US Senate Immigration bill =s in-state tuition for illegals!

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Friends, when I read this I about went ballistic!

By Charles Hurt
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
April 3, 2006

The immigration bill now under consideration in the Senate would grant even a broader amnesty to illegal aliens than similar legislation did in 1986, conservatives say, and would make hundreds of thousands of illegal residents eligible for in-state tuition at public colleges and universities.

"It should be called 'No Illegal Alien Left Behind,'?" said Sen. Jeff Sessions, Alabama Republican.

In 1986, Congress granted amnesty to 2.7 million illegal aliens. Current legislation would allow an estimated 11 million illegal aliens to continue working in the U.S. while applying for full citizenship.

Backers of the current legislation say it's not amnesty because the illegals would be fined $2,000. But opponents say it is amnesty because the illegals won't be sent home as required under current federal law.

It is "in every sense of what people mean by amnesty," Mr. Sessions said. "If it is not amnesty, it is the same thing as amnesty."
Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, Massachusetts Democrat and primary author of the bill, defends the program.

"All undocumented immigrants deserve this chance," he said. "But only those who pay the stiff fines, work for six years, pay their taxes, learn English and pass a civics test will be permitted to remain in the United States."

When the Senate Judiciary Committee approved the proposal last week, many were still not clear about its details because it was still largely made up of oral agreements. But once the 471-page bill was produced and distributed late last week, conservatives were alarmed by some of the provisions.

None so much as the proposal to make illegal aliens eligible for in-state tuition costs.

"This means that while American citizens from Tennessee, Georgia, South Carolina, Massachusetts have to pay out-of-state tuition rates if they send their kids to the University of Virginia or the University of Alabama, people who have illegally immigrated into the country do not," Mr. Sessions said. "How much sense does that make, to have people here illegally and they have more benefits than those who are here legally?"

In 2000, 126,000 illegal aliens were enrolled in U.S. colleges and universities, according to figures published by the Congressional Research Service. It's not clear how many would be eligible for in-state tuition rates if the current proposal became law.

Yesterday, Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist said he expects a final Senate floor vote on immigration legislation this week.

For years, Democrats and Republicans such as Sen. Orrin G. Hatch of Utah have pursued legislation that would enable illegals to get in-state tuition rates, which can be as little as one-third of what out-of-state students pay. While past proposals have made little headway, this one was added to the current bill last week after just minutes of debate.

"It will free eligible students from the constant fear of deportation," said Sen. Patrick J. Leahy of Vermont, the ranking Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee. "We hope to extend Hispanic young people greater educational opportunities, so they may realize the American dream and achieve their potential."

But voters, even in liberal states such as Massachusetts, overwhelmingly oppose providing in-state tuition rates to illegal aliens. Earlier this year, the Massachusetts legislature was poised to approve such a measure. But after a statewide groundswell of opposition from both Democrats and Republicans, the state House voted it down by a 96-57 vote.

The bill in the Senate, Mr. Session said, also would make illegals eligible for financial aid.

Minority Whip Richard J. Durbin, Illinois Democrat, said the financial-aid provision was stripped out, but defended the larger proposal. "We are not a country that punishes children for the mistakes of their parents," he said.

Mr. Sessions and other conservative Republicans spent much of last week denouncing the Senate proposal while emphasizing their support for legal immigration.

But in a column posted yesterday on OpinionJournal.com, White House ally Ed Gillespie dismissed their approach as "populist" and suggested those Republicans oppose even legal immigrants and immigration.

"The Republican Party cannot become an anti-immigration party," Mr. Gillespie warned his fellow Republicans. "Our majority already rests too heavily on white voters, given that current demographic voting percentages will not allow us to hold our majority in the future."
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ALIPAC · Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 10:22 pm Post subject:

Oh boy! They have screeewed up now! And we know exactly what to do don't we folks?

W
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CountFloyd · Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 10:48 pm Post subject:

And to further help them along, Lamar Alexander wants to give each and every one of them $500 of taxpayer money so they can learn English and some history of the country they've invaded.

ALIPAC · Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 11:41 pm Post subject:

They have no idea what kind of political pain is going to open up on them this week. They have made a huge mistake.

Those of us that were here last Spring during the battle of nc know what can be done and must be done now.

The US Senate is

"Going to replace American children in the limited seats in college with illegal aliens at taxpayer expense!"

Just wait till the nation hears this! It will be up to us to tell them.

W
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CountFloyd · Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 11:44 pm Post subject:

Count me in.

ALIPAC · Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 11:50 pm Post subject:

This is just the break we needed.

W
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Judy · ALIPAC Super Hero Joined: Apr 17, 2005 Posts: 12767

Yep....they went too far didn't they!!

I'm posting this one on the "hard heads" forum.

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ALIPAC · Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 12:06 am Post subject:

hold back one day Judy. Wait till i get a release ready Tuesday. It would be best if this went out with our unified effort and release statement.

We know the language to use that works. We need to make this more than they just read an article.

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ALIPAC · Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 10:36 am Post subject:

added to homepage

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WavTek · Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 10:54 am Post subject:

They never stop trying to subvert the will of the American people.

NoIllegalsAllowed · Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 2:49 pm Post subject:

a $2,000 fine is a joke. Most pay a coyote $1,500-$3,000 from Mexico, and $10,000-$15,000 from Central America every time they cross.

kdreger · Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 2:58 pm Post subject: This really gets me.......

This morning I woke up and turned on the Senate’s TV channel just to see Senator Nelson of Florida standing up talking about the “Gators” game yesterday! HELLO WORLD! This is the senate floor! Not the Orange Bowl! What on earth are these people thinking?

With the US being turned upside down on this immigration issue and everyday the debates in the senate going on……….. Is the “Gators” game MORE IMPORTANT than the business on the senate’s floor? Maybe! if so, then Senator Nelson should go out and play ball! He sure as heck is not doing the peoples business!

This is just another example of how these people just don’t “get it” of what is important to the country…….. Evil or Very Mad

The idea of "GIVING" away free education to those who come here illegally, and to make it the rest of the people to attend college. Vetrans who are in the active military HAVE to pay out of state fees! Hello world, Senators.wake up and listen to the people! Or we will remove you from office, and you can then go pick veggies in the fields with those you let into our country!
Da____ M I am just realllllly pissed off at these "sENATORS" if that is what we can call them!

Ken
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greyparrot · Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 4:50 pm Post subject:

Mamie · Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 7:15 pm Post subject:

Kyborn · ALIPAC New Recruit! Joined: Jan 06, 2007 Posts: 5

This is how the American taxpayers will actually end up paying for the $2000 Amnesty fine:

STEP ONE The illegal applies and pays for amnesty with a $2000 check.
STEP TWO The NOW legal immigrant applies for a Social Security Number.
STEP THREE The immigrant works.
STEP FOUR The immigrant get a W-2.
STEP FIVE The immigrant files a tax return with his anchor babies' Social Security Number on the EIC form.
STEP SIX The IRS approves the tax return.
STEP SEVEN The U.S. Treasury sends the immigrant a check for $4800 (or less) because we give the Earned Income Tax Credit to anyone with a SSN.

NEWBREED · Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 4:35 pm Post subject:

Quote:

"All undocumented immigrants deserve this chance," he said. "But only those who pay the stiff fines, work for six years, pay their taxes, learn English and pass a civics test will be permitted to remain in the United States."

WELL IF THIS COUNTRY ALLOWS IMMIGRANTS TO JOIN THE ARMY AND FIGHT FOR A COUNTRY THATS NOT THIERES THEN WHY NOT LET THEM HAVE THIS CHANCE FOR EDUCATION?
HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT THEY HAVE INVADED THIS COUNTRY WHEN WE ALL CAME TO THIS COUNTRY ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. THE NATIVES WERE THE FIRST PEOPLE IN THE US BEFORE IT WAS EVEN EVER THE US. WE HARDLY DONT HEAR THEM TALKING ABOUT HOW THE WHITE MAN INVADED THIERE COUNTRY. ITS NOT LIKE THE SCHOOLS ARE GOING TO BE TAKING IN IMMIGRANTS BEFORE LEGALS. THEYRE JUST GIVING EVERYONE THE EQUAL OPPORTUNITY WHICH IS WHY THE UNITED STATES IS THE BEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD.

lsmith1338 · Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 5:04 pm Post subject:

If illegal aliens want to fight for this country and serve in the military then they are offered college tuition assistance. We are talking about people who came here illegally looking for a hand-out for college. That we do not agree with. People who are not citizens of this country are not eligible for in-state tuition Evil or Very Mad

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NorthOfTheCity · Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 5:19 pm Post subject:

Dixie · Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 5:20 pm Post subject:

Welcome to Alipac NorthOfTheCity.

I agree, military service should not be a get out of illegal immigration pass.

Besides, MS 13 are in the military now gang tagging Iraq.

Don't need to train those imported gangsters.

Dixie
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olivermyboy · Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 8:18 pm Post subject:

I was just told today from Senator Kyle's staffer on immigration topics that this was "a state issue". Grrrrrrh!!!!!!!!
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