the Times editorial board that he would make no changes to the order.
Moore repeated his assertion that the Times caters to Latino illegal immigrants because its parent company, Tribune, also owns the Spanish-language paper Hoy.
"The mayor, the City Council, and L.A. Times/Hoy won't take action," Moore said. "It's up to you."
Also speaking at the event were KRLA radio personality Kevin James and the young victim's father, Jamiel Shaw Sr.
James called for audience members to support Moore's campaign financially. "It's really expensive to run for mayor of Los Angeles against a former gang member who is the incumbent," James said.
Villaraigosa was not a gang member, but the claim that he was has become popular among illegal immigration opponents.
Shaw criticized the deputy district attorney prosecuting Espinoza, saying he worried she would try to portray his son as a gang member because he was carrying a red Spiderman backpack. "I want everybody to know," he said, "the fix is in."
Posted by Robert Greene on May 2, 2008
http://opinion.latimes.com _________________ Why aren't our immigration laws enforced? |
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MW ALIPAC Super Hero


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Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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| I hope Moore is successful. |
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MyAmerica ALIPAC Super Hero


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Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | If adopted, the law would permit Los Angeles police officers to arrest gang members for breaking U.S. immigration law. |
IMO it needs to go a step further and allow the immigration status of anyone arrested to be checked--not just gang members.
"Evil unchecked grows. Evil tolerated poisons the whole system."
Jawaharlal Nehru |
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lccat ALIPAC Hero Elite


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Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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| MyAmerica wrote: | | Quote: | | If adopted, the law would permit Los Angeles police officers to arrest gang members for breaking U.S. immigration law. |
IMO it needs to go a step further and allow the immigration status of anyone arrested to be checked--not just gang members.
"Evil unchecked grows. Evil tolerated poisons the whole system."
Jawaharlal Nehru |
Agreed, I realize this is a big step, pioneering for LA, but why not arrest anyone who breaks United States Immigration Laws not just identified gang members? |
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TheFomorian ALIPAC Master


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Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 1:14 am Post subject: |
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Good news!
 _________________ I freed thousands of slaves; I could have freed more if they knew they were slaves.
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CaliforniaDreamer ALIPAC Activist 3


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Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 10:17 am Post subject: |
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| I have high hopes for Jamiels Law to become law. Not only do we have Walter Moore going full guns, there is major support from radio talk show hosts Kevin James, Doug McIntyre, Terry Anderson and Bill O'Reilly. Bill helped get Jessica's Law passed and he's going to do the same with this one. |
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Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 11:36 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Mayoral candidate Walter Moore said Thursday he has begun a drive to put "Jamiel's Law" on the March 2009 Los Angeles city ballot — the same one in which he is trying to unseat Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa. |
I'm behind Walter Moore 100 %. It will take a might effort to oust Villar. Moore needs all the help he can get. I'm in ! _________________ IT'S NOT HOW YOU GET IN, IT'S HOW YOU GET OUT |
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Nicie ALIPAC Titan


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| Quote: | | LAPD Chief William J. Bratton said he would clarify the policy for his officers. He also told the Times editorial board that he would make no changes to the order. |
He's another one we need to go after. _________________ IT'S NOT HOW YOU GET IN, IT'S HOW YOU GET OUT |
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Gogo ALIPAC Super Hero


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Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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| My hubby use to work for the City of L.A. Trust me the council and the mayor are snakes. |
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miguelina ALIPAC Super Hero


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Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Shaw criticized the deputy district attorney prosecuting Espinoza, saying he worried she would try to portray his son as a gang member because he was carrying a red Spiderman backpack. "I want everybody to know," he said, "the fix is in." |
A teenager walks around with a cartoon character backpack and it's gang related?!?!? V****V??? That is asinine! _________________ "If you love our nation, STOP illegal immigration!" |
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THAT BOY DESERVES JUSTICE!!! _________________ Work Harder Millions on Welfare Depend on You! |
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