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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 10:42 am Post subject: MA-State-funded housing for illegal immigrants?
State-funded housing for illegal immigrants?
Updated: Wednesday, 25 Nov 2009, 7:50 AM EST
Published : Tuesday, 24 Nov 2009, 10:25 PM EST
Alison
Bologna
"There's very high demand for state-public housing,” says Amy Shectman of the Department of Housing and Community Development. In Massachusetts. The state owns approximately 50,000 housing units and there’s no central wait list. So that means those in need of housing, based upon their income, go either to their city or town to sign up.
“It you combined all the households, 85,000 or so are on the waitlist for 50,000 units,” Shectman says. Some families double up on waitlists because there are never enough housing units for everyone who needs them.
During the election year, it made big news when President Barack Obama’s aunt was found living in state-funded housing in South Boston. When, at the time, she was technically in the country illegally.
“These are incredibly complex processes. They’re always very fluid, they’re not concrete,” says Toby Buevin, the policy director at the Massachusetts Immigrant and Refugee Advocacy Coalition. It may not surprise you to know that it’s nearly impossible for the state to figure how many illegal immigrants are here living in state-funded housing. But no one is even allowed to ask.
“The status of your documentation is irrelevant per that U.S. District Court ruling,” Shectman says.
It’s a ruling that allows anyone access to state-funded housing, whether they’re here legally or not. Meaning non-citizens can get public housing paid for by tax-abiding citizens. The case dates back to 1977 and a federal consent decree out of Waltham. The result of a class-action lawsuit, the state is now prohibited from discriminating between legal and illegal residents. The Presdient’s aunt, therefore, like anyone else, can get housing under the law, regardless of her citizenship status.
“We like to obey the laws of the land and the U.S. District Court ruled that we are not allowed. It would be illegal for us to kick her out,” Shectman says.
“I think it’s wrong,” says State Senator Robert Hedlund, who is backing a bill which he says, puts “law-abiding citizens” at the top of any state housing waitlist.
“I think the federal government has it right; they require that we screen applicants for their citizenship status in an effort to keep someone who broke the laws of our country and came into the country illegally from getting taxpayers subsidized housing,” Sen. Hedlund says.
But those at the Massachusetts Immigrant and Refugee Advocacy Coalition say that Senator Hedlund’s bill would essentially deny undocumented residents any housing.
“Really with the waiting list there would be no access to housing. And so the way that the bill in its current form is written, you would literally have citizen kids who are being denied access to housing because they might be living in a mixed-immigrant status family,” Buevin says. Senator Hedlund is moving forward with his bill. Right now its in the Committee on Housing, and should the committee approve it, the bill will then move to the full senate by next spring at the latest.
The president’s aunt has a deportation hearing in February. At last check she is still living in public housing in South Boston.
Joined: Jan 02, 2008 Posts: 5892 Location: Mexifornia
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 11:03 am Post subject:
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Really with the waiting list there would be no access to housing. And so the way that the bill in its current form is written, you would literally have citizen kids who are being denied access to housing because they might be living in a mixed-immigrant status family,” Buevin says. Senator Hedlund is moving forward with his bill. Right now its in the Committee on Housing, and should the committee approve it, the bill will then move to the full senate by next spring at the latest
Once again, the anchor baby is the key that unlocks the door!
But those at the Massachusetts Immigrant and Refugee Advocacy Coalition say that Senator Hedlund’s bill would essentially deny undocumented residents any housing.
So? I don't see anything wrong with that at all. If they want housing, they can dang well PAY for it. I resent paying for housing of people who have NO right to be in this country!! _________________ "If you love our nation, STOP illegal immigration!"
Joined: Aug 18, 2008 Posts: 1208 Location: NC and Canada. Got a foot in both worlds
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 12:45 pm Post subject:
miguelina wrote:
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But those at the Massachusetts Immigrant and Refugee Advocacy Coalition say that Senator Hedlund’s bill would essentially deny undocumented residents any housing.
So? I don't see anything wrong with that at all. If they want housing, they can dang well PAY for it. I resent paying for housing of people who have NO right to be in this country!!
I helped them put the article together and was thanked by Sen. Robert Hedlund. The issues director for the illega aliens lobby is Guevin not Buevin but for the benefit of our Mexican Spanish speaking members then Bueyvin would be accurate.
So a US District Court ruled that illegal aliens cannot be denied affordable housing.
I wonder if illegal dwellers still fit 10 people in a small apartment, or 20 people in a small house. If it's true that the Court won't allow discrimination against illegals, perhaps there's a law that would prohibit fitting so many people in a small dwelling.
I'm also concerned that affordable housing can also be used as "drop houses" for when human smugglers drop-off, say, around 50 illegals at that house, in preparation for transporting these illegals all around the country, and taking-up jobs that should go to unemployed Americans.
It would be the ultimate insult: American taxpayers who recently lost their jobs, who still have to pay Federal taxes to supplement this affordable housing, so that illegals would have affordable places to live, so that they can continue to steal Americans' jobs.
ALL ILLEGAL ALIENS, NOW HEAR THIS!!!
FREE HOUSING IF YOU GO TO MASSACHUSETTS! WE WELCOME YOU AND ALL YOUR EXTENDED FAMILIES TO COME.
Tell everyone back in Mexico to pack up the kids and hurry up to get here BEFORE winter!
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Time to put out posters and get the news out that Massachusetts WANTs all illegals to FLOCK to MA. Do you want free housing!!!
I need to hurry so illegals can also get lots of free Christmas gifts from unsuspecting donors. Who cares about those stupid donors?
I will be telling my whole extended email contact list ans telling all those activists to forward the info to their WHOLE contacty list too!!!!!
Get ready!!!!!!!!! Here they come!!!!!!!
Come on! We need to HELP out Massachusetts fill up those houses with LOTS & LOTS of nice little illegal families. We can get more business for schools, prisons and hospitals!!! Everyone wins! So what they don't pay and they pack in 43 people in a bedroom. They are God's children PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!
Puts law-abiding citizens at the lop of the list????
BUT jerky-faced Janet says ILLEGAL is NOT ILLEGAL so therefore the Illegals are legal citizens!!!! _________________ This country needs a leader and not someone that thinks he's an American Idol!
Joined: Apr 10, 2006 Posts: 31507 Location: Texas - The Lone Star State
Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 2:30 pm Post subject:
We must end the don't ask, don't tell policies when it comes to illegal aliens. The US Census should have been the first place.
Dixie _________________ Englishmen, who have no right in this kingdom of France, the King of Heaven sends you word and warning...depart into your own country... Joan of Arc.
I don't know exactly what the Texas law is regarding illegals in public housing - but I have a disabled friend in Fort Worth I visit who recently got moved to very nice, twice as large public housing because the old housing was being condemned or something.
I got nowhere when I brought up the subject of illegal aliens - turns out some of her 'best friends' are illegal! A lot of her ILLEGAL NEIGHBORS in public housing are good friends - and their children all call her grandma!
Of course, SHE lives on welfare, being disabled, so sees nothing wrong with MY tax dollars (which SHE doesn't have to pay, having no income!) supporting all these people - including HER!
I don't think I need to research the situation - I think it speaks for itself.
But those at the Massachusetts Immigrant and Refugee Advocacy Coalition say that Senator Hedlund’s bill would essentially deny undocumented residents any housing.
I have read a lot of articles here about American families living in their cars and under bridges in tents or in tent cities. It is a very sorry thing when these people get no chance due to illegals with anchor babies. Our citizens need the support of fellow countrymen, not the invaders who have no right to be here except for popping a kid every year.
Okay, I understand the sympathy for families, but what is Obama's aunt doing taking advantage of public housing with no anchor babies? _________________ Immigration is not a right that belongs to anybody and everybody who wants to come here. It is a privilege we Americans alone decide to convey. - Patrick J. Buchanan
They keep telling us that anchor babies are American citizens, but are they really?
Not under the US Constitution they aren't, because they aren't subject to our jurisdiction, their parents aren't either so ... I don't see how they are. _________________ "A Nation Without Borders Is Not A Nation." Ronald Reagan "SAVE AMERICA, DEPORT CONGRESS." Judy
Joined: Jan 27, 2009 Posts: 1253 Location: A Midwest State in North Amerimexico
Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 6:48 am Post subject:
NoBueno wrote:
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Really with the waiting list there would be no access to housing. And so the way that the bill in its current form is written, you would literally have citizen kids who are being denied access to housing because they might be living in a mixed-immigrant status family,” Buevin says. Senator Hedlund is moving forward with his bill. Right now its in the Committee on Housing, and should the committee approve it, the bill will then move to the full senate by next spring at the latest
Once again, the anchor baby is the key that unlocks the door!
The anchor baby policy really is a major factor in this whole immigration problem. It is an incentive for illegals to come in the first place, it is what allows illegals to qualify for public benefits such as this, illegals and their advocates purposely exploit it - they use it as a reason to NOT deport the parents, it allows for more immigrants later through Chain Migration.......
We HAVE to get this changed somehow. I REALLY hope California is able to get enough signatures on that petition to get it on their ballot.
Joined: Jun 17, 2007 Posts: 2567 Location: SW Florida
Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 1:29 pm Post subject:
Didn't Congress change the law a couple years ago so IA's could no longer get into HUD housing ?
I called my friend who is manager of HUD public housing in a town in OHIO and she told me they absolutly do NOT rent to Illegals.They do back ground and Social Security # checks before renting to people. She said they are not allowed to rent to IA's. ???
Joined: Nov 01, 2007 Posts: 3656 Location: New Alien City-(formerly New York City)
Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 10:19 pm Post subject:
Judy wrote:
arvard wrote:
They keep telling us that anchor babies are American citizens, but are they really?
Not under the US Constitution they aren't, because they aren't subject to our jurisdiction, their parents aren't either so ... I don't see how they are.
I found this link about "subject to the jurisdiction of" very informative:
They keep telling us that anchor babies are American citizens, but are they really?
Not under the US Constitution they aren't, because they aren't subject to our jurisdiction, their parents aren't either so ... I don't see how they are.
I found this link about "subject to the jurisdiction of" very informative:
Right. "subject to the jurisdiction of the United States" means their parents are US citizens. A court ruling later ruled that the children of legal immigrants here without permission with papers were US citizens, a case won a child of Chinese immigrants who actually returned to China but he was born here while they were legal residents and as such the court ruled "subject to our jurisdiction".
There has never been a law or court ruling that said illegal aliens were subject to our jurisdiction because of course they aren't, they're subject to the jurisdiction of the countries where they hold citizenship which makes their children automatic citizens of their ow countries, not ours.
The federal government has just allowed it to happen by not deporting them with their parents while they were minors and it just took a life of its own for no valid legal or constitutional purpose whatsoever. _________________ "A Nation Without Borders Is Not A Nation." Ronald Reagan "SAVE AMERICA, DEPORT CONGRESS." Judy
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would be accurate.
