Attention everyone I found it, please watch!

ALIPAC

Please watch this whole thing and let me know what you think.

http://msnlatino.telemundo.com/shows/Al_Rojo_Vivo/video_player?uuid=6c9aef68-1b4b-4a93-9281-ded0750bcc7f

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ALIPAC · Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 12:08 am Post subject:

William's Notes

"building a bridge to a future in which there is legalization" -- Lou Dobbs at 2:40 in this video.

"we need the ability to legalize illegal immigrants on certain conditions." 19:40

GeorgiaPeach · ALIPAC Moderator Joined: Aug 04, 2006 Posts: 7862

Lou apologizes for not being able to speak in Spanish.

Lou Dobbs mentions compromise.

"He wants a rational, humane immigration policy"

He wants borders controlled

"Time for people to come together, instead of wasting more time..."

"What isn't working is a penalty for those people who are in this country illegally." ( I think that this is what was said)

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Conclusion for me with this particular interview - I think that Lou is waffling, as he ponders a political career. I personally do not care for what appears to be excuse making for his previous words. We cannot compromise Lou Dobbs. We want our laws enforced, and no amnesty or pathway to citizenship.

Pitiful that politicians believe they must pander to one group to gather votes.

It is also a shame that media sources have so many representatives that are for illegal behavior, pushing for amnesty, and who care less what the vast majority of Americans want for the United States. The Hispanic community portrayed by the public faces that we generally see, seem to think amnesty is the only option.

Psalm 139:14

redpony353 · Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 12:31 am Post subject:

Twenty minutes into the interview, Lou DOES say that illegals should be legalized under certain circumstances. What the hec is going on? I listened to that part of the video TWICE.

agrneydgrl · ALIPAC Hero Elite Joined: May 20, 2007 Posts: 2280

I am sooooooooooooo dissappointed.

redpony353 · Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 12:37 am Post subject:

19:32 to 19:50

This is the section of the tape where he says that illegals should be legalized "under certain conditions."

redpony353 · Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 12:38 am Post subject:

GeorgiaPeach · ALIPAC Moderator Joined: Aug 04, 2006 Posts: 7862

"Legalization under certain conditions/circumstances" = AMNESTY Rolling Eyes

There is no solution or answer Lou for people such as this interviewer and the other amnesty supporters.

Psalm 139:14

redpony353 · Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 12:42 am Post subject:

GeorgiaPeach · ALIPAC Moderator Joined: Aug 04, 2006 Posts: 7862

We understand your distress redpony. I was not sure of the exact wording, so I included both words. I did not want to go back and listen again.

Will we be seeing Lou and Janet of La Raza next?

Psalm 139:14

redpony353 · Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 12:48 am Post subject:

Dixie · Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 12:56 am Post subject:

I feel duped, played and betrayed.

Dixie
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Dixie · Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 1:05 am Post subject:

He would make a hell of a politician.

The same kind we've been putting in office.

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ALIPAC · Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 1:15 am Post subject:

Everyone please post your reactions and feelings on this thread in Announcements. Im putting this sad info out to the nation right now, so please post where everyone will be looking.

http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-179340.html

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SicNTiredInSoCal · Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 1:29 am Post subject:

Im not surprised....they are all the same.... Crying or Very sad

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ShockedinCalifornia · ALIPAC Super Hero Joined: Nov 10, 2006 Posts: 2592

Poor Lou. He was raked through the coals by that inhospitable over-bearing Latina Maria shrew. How many times did she refer to him as Enemy No. 1 of all Latinos?

She was on a non-stop tirade against just a few of his reports out of many years on his basically fair reporting of the problems encountered by illegal immigration. He cound hardly get a word in edgewise and he such a more intelligent a gracious person that the whole interview was a fiasco because the woman couldn't hear anything except her own voice. Lou has a highly educated and refined ability to make the best of any interview while others go off into orbit. He pointed out over and over that many minutes had passed and no constructive message had been discussed. Until the last few, finally.

I have to say this is the problem with most of the accusatory one-sided Latino views in this country. They are blamers not listeners or mutual problem solvers. Her non-sensical tirade about Joe Arpaio just slid off Lou's shoulders because he was appalled by her unwillingness to comprehend that Joe has never been punished with any wrong-doing.

I think Lou did as fine a professional job as anyone could under these circumstances. She was in attack mode and proudly brandished it at the end.

What he said is basically what he has been saying all along. We need to absolutely secure our ports and borders, that he is not against immigration but that our policies need to be restructured (hopefully more control of who comes here), and that it is up to responsible people to solve the problem of legalization of some under certain conditions. (Not by a bunch of weak politicians or a politicized trend of conditions, or sovereign capitulation.)
There were decent glimpses when he had a chance to speak and I look forward to hearing much more of his thinking.

For those who were disappointed, please listen again. It wasn't as bad as you thought. He wasn't cornered, he admitted to a couple of factual mistakes, and didn't lose his perspective at all. He accepted the invitation to appear on Telemundo but didn't change his position which has always been to openly disclose and now to try and solve federal immigration problems....properly and constructively.

Getting your points accross with a bunch of reactionaries ain't easy.

April · ALIPAC Executive Officer Joined: Dec 07, 2006 Posts: 22703

What I saw was a man groveling and back peddling. IT was disgusting.
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JBParrothead · Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 4:40 am Post subject:

That news anchor kept drumming up crap from 3-4 years ago and was using this "interview" as a grilling session instead of as an interview. She was right on one thing though, yes...Lou is starting to sound like a politician. If that's the direction where he is heading, then we'd better get used to it. With his actions and words and stances that he has displayed for so many years, I rather have him in the driver's seat than anyone else.
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redpony353 · Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 4:45 am Post subject:

Judy · ALIPAC Super Hero Joined: Apr 17, 2005 Posts: 13881

This is so disappointing. We need to tell him he doesn't need to pander to this to run for office. He just needs to be firm. No amnesty, no shamnesty, no legalization, no legal flow, no flow, just a 1970's replacement trickle like numbersusa suggests. Everyone else has to go home. Period.

Is there no one out there who will stand up for Americans besides ALIPAC?
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Hylander_1314 · Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 7:43 am Post subject:

Somebody has gotten to Lou. That's all there is to it. And she has the audacity to make statements about the Constitution? Somebody ought tto send her this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K8F75owibI

This should help with the shock of Lou's interview.
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