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jean
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 1:25 am    Post subject: Amnesty supporters celebrate victories as ALIPAC regroups Reply with quote

Amnesty supporters celebrate victories as ALIPAC regroups
November 21, 4:23 PM
DC Immigration Examiner
Andy Arnold


More than 50,000 immigration supporters from across the country got together with friends, family and neighbors Nov. 18 to hear Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-Ill.) lay out the strategy for winning reform on a telephonic briefing, according to Center for Community Change.

The call came just days after Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano reiterated the president’s commitment to passing comprehensive immigration reform in early 2010, showing support for reform is strong and growing, advocates claim.

People were able to join the call individually or from the nearly 900 house parties held across the country. The large number of house parties is remarkable considering last week a major anti-immigration group could only rile up its base for 53 events, sponsors bragged in a press release.

The “major anti-immigration group,” Americans for Legal Immigration PAC, saw the house parties a little differently.

“Congressman Luis Gutierrez is claiming his big phone conference Wednesday night is a success that gathered 60,000 people on the call,” ALIPAC says in a fund-raising pitch. “This is a very interesting projection considering that we listened in on the English language version of the call and they proclaimed only 16,000 people were on the line.”

The email also reminds readers Gutierrez promised his supporters he would file he would an amnesty bill by the end of October, then it was November, now he says December. Also, ALIPAC says, 44,000 of the Families, Freedom and Faith: A Call to Action for Immigration Reform conference call participants spoke with this member of Congress in Spanish.

“If accurate, we can honestly say that Luis Gutierrez is building a political army that includes many illegal aliens because legal immigrants are required to have some limited proficiency in English,” ALIPAC said.

No independent organizations verified the number of people at the tea parties or on the conference call.

The way William Gheen, president of ALIPAC, tells it, the none too successful anti-immigration tea parties may bankrupt his organization. Gheen has been sending emergency fundraising messages in an attempt to raise $9,000 by Nov. 30 in order to keep the doors open. “Anything less and we will not be able to continue our mission into 2010,” he says in an email pitch.

Between pitches on Nov. 18 and Nov. 20, the group apparently raised $16,000. You can pledge via the web.

www.examiner.com
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 1:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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900 house parties


I didn't see that many on their map. Also the ones I saw were held at La Raza affiliates. You know those non-profits that are not supposed to be political.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The way William Gheen, president of ALIPAC, tells it, the none too successful anti-immigration tea parties may bankrupt his organization. Gheen has been sending emergency fundraising messages in an attempt to raise $9,000 by Nov. 30 in order to keep the doors open. “Anything less and we will not be able to continue our mission into 2010,” he says in an email pitch.

What? The "none too successful" anti-amnesty tea parties? Where is this moron "reporter" getting that they were "none too successful" ? There were over 50 tea parties all over the country, many with hundreds of people, all organized in a matter of just weeks, and the first time anti-amnesty tea parties were held. I'd say that was very successful!!
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That did it - my donation is on the way.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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http://www.alipac.us/article-4723--0-0.html
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 4:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Amnesty supporters celebrate victories as ALIPAC regroup Reply with quote

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showing support for reform is strong and growing, advocates claim.

Really? Where's the proof? Liars.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 6:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Amnesty supporters celebrate victories as ALIPAC regroup Reply with quote

wilro wrote:
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showing support for reform is strong and growing, advocates claim.

Really? Where's the proof? Liars.


The real question is, among whom? Illegals? American Citizens? I'll bet all of Mexico is in favor of amnesty.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, there is a good way to verify there were 900 house parties listening through phone records. Unfortunately that would probably take a court order.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 6:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The “major anti-immigration group,” Americans for Legal Immigration PAC, saw the house parties a little differently.


I was perplexed when I saw the first part of this sentence. I wonder if the writer of this article bothered to notice that he was calling "Americans for Legal Immigration" an "anti-immigrant group".

It's hard for one to contradict oneself before they even finish a sentence.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went to the examiner.com website to check-out some of the readers' comments. A lady named April wrote that she was against Amnesty for illegal aliens. I was shocked to see this dissenting opinion:

DS says: "Racist April. It will happen no matter how many calls you make. No one cares about your lazy hillbilly life. Your forefathers came to this country illegally killing thousands of Indians. Don't be a pimple on my ###. Welcome others, after all they are doing more for this economy than you are. This country was built on the backs of the illegals while the hillbillies took credit".

And here we have another contradiction. DS calls April a racist, but then calls her a hillbilly. And our Congress wants to pass an Amnesty for them? And make them Americans?

http://www.examiner.com/x-3150-DC-Immigration-Examiner~y2009m11d21-Amnesty-supporters-celebrate-victories-as-ALIPAC-regroups
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I went to the examiner.com website to check-out some of the readers' comments. A lady named April wrote that she was against Amnesty for illegal aliens. I was shocked to see this dissenting opinion:


That would be me. How ya doing? Now the fine folks advocating for amnesty are attacking ALIPAC. Why is it these idiots always resort to name calling and violence?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AprilM1967 wrote:
Why is it these idiots always resort to name calling and violence?

It's all they have!

Good job April, you ruffled their feathers.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apparently I'm still ruffling them, ratbstard. I'm now being told that I'm also against desegregation in schools and against the civil liberties movement of the 60s. WOW! I'm good. Honestly, I never even realized it was this easy to get them in a lather.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doing a great job, April. Very Happy Whip them into a foam politely with wonderful words that demonstrate their stupidity in not debating correctly and with diplomacy. Go get 'em.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When you hit them where it hurts, they become obsessed with you.

All this means, is we are doing a good job.
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