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Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 1:57 pm Post subject: Proponents alter immigration bill in face of tough economic
Proponents alter immigration bill in face of tough economic climate
By Jared Allen - 11/23/09 06:00 AM ET
House Democrats are making changes to their immigration legislation to reflect the nation’s high unemployment rate.
The move comes as recognition that the 10.2 percent jobless rate – which is expected to rise and remain in double-digits for much of 2010 -- has altered the political landscape for an immigration bill.
“Each bill is reflective of a time. And with unemployment over 10 percent I think we need to have language that is very carefully tailored,” said Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-Ill.).
Some supporters of reforming U.S. immigration laws to provide a pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants acknowledge the tough economic times create a difficult climate for legislation.
“There are some things that will make it harder [than in past years],” said Rep. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.), who has co-sponsored legislation on immigration with Gutierrez.
“People will look at the unemployment numbers and say; ‘Well, why are we focusing on this?’ So, yeah, I think the hill’s a little steeper.”
The nation’s unemployment rate was 4.5 percent when legislation sponsored by Sens. Edward Kennedy (D-Mass.) and John McCain (R-Ariz.) in 2007 stalemated in the Senate. Michigan, with 7.1 percent unemployment, was the state with the highest jobless rate at the time.
At the end of last month, 22 states, the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico and dozens of metropolitan areas had average unemployment rates above 9 percent. Michigan’s rate is above 15 percent. California’s is 12.2 percent.
Gutierrez said he hopes to keep as much of the framework of the 2007 legislation as possible, but some aspects will clearly have to change.
For example, the 2007 legislation created a “New Worker” program as an early step toward earned citizenship, but allowed the Secretary of Labor to reject new worker visas in areas where the unemployment rate rose above 9 percent.
Gutierrez said his latest bill will have to have much higher unemployment thresholds, and he said the dozen of Democrats he has included in an early immigration reform working group are looking at different policy options.
“We believe that every American should always have first crack at every job,” Gutierrez said. “Having said that, where the opportunities exist, we need to sustain our economy. And so we need workers. Even in this very unstable economic situation we find ourselves in, there are still crabs that need to be picked, there are still onions going un-harvested. It’s just true.”
General anxiety over job security likely will continue to drive Republican opposition against House and Senate immigration bills.
“Americans are conditioned to believe that illegal workers are necessary,” Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa), an opponent of granting “amnesty” to illegal immigrants, said Thursday at an immigration forum called: “American Jobs in Peril: The Impact of Uncontrolled Immigration.”’
Rep. Lamar Smith (R-Texas), who announced the forum with King, argues the reforms advocated by Gutierrez would allow illegal immigrants to take jobs that should go to citizens and legal immigrants. Smith and King argue Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano was wrong in suggesting last week that the recession has triggered a significant decline in immigration and the best opportunity to enact reform.
“How can they allow 12 million illegal immigrants to take jobs that should go to citizens and legal immigrants?,” he asked in a statement announcing the forum. “And how can they claim that enforcement is ‘done’ when there are more than 400 open miles of border with Mexico, hundreds of thousands of criminal and fugitive aliens and millions of illegal immigrants taking American jobs?”
Flake said the unified GOP resistance to most Democratic priorities, unemployment and the emerging Democratic approach to immigration reform have made bipartisanship unlikely.
“Given what we’ve seen, I’d be surprised [to see a bipartisan bill],” he said.
Gutierrez and other advocates of a guest worker program are still charging ahead with plans for legislation that would create a pathway to citizenship for some 12 million undocumented immigrants. They hope to see Congress begin a debate this spring, though this will depend on the Senate taking up legislation.
Gutierrez said he will “design language that guarantees that no American citizen, no one born in the United States of America, will ever lose a job opportunity to someone who is foreign born.”
Gutierrez said he will “design language that guarantees that no American citizen, no one born in the United States of America, will ever lose a job opportunity to someone who is foreign born."
Well, Luis, you better start understanding that there are many foreign-born who are here legally, and I certainly hope your bill will differentiate. As an American, I would hate to see the waste of paper on a bill like this until you get that straight and quit spouting La Raza-speak. _________________ Immigration is not a right that belongs to anybody and everybody who wants to come here. It is a privilege we Americans alone decide to convey. - Patrick J. Buchanan
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Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 9:15 pm Post subject:
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Gutierrez said he will “design language that guarantees that no American citizen, no one born in the United States of America, will ever lose a job opportunity to someone who is foreign born.”
Hmm...kind of like 287(g) and/or the SAVE act? _________________ If a man sneaks into your home he is a burglar, not an undocumented tenant you must provide for!
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Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 9:32 pm Post subject: Re: Proponents alter immigration bill in face of tough econo
jean wrote:
Proponents alter immigration bill in face of tough economic climate
By Jared Allen - 11/23/09 06:00 AM ET
House Democrats are making changes to their immigration legislation to reflect the nation’s high unemployment rate.
The move comes as recognition that the 10.2 percent jobless rate – which is expected to rise and remain in double-digits for much of 2010 -- has altered the political landscape for an immigration bill.
“Each bill is reflective of a time. And with unemployment over 10 percent I think we need to have language that is very carefully tailored,” said Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-Ill.). Some supporters of reforming U.S. immigration laws to provide a pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants acknowledge the tough economic times create a difficult climate for legislation.
“There are some things that will make it harder [than in past years],” said Rep. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.), who has co-sponsored legislation on immigration with Gutierrez.
“People will look at the unemployment numbers and say; ‘Well, why are we focusing on this?’ So, yeah, I think the hill’s a little steeper.”
The nation’s unemployment rate was 4.5 percent when legislation sponsored by Sens. Edward Kennedy (D-Mass.) and John McCain (R-Ariz.) in 2007 stalemated in the Senate. Michigan, with 7.1 percent unemployment, was the state with the highest jobless rate at the time.
At the end of last month, 22 states, the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico and dozens of metropolitan areas had average unemployment rates above 9 percent. Michigan’s rate is above 15 percent. California’s is 12.2 percent.
Gutierrez said he hopes to keep as much of the framework of the 2007 legislation as possible, but some aspects will clearly have to change.
For example, the 2007 legislation created a “New Worker” program as an early step toward earned citizenship, but allowed the Secretary of Labor to reject new worker visas in areas where the unemployment rate rose above 9 percent.
Gutierrez said his latest bill will have to have much higher unemployment thresholds, and he said the dozen of Democrats he has included in an early immigration reform working group are looking at different policy options.
“We believe that every American should always have first crack at every job,” Gutierrez said. “Having said that, where the opportunities exist, we need to sustain our economy. And so we need workers. Even in this very unstable economic situation we find ourselves in, there are still crabs that need to be picked, there are still onions going un-harvested. It’s just true.”
General anxiety over job security likely will continue to drive Republican opposition against House and Senate immigration bills.
“Americans are conditioned to believe that illegal workers are necessary,” Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa), an opponent of granting “amnesty” to illegal immigrants, said Thursday at an immigration forum called: “American Jobs in Peril: The Impact of Uncontrolled Immigration.”’
Rep. Lamar Smith (R-Texas), who announced the forum with King, argues the reforms advocated by Gutierrez would allow illegal immigrants to take jobs that should go to citizens and legal immigrants. Smith and King argue Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano was wrong in suggesting last week that the recession has triggered a significant decline in immigration and the best opportunity to enact reform.
“How can they allow 12 million illegal immigrants to take jobs that should go to citizens and legal immigrants?,” he asked in a statement announcing the forum. “And how can they claim that enforcement is ‘done’ when there are more than 400 open miles of border with Mexico, hundreds of thousands of criminal and fugitive aliens and millions of illegal immigrants taking American jobs?”
Flake said the unified GOP resistance to most Democratic priorities, unemployment and the emerging Democratic approach to immigration reform have made bipartisanship unlikely.
“Given what we’ve seen, I’d be surprised [to see a bipartisan bill],” he said.
Gutierrez and other advocates of a guest worker program are still charging ahead with plans for legislation that would create a pathway to citizenship for some 12 million undocumented immigrants. They hope to see Congress begin a debate this spring, though this will depend on the Senate taking up legislation.
Gutierrez said he will “design language that guarantees that no American citizen, no one born in the United States of America, will ever lose a job opportunity to someone who is foreign born.”
What the bolded statements above mean is that there will be even more immigration. He is saying that he would adjust the threshold even higher than the 9% unemployment rate in the last bill. OMG. So they will be giving out worker visas until we have another depression.
Now we know why former President Dubya Bush pressed so hard to pass an Amnesty in 2007. He knew that the economy was going to "tank" in a couple of years, leading to 10 % unemployment, and he wanted illegals to have already had legal status.
It was Bush's idea, early in his first term, to promote a program of affordable home-buying to low-income groups, and even to illegal aliens. This led to the Mortgage Industry Crisis shortly after the failed 2007 Amnesty attempt. This led to the $ 787 billion bailouts approved by Congress, and the stimulus program, and massive Federal debt. And 15 million unemployed Americans. I'm astonished that even Luis Gutierrez acknowledges that Americans should come first.
Joined: Nov 01, 2007 Posts: 3656 Location: New Alien City-(formerly New York City)
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:40 pm Post subject:
sunlandbob wrote:
I'm astonished that even Luis Gutierrez acknowledges that Americans should come first.
If you believe that BS I have a certain bridge for sale. _________________ If a man sneaks into your home he is a burglar, not an undocumented tenant you must provide for!
When he talks about jobs going first to those who are American born, he surely knows this includes the millions of anchor babies who will soon be eligible to take American jobs. The Hispanic population in this country is increasing mostly by births of citizen children to illegal aliens, and the impact on the job market in the future will be tremendous.
Joined: May 22, 2006 Posts: 28640 Location: Mexifornia
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 2:23 am Post subject:
Illegal alien ally Luis Gutierrez "guarantees" protection for American workers
November 25, 3:18 PM
Madison Immigration Policy Examiner Dave Gorak
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Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-IL), the self-appointed messiah for illegal aliens, says his soon to be introduced amnesty bill will include adequate protection for American workers.
The "repulsive" Gutierrez, who earlier this year criss-crossed the country with his "family unity" road show that seeks to legalize 12 million illegals, said he will “design language that guarantees that no American citizen, no one born in the United States of America, will ever lose a job opportunity to someone who is foreign born.”
You lie, congressman.
If Gutierrez, who is a member of the arrogant Congressional Hispanic Caucus, is genuinely concerned about protecting Americans from unnecessary foreign competition in the workplace, why has he spent his 16-years in the House supporting legislation that does just the opposite?
What Lying Louie should be forced to explain to his constituents and the rest of the country is his support for an immigration policy that allows 7 million illegals to remain in their jobs and permits 125,000 foreign workers to enter this country legally each MONTH while nearly 16 million Americans are unemployed.
Luis thinks he's a slick liar and he thinks he can con the American people into accepting another amnesty. If those bums in the district of criminals pass amnesty the American people are going to come unglued. I mean it really looks like they are trying to start a fight with the American People. I don't get it. We have more than made it clear to them what our sentiments are on this issue and they won't take no for an answer. We might have to make it more clear for them still. What's it going to take?? If we don't vote these traitors out next year then those who didn't help vote 'em out deserve what they get. It's just too bad they'll drag the rest of us down with them. DANG IT!!!
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If we don't vote these traitors out next year then those who didn't help vote 'em out deserve what they get. It's just too bad they'll drag the rest of us down with them. DANG IT!!!