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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 2:53 pm    Post subject: It’s Illegal Immigration Stupid! Why McCain and Hillary Wi Reply with quote

It’s Illegal Immigration Stupid! Why McCain and Hillary Will Never Be President

November 19, 2007

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William Gheen
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The next round of polling data will show a dramatic drop in support for the candidacy of Hillary Clinton for President. We know this because of the precedent set by John McCain and Senators Harry Reid, Lindsay Graham, and Trent Lott who all experienced massive drops in their support levels after making the mistake of coming out in favor of assistance for or amnesty for illegal aliens instead of enforcement of our existing immigration laws.

Hillary Clinton will take the “McCain Plunge” because of her recent support for licenses for illegal aliens and subsequent flip-flop on the issue.

By coming out in support of licenses for illegal aliens she has taken a stance that national polling data shows 77% of Americans disagree with! Then by reversing her stance to oppose licenses for illegal aliens, she has angered the 15% of Americans that support the program. All the while, she has shown 100% of Americans that either side of the immigration debate cannot trust her! The results will be a first class campaign killer that will send Hillary’s support numbers down on a deadly spiral similar to the “McCain Plunge” that took him from the first place spot in the GOP Primary to 4th place due to his overt support for “Comprehensive Immigration Reform” which is widely viewed as Amnesty for illegal aliens.

Clinton came out in support of licenses for illegal aliens when asked about Governor Elliot Spitzer’s (D-NY) plan to give licenses to illegal aliens during the Democratic Presidential debates at Drexel University on October 30, 2007. She went on to criticize President George Bush for not passing “Comprehensive Immigration Reform” which was an amnesty plan offered to rewrite existing immigration laws that go un-enforced, despite a super majority of support from American citizens, and place illegal aliens in the US on a path to citizenship.

Clinton threw her support into a tailspin by making two mistakes. One, by backing the licenses for illegals and secondly, by claiming she thought “Comprehensive Immigration Reform” amnesty was a good idea.

She either ignored or failed to read about the poll conducted in her home state of New York by the Siena (College) Research Institute that showed 72% of her state’s voters rejected the licenses for illegals plan described in the Queens Courier on October 18, 2007.

Her campaign did notice a November 6 national poll conducted by Rasmussen Reports that found 77% of all American adults opposed licenses for illegal aliens including 68% of Democrats and 75% of those not affiliated with either major political party.

This information sent Hillary after Governor Spitzer to ask him to back away from his unpopular plan because she knew it would cost her the Presidency since she had come out in support of it at the Drexel University debate! The obvious thing about this part of the story is that Clinton asked Spitzer to back off of the plan until after the elections, not for good.

Then, she tried to reverse her stance during the November 15, 2007 CNN Debates. When asked if she supported licenses for illegal aliens she simply said “No”.

So there you have it folks! If you are part of the 77% of Americans opposed to licenses for illegal aliens, you know that Hillary thinks it is a “smart idea” but she is willing to lie to you about it in order to win the election. If you are part of the 15% of Americans that support licenses for illegal aliens then Hillary just damaged your cause while showing she is willing to lie to America about her true stance.

Most of the Democratic candidates, especially Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, are spouting that they are for Comprehensive Immigration Reform, an amnesty that would put most illegal aliens in the US on a path to licenses and citizenship!

Did these candidates and their staff miss the stellar plunges that the supporters of those radical plans took?

John McCain will never be President because he fell from 1st place to 4th or 5th in the GOP field after supporting Comprehensive Immigration Reform Amnesty.

Rasmussen Reports polling found that only 16% of Americans believed the Comprehensive Immigration Reform bills would decrease illegal immigration. Attempts to pass this legislation and the similar Dream Act Amnesty failed four times in 2007 with angry calls coming into Senate offices 50 to 1 against the act. The call volume was so heavy that it actually overloaded and shut down the capitol phone systems!

McCain’s support levels in the Republican primary fell like a brick to only 10% of Republican voters nationwide. The Arizona Star reported (5/22/2—7) that angry Republican voters were storming into the GOP state headquarters and tearing up their voter registration cards! By mid June, McCain was being called a ‘Traitor’ by voters during regular campaign stops and while approval ratings in his home state fell to historic lows!

Immediately following McCain’s coalition effort to pass Comprehensive Immigration Reform with Senator Ted Kennedy, the Republican National Committee (RNC) had to fire their phone telemarketers because they could not raise enough funds from the enraged Republican base that is in a state of revolt against the legislation.

Within a few weeks, McCain’s fundraising plummeted and he started to lay off staff. This generated speculation he might have enough sense to pull out of the race all together.

McCain’s co-conspirators in Washington did not fare well either.

Senator Harry Reid (D-NV) was the main front man pushing the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Bills. His approval ratings fell to only 19%! Senator Graham’s numbers fell in South Carolina as well.
Then the bottom fell out.

In the middle of the debate of Comprehensive Immigration Reform, Congress’s approval ratings fell to a historic low of 14% according to Gallup polls! Bush’s numbers fell to the lowest level of his Presidency into the 20’s. Rasmussen Reports tied the collapse of McCain and Bush’s approval numbers to their unpopular support of “Comprehensive Immigration Reform” amnesty!

The final blow to the legislation came on June 21, when the media reported the latest Zogby poll numbers that only 9% of Americans approved of how the President was handling immigration issues and only 3% approved of how Congress was handling it. While these low numbers included some supporters of Amnesty that were not happy with the legislative package, the focuses of the President and Senate at the time of these readings were in favor of Comprehensive Immigration reform. As an experienced campaign consultant, I can tell you that readings like this are both historic and unprecedented!

So now we have a slate of Democratic Presidential candidates proclaiming their love of Comprehensive Immigration Reform Amnesty as well as several Republicans.

And why would they support legislation that only has less than 20% support from the American public instead of supporting attrition enforcement measures that show 70-80% public support? It is because special interest groups, including the US Chamber of Commerce Political Action Committees that provide the vast majority of funds needed to run and win for President, support the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Amnesty and Open Borders Agenda.

These global corporations are making a lot of money off the sellout of America. In fact, many believe it is their influence over the Bush administration that has led to the non-enforcement and under enforcement of our existing immigration laws. We may be looking at the biggest corporate and political scandal in American history. Many of us envision a future where those responsible for this crisis are investigated, prosecuted, and put on public trial for what they have done to our nation and the founding principles of our country.

Will America remain the land of the self governed or will this radical Open Borders minority win?

The answer depends on two important factors. One, how many Americans will seek to determine which candidates support this radical agenda and to shout about it from the rooftops from now to Election Day to warn our fellow countrymen. Two, which candidates will truthfully support our existing immigration laws that would greatly reduce the number of illegal aliens in America if enforced over a period of years?

Will elite global corporations be the rulers of America or will the American public run the show?

The future is yours to decide.

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William Gheen is the President of ALIPAC, Americans for Legal Immigration PAC, found on the web at www.alipac.us ALIPAC seeks to work with and represent the 80% of Americans of every race, denomination, and political party that consistently indicate they want enforcement of our existing immigration laws. Gheen is also a veteran campaign consultant with over 44 campaigns of experience for both Democrat and Republican candidates in North Carolina.


Note: This article is an expansion of the discussion between William Gheen and Rick Sanchez on CNN a few days ago. To watch the video Licenses for Illegals: Hillary Clinton follows McCain Plunge visit

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Will elite global corporations be the rulers of America or will the American public run the show?

The future is yours to decide.

It's time to STAND UP AND BE COUNTED AMERICA!!!!!

Instead of letting these guys divide us on who the best candidate is... lets find one we can ALL agree on and THROW THE TRAITORS OUT OF OFFICE AND INTO PRISON!!!!!!!!!

I VOTE FOR AMERICA!!!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 5:12 pm    Post subject: Lou Dobbs Reply with quote

I think Lou Dobbs would be great as President. He is very intelligent and has alot of intelligent people on his show. I'm sure he would put together a nice cabinet to get back on track with the middle class. We are getting mauled. Problem is alot of people just keep voting for the same ole crap because they are too afraid to take a chance. "If you keep doing what you're doing, you're going to keep getting what you're getting". I am willing to bet Bush is as dirty as they come-he just hasn't been caught. Everything he stands for benefits corporations from high gas prices, illegal workers and no bid war contracts.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ONLY MARXISTS WILL VOTE FOR HILLARY...PERIOD but you know we got'em...
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes the future is ours to decide
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is a shame that in this country that WE have to dicide which one of the candidates will hurt us the least rather that whom is best for us and the country. The election is bought and paid for already and we the aAmerican people MUST hold these candidates to the task of doing what is right for this country and not for the Corporations that are driving this issue and Mr. Bush and the Congress has sold us out. Jim
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jdeas wrote:
It is a shame that in this country that WE have to dicide which one of the candidates will hurt us the least rather that whom is best for us and the country. The election is bought and paid for already and we the aAmerican people MUST hold these candidates to the task of doing what is right for this country and not for the Corporations that are driving this issue and Mr. Bush and the Congress has sold us out. Jim

look at it this way, at least "we" get to make the decision.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 2:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If those marxists that follow Hillary don't finally see what a liar she truly is, then they never will. On second thought, they probably like it!
We need to clean house of these traitors, and vote in someone who "HONESTLY" cares about America.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 4:42 am    Post subject: Thank you William! Reply with quote

Thank you a million times over William Gheen, not only for instilling hope in my heart again but for your persistent determination to bring this valuable information the the American people. This whole illegal immigration thing is so deeply depressing to say the least. To be raped by a whole other civilization is numbing to the mind. It's really a reculturalization of America into thought patterns that are completely foreign to our popular norm. This is the real issue. And what we're hearing about rapes, crime and even the fires rampent in California, perhaps having been started by the camp fires or candles lit by illegals living off the land is unbelievable. When will this nightmare end?

No doubt our hope lies in a Republican canditate. As you indicate William, perhaps Hell-ery is history, and perhaps this points to the ultimate nomination of somebody that will restore sanity to the country. But who is it? I've had hopes in Romney, but at times he seems weak and vague. I don't know if I can trust him. I love Duncan Hunter and Tom Tancredo; they're honest, clear and healthy minded. but they're low in the polls. Plus, I have trouble with this war business. I'm totally against the facist Muslim fanatics, but we're so deep in debt to China, etc.

My growing feeling is that we need to pull back our troops, close our borders, no doubt, and allow the country to heal. The only man I trust to do this is Ron Paul. The more I see and listen to this man on youtube and his own webiste: ronpaul2008, the more I love the man for his simplicity, honesty and basic intelligence.

Lord, Lord, give us a real man to run the country! Otherwise, we're going to end up in the trash heap of history.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The points made in this article would of course apply equally well to Giuliani, Romney, Thompson, and Huckabee.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On cable news this morning (FOX), they had a report that found in the most recent polling (yesterday?) that Obama now has a 4% LEAD over Hillary in Iowa. The first election there happens in about 6 weeks.
Edwards trails Hillary by 8% points.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joe_Liberty wrote:
The points made in this article would of course apply equally well to Giuliani, Romney, Thompson, and Huckabee.


Yes, we are AGAINST ALL TRAITORS...LET'S ELECT SOMEONE THAT IS "FOR THE PEOPLE!"
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I keep hearing people say that they want a candidate who will work on the side of the Amercian people and stop the invasion. That they are tired of having only the choice of the lesser of two evils.
I know that the media have done everything they can to keep such candidates hidden from the public but they do exist.
Tom Tancredo has not only "talked the talk", but has been "walking the walk" in the invasion for a long time now. Tom will stop and reverse this invasion. He is the last best hope for this to happen. He has done more to bring the issue to the forefront of this presidential campaign than any other candidate.
Some like to wish for a true conservative. He's right there...under your nose....wake up....he's Tom Tancredo. He's been called a one issue candidate by those trying to marginalize his candidacy, but Tom is very smart on a broad range of issues. And he is a patriot, not a traitor.
This is not to take away from the other two choices (Duncan Hunter and Ron Paul) that seem to have the better interest of America at heart. They also would be worthy of support and I would support either of them who might become nominated along with Tancredo. But any of the others (the "front runners") picked out for us by the media and other special interest with an agenda, will simply give us the same old traitorous status quo when it comes to the invasion. They are in bed with the council on foreign relations, chamber of commerce, big business and other sell outs. The agenda is the same, to make sure that America as you know it will no longer exist.
We have good candidates in the race, we just need to bypass the media and get behind them and support them and spread the word. Another job that the American media won't do.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree. I have been campaigning for Ron Paul. He always scores at the top or near the top of the Conservative Index.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I appreciate what Tancredo stands for but when I read that he suggested nuking Mecca and Medina for what a handful of lunatics did, he lost me there. I would certainly vote for Lou Dobbs for president. In a heartbeat. There is also someone else who would make a great president and that is Pat Buchanan. I didn't vote for that grinning piece of V****V Bush ever. He stole both elections. He and Cheney and all the corporate thieves should at the very least go to prison. These mexicans that claim we are racist are the ones that are racist. The name La Raza means the race. If that isn't racist nothing is. Does anyone know any blacks that aren't proud of being black??? I don't. But it's racist to be proud of being white? V****V that.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I voted for Pat Buchanan in the primaries in '92 and '96, but he isn't running this year. Neither is Lou. Even if one of them were running, if they were on the ballot with Ron Paul I would vote for Ron.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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by William Gheen
It’s Illegal Immigration, Stupid: Why McCain and Hillary Will Never Be President
November 20, 2007 02:00 PM EST



The next round of polling data will show a dramatic drop in support for the candidacy of Hillary Clinton for President. We know this because of the precedent set by John McCain and Senators Harry Reid, Lindsay Graham, and Trent Lott who all experienced massive drops in their support levels after making the mistake of coming out in favor of assistance for or amnesty for illegal aliens instead of enforcement of our existing immigration laws.

Hillary Clinton will take the “McCain Plunge” because of her recent support for licenses for illegal aliens and subsequent flip-flop on the issue.

By coming out in support of licenses for illegal aliens she has taken a stance that national polling data shows 77% of Americans disagree with! Then by reversing her stance to oppose licenses for illegal aliens, she has angered the 15% of Americans that support the program. All the while, she has shown 100% of Americans that either side of the immigration debate cannot trust her! The results will be a first class campaign killer that will send Hillary’s support numbers down on a deadly spiral similar to the “McCain Plunge” that took him from the first place spot in the GOP Primary to 4th place due to his overt support for “Comprehensive Immigration Reform” which is widely viewed as Amnesty for illegal aliens.

Clinton came out in support of licenses for illegal aliens when asked about Governor Elliot Spitzer’s (D-NY) plan to give licenses to illegal aliens during the Democratic Presidential debates at Drexel University on October 30, 2007. She went on to criticize President George Bush for not passing “Comprehensive Immigration Reform” which was an amnesty plan offered to rewrite existing immigration laws that go un-enforced, despite a super majority of support from American citizens, and place illegal aliens in the US on a path to citizenship.

Clinton threw her support into a tailspin by making two mistakes. One, by backing the licenses for illegals and secondly, by claiming she thought “Comprehensive Immigration Reform” amnesty was a good idea.

She either ignored or failed to read about the poll conducted in her home state of New York by the Siena (College) Research Institute that showed 72% of her state’s voters rejected the licenses for illegals plan described in the Queens Courier on October 18, 2007.

Her campaign did notice a November 6 national poll conducted by Rasmussen Reports that found 77% of all American adults opposed licenses for illegal aliens including 68% of Democrats and 75% of those not affiliated with either major political party.

This information sent Hillary after Governor Spitzer to ask him to back away from his unpopular plan because she knew it would cost her the Presidency since she had come out in support of it at the Drexel University debate! The obvious thing about this part of the story is that Clinton asked Spitzer to back off of the plan until after the elections, not for good.

Then, she tried to reverse her stance during the November 15, 2007 CNN Debates. When asked if she supported licenses for illegal aliens she simply said “No”.

So there you have it folks! If you are part of the 77% of Americans opposed to licenses for illegal aliens, you know that Hillary thinks it is a “smart idea” but she is willing to lie to you about it in order to win the election. If you are part of the 15% of Americans that support licenses for illegal aliens then Hillary just damaged your cause while showing she is willing to lie to America about her true stance.

Most of the Democratic candidates, especially Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, are spouting that they are for Comprehensive Immigration Reform, an amnesty that would put most illegal aliens in the US on a path to licenses and citizenship!

Did these candidates and their staff miss the stellar plunges that the supporters of those radical plans took?

John McCain will never be President because he fell from 1st place to 4th or 5th in the GOP field after supporting Comprehensive Immigration Reform Amnesty.

Rasmussen Reports polling found that only 16% of Americans believed the Comprehensive Immigration Reform bills would decrease illegal immigration. Attempts to pass this legislation and the similar Dream Act Amnesty failed four times in 2007 with angry calls coming into Senate offices 50 to 1 against the act. The call volume was so heavy that it actually overloaded and shut down the capitol phone systems!

McCain’s support levels in the Republican primary fell like a brick to only 10% of Republican voters nationwide. The Arizona Star reported (5/22/2—7) that angry Republican voters were storming into the GOP state headquarters and tearing up their voter registration cards! By mid June, McCain was being called a ‘Traitor’ by voters during regular campaign stops and while approval ratings in his home state fell to historic lows!

Immediately following McCain’s coalition effort to pass Comprehensive Immigration Reform with Senator Ted Kennedy, the Republican National Committee (RNC) had to fire their phone telemarketers because they could not raise enough funds from the enraged Republican base that is in a state of revolt against the legislation.

Within a few weeks, McCain’s fundraising plummeted and he started to lay off staff. This generated speculation he might have enough sense to pull out of the race all together.

McCain’s co-conspirators in Washington did not fare well either.

Senator Harry Reid (D-NV) was the main front man pushing the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Bills. His approval ratings fell to only 19%! Senator Graham’s numbers fell in South Carolina as well.
Then the bottom fell out.

In the middle of the debate of Comprehensive Immigration Reform, Congress’s approval ratings fell to a historic low of 14% according to Gallup polls! Bush’s numbers fell to the lowest level of his Presidency into the 20’s. Rasmussen Reports tied the collapse of McCain and Bush’s approval numbers to their unpopular support of “Comprehensive Immigration Reform” amnesty!

The final blow to the legislation came on June 21, when the media reported the latest Zogby poll numbers that only 9% of Americans approved of how the President was handling immigration issues and only 3% approved of how Congress was handling it. While these low numbers included some supporters of Amnesty that were not happy with the legislative package, the focuses of the President and Senate at the time of these readings were in favor of Comprehensive Immigration reform. As an experienced campaign consultant, I can tell you that readings like this are both historic and unprecedented!

So now we have a slate of Democratic Presidential candidates proclaiming their love of Comprehensive Immigration Reform Amnesty as well as several Republicans.

And why would they support legislation that only has less than 20% support from the American public instead of supporting attrition enforcement measures that show 70-80% public support? It is because special interest groups, including the US Chamber of Commerce Political Action Committees that provide the vast majority of funds needed to run and win for President, support the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Amnesty and Open Borders Agenda.

These global corporations are making a lot of money off the sellout of America. In fact, many believe it is their influence over the Bush administration that has led to the non-enforcement and under enforcement of our existing immigration laws. We may be looking at the biggest corporate and political scandal in American history. Many of us envision a future where those responsible for this crisis are investigated, prosecuted, and put on public trial for what they have done to our nation and the founding principles of our country.

Will America remain the land of the self governed or will this radical Open Borders minority win?

The answer depends on two important factors. One, how many Americans will seek to determine which candidates support this radical agenda and to shout about it from the rooftops from now to Election Day to warn our fellow countrymen. Two, which candidates will truthfully support our existing immigration laws that would greatly reduce the number of illegal aliens in America if enforced over a period of years?

Will elite global corporations be the rulers of America or will the American public run the show?

The future is yours to decide.

William Gheen is the President of ALIPAC, Americans for Legal Immigration PAC, found on the web at http://www.alipac.us ALIPAC seeks to work with and represent the 80% of Americans of every race, denomination, and political party that consistently indicate they want enforcement of our existing immigration laws. Gheen is also a veteran campaign consultant with over 44 campaigns of experience for both Democrat and Republican candidates in North Carolina.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 11:11 am    Post subject: Illegal Aliens Reply with quote

Did anyone watch Rick Sanchez last night? He did a show from Ellis Island as well as a feature on his family. This man is not a journalist and should be fired.
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larry124music, WELCOME aboard!!!!!

Didn't see it, but I''ll see if I can find a link to it.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did a check tonight to see how far this article traveled via our AAN (ALIPAC Action Network)

Almost 1,000 websites carry a copy now!

Absolutely awesome!

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