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Governor Huckabee Says No Amnesty…De Facto Or Otherwise
Children Born Of Illegal Aliens No Longer U.S. Citizens Under Huckabee Plan
By Perry Emerson
Presidential candidate and former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee met in private Friday to hear pleas from Minuteman Project founder and president Jim Gilchrist regarding presidential pardons for imprisoned U.S. Border Patrol agents Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean.
Gilchrist joined the governor for a three-day, multi-city stumping campaign around Des Moines, Iowa last week.
“If elected president I would instantly begin a review of the facts and circumstances surrounding the agents’ cases,” the Governor told Gilchrist. “If only half of what I have learned of their situation is true, then it would appear they were ‘railroaded’. Their trials and convictions appear absurd”.
Although Mike Huckabee granted 1,033 pardons from a stack of over 8,700 requests during his ten and one-half-year tenure as Governor of Arkansas, he also carried out 16 death sentences against convicted murderers.
“I would make it my first act as president to pardon agents Ramos and Compean,” he said. “I regret that they have spent yet another Christmas locked up in a window-less cell like animals and unable to be free and with their families.”
Gilchrist also asked Governor Huckabee for a clear and concise statement explaining his stand on the repatriation provisions of his nine-point Save America Plan. The plan, designed to bring an expedient and orderly resolution to the illegal alien invasion crisis, was published on the Huckabee web site in November, 2007. www.mikehuckabee.com
“Under no circumstances,” Huckabee said, “should my repatriation plan, requiring all illegal aliens to return to their homelands within 120 days or face criminal expulsion, be misconstrued as a “touchback amnesty”.
Huckabee claims some persons have incorrectly portrayed his “no amnesty…mandatory repatriation to homeland” provision as part of a defunct House Bill introduced by Mike Pence (R- Ind.) over a year ago. “The Pence Bill has no relevance to my plan,” he added.
“Illegal aliens must go to the back of the line, in their country of origin, and start any immigration process legally,” he told Gilchrist. “There will be no ‘touchback’ and no amnesty”.
“We must modernize our immigration process for valid, legal immigrants to be more expeditiously vetted so they can become U.S. citizens within a reasonable time,” the Governor said, alluring to the fact that many ‘legal’ immigrants who have gone through the immigration system still wait eight or more years to be granted U.S. citizenship.
Gilchrist also queried the governor on how he would deal with the confusion caused by what many Americans feel is a misinterpretation of the Fourteenth Amendment regarding the granting of citizenship to the children of illegal aliens who are born in the United States.
“Americans want a precise definition of that amendment, Governor,” Gilchrist said. “It is a source of national anger, especially among U.S. citizen moms and dads.”
According to Gilchrist, Governor Huckabee proposed three immediate possibilities for resolving the confusion over the Fourteenth Amendment:
1. Encourage a U. S. Supreme Court review of the current interpretation of that amendment.
2. Encourage Congress to introduce an amendment to the Constitution (a 28th Amendment) to clearly define citizenship to exclude children born of illegal aliens in the United States.
3. Rely on the Huckabee repatriation plan that would no longer allow illegal aliens to reside in the United States.
“Mr. Huckabee suggested that it might take all three of these solutions, operating concurrently, to reach a final resolution to the issue posed by the decades-long vague interpretation of the 14th Amendment”, Gilchrist said.
Perry Emerson, for Jim Gilchrist
This is not coming from the press.
I want to know
1. Who the hell is Perry Emerson?
2. Is there any evidence in the media or on Huckabee's website that indicates this information is true and valid?
Need fast action on this folks.
W _________________ Vox populi vox Dei
Ad majorem Dei gloriam
Last edited by ALIPAC on Tue Jan 15, 2008 1:07 am; edited 3 times in total
Governor Huckabee Says No Amnesty…De Facto Or Otherwise
Children Born Of Illegal Aliens No Longer U.S. Citizens Under Huckabee Plan
By Perry Emerson
Presidential candidate and former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee met in private Friday to hear pleas from Minuteman Project founder and president Jim Gilchrist regarding presidential pardons for imprisoned U.S. Border Patrol agents Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean.
Gilchrist joined the governor for a three-day, multi-city stumping campaign around Des Moines, Iowa last week.
“If elected president I would instantly begin a review of the facts and circumstances surrounding the agents’ cases,” the Governor told Gilchrist. “If only half of what I have learned of their situation is true, then it would appear they were ‘railroaded’. Their trials and convictions appear absurd”.
Although Mike Huckabee granted 1,033 pardons from a stack of over 8,700 requests during his ten and one-half-year tenure as Governor of Arkansas, he also carried out 16 death sentences against convicted murderers.
“I would make it my first act as president to pardon agents Ramos and Compean,” he said. “I regret that they have spent yet another Christmas locked up in a window-less cell like animals and unable to be free and with their families.”
Gilchrist also asked Governor Huckabee for a clear and concise statement explaining his stand on the repatriation provisions of his nine-point Save America Plan. The plan, designed to bring an expedient and orderly resolution to the illegal alien invasion crisis, was published on the Huckabee web site in November, 2007. www.mikehuckabee.com
“Under no circumstances,” Huckabee said, “should my repatriation plan, requiring all illegal aliens to return to their homelands within 120 days or face criminal expulsion, be misconstrued as a “touchback amnesty”.
Huckabee claims some persons have incorrectly portrayed his “no amnesty…mandatory repatriation to homeland” provision as part of a defunct House Bill introduced by Mike Pence (R- Ind.) over a year ago. “The Pence Bill has no relevance to my plan,” he added.
“Illegal aliens must go to the back of the line, in their country of origin, and start any immigration process legally,” he told Gilchrist. “There will be no ‘touchback’ and no amnesty”.
“We must modernize our immigration process for valid, legal immigrants to be more expeditiously vetted so they can become U.S. citizens within a reasonable time,” the Governor said, alluring to the fact that many ‘legal’ immigrants who have gone through the immigration system still wait eight or more years to be granted U.S. citizenship.
Gilchrist also queried the governor on how he would deal with the confusion caused by what many Americans feel is a misinterpretation of the Fourteenth Amendment regarding the granting of citizenship to the children of illegal aliens who are born in the United States.
“Americans want a precise definition of that amendment, Governor,” Gilchrist said. “It is a source of national anger, especially among U.S. citizen moms and dads.”
According to Gilchrist, Governor Huckabee proposed three immediate possibilities for resolving the confusion over the Fourteenth Amendment:
1. Encourage a U. S. Supreme Court review of the current interpretation of that amendment.
2. Encourage Congress to introduce an amendment to the Constitution (a 28th Amendment) to clearly define citizenship to exclude children born of illegal aliens in the United States.
3. Rely on the Huckabee repatriation plan that would no longer allow illegal aliens to reside in the United States.
“Mr. Huckabee suggested that it might take all three of these solutions, operating concurrently, to reach a final resolution to the issue posed by the decades-long vague interpretation of the 14th Amendment”, Gilchrist said.
Perry Emerson, for Jim Gilchrist
This is not coming from the press.
I want to know
1. Who the hell is Perry Emerson?
2. Is there any evidence in the media or on Huckabee's website that indicates this information is true and valid?
Need fast action on this folks.
W
I am NOT seeing it anywhere on his site.
Keep in mind.....Huckabee is supposed to be on Jay Leno tonight----he will probably use this on the show!!!
"Quickly vetted." Is he kidding? Quick vetting - identity verification, document searches, background checks, medical inquiries - from foreign nations.
Many do wait extremely long periods, but we are so generous in how many people that we do allow to enter legally every year.
He must be speaking of that "credit card" time frame (a few hours or days) he talks about when referring to entering and applying for citizenship.
Mr. Huckabee's campaign must be realizing the toll that our efforts are making and can continue to make on the issue of illegal immigration when combined with Mr. Huckabee's record on illegal immigration while governor.
Psalm 139:14
Last edited by GeorgiaPeach on Wed Jan 02, 2008 9:45 pm; edited 1 time in total
Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 9:44 pm Post subject: Funny... Ha Ha
He really is stretching it. Actually, I believe any of the candidates on the republican side is probably going to say (or had better say) that they'll pardon the border agents.
As for the rest of it, I think this is Huckabee's way of waving his little white flag.
He's running 4th in New Hampshire. He knows he needs a win in Iowa for money to move up. He's got the most to win & lose in Iowa. He NEEDS Iowa.
Romney is in good shape either way for now. He's tied for 1st with McCain in New Hampshire. Who knew McCain would still be viable at this point?
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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 9:53 pm Post subject:
I just spoke with a campaign aide in Iowa that confirms the Gilchrist e-mail.
The pardon quote, the touchback clarification and the 14th Amendment quote. _________________ The lesser of evils is STILL evil...
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Watching like a HAWK!
According to Gilchrist, Governor Huckabee proposed three immediate possibilities for resolving the confusion over the Fourteenth Amendment:
1. Encourage a U. S. Supreme Court review of the current interpretation of that amendment. He can only "encourage" a U.S. Supreme Court ...
2. Encourage Congress to introduce an amendment to the Constitution (a 28th Amendment) to clearly define citizenship to exclude children born of illegal aliens in the United States. He can only "encourage" Congress ...
3. Rely on the Huckabee repatriation plan that would no longer allow illegal aliens to reside in the United States.
“Mr. Huckabee suggested that it might take all three of these solutions, operating concurrently, to reach a final resolution to the issue posed by the decades-long vague interpretation of the 14th Amendment”, Gilchrist said. "Might"; "ALL three of these solutions operating concurrently, to reach a final resolution" Too many ifs and buts for me to believe this hogwash.
2. Encourage Congress to introduce an amendment to the Constitution (a 28th Amendment) to clearly define citizenship to exclude children born of illegal aliens in the United States.
A Constitutional Ammendment can only happen via the states constitutional convention AFTER congress proposes it:
The Proposed Amendment to the Constitution.
The fifth article of the Constitution of the United States prescribes two modes in which amendments may be made to it. The first and simplest of these declares that, whenever two-thirds of both Houses of Congress shall deem it necessary, amendments may be submitted to the action of the States, and if the Legislatures or Conventions of three-fourths of the States approve the proposed amendments, they become parts of the Constitution. http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9403E1DB133FEE34BC4E52DFB566838A679FDE
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I just spoke with a campaign aide in Iowa that confirms the Gilchrist e-mail.
The pardon quote, the touchback clarification and the 14th Amendment quote.
I spoke with campaign staff too and it appears the young volunteers are trying to tell people whatever they want to hear.
They could not direct me to one written document or bit of evidence backing the claim that Huckster said one of his first acts as President would be to pardon Ramos and Compean.
Huckabee has said he would like the case reviewed, but it appears the words we are hearing are Gilchrist's and not Huckabee's.
W _________________ Vox populi vox Dei
Ad majorem Dei gloriam
Joined: Jun 06, 2007 Posts: 529 Location: mexifornia
Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 10:34 pm Post subject:
This is a copy of the email I recieved from Immigration Watchdog concerning Jim Gilchrist:
02
01
2008
A Disgusting Email From Jim Gilchrist
Posted by: The Watchdog in Viewer Mail
You may have heard me talk about the vicious attack emails that Jim Gilchrist sends out to other patriots, but I’ve never posted them on my website. Well here’s an email (screenshot) I received today. This is typical Jim Gilchrist. The man is a real whack job and will stoop to the lowest possible level to defame others. No lie is too big for little Jimbo.
This fraud has been defaming the board members of the Minuteman Project ever since the alleged embezzlement of $600,000 from the MMP bank account.
I guess little Jimbo saw the video I made about him and his endorsement of pro-amnesty presidential candidate Mike Huckabee. He’s trying to intimidate me into not talking about him on Immigration Watchdog or making any more videos exposing him.
I encourage you all to send Jim Gilchrist an email telling him how you feel. Here is his email address.
I have been hearing on the blogs, over the telephone, and through emails that you are a pedophile, Brook. Will that accusation also reach the news media soon? Have you ever been arrested, or even investigated for molesting little boys and girls? But, that really doesn’t matter. Obviously you are guilty because someone merely says you are a pedophile…and a thief…and a woman beater, right? No one would just make that up out of hateful wrath, would they? So, I guess it is all true and I should warn America how depraved you are as soon as possible. Yep, spread the news far and wide.
Brook is a low-life heap of breathing garbage that molests children, steals, embezzles, and beats women. A typical delusional social maladroit just waiting to be arrested and put in the slammer for 30 years.
But, are you really guilty of such horrible crimes? If the blogs and emails say so, then aren’t you guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt? How many little three-year-old boys and girls do you have chained up in your attic?
Keep up your stupidity in driving a chasm between all the minutemen groups and you will certainly have Hillary, Obama, McCain or Giuliani as your next president.
I had a great chat with Ron Paul in Des Moines last Thursday. I could have told him about your criminal activities, but, because there is no convincing proof, I chose not to bring that up. Ron Paul is a dignified patriot. Stop embarrassing him, you traitor.
Now you know how it feels to be innocently hung.
You are not only dumb; you are an idiot who surely gets his life’s philosophy from the National Enquirer.
Touche.
Cheers,
Jim Gilchrist, BAJ, BSBA, MBA, CPA - Founder and President
Jim Gilchrist’s MINUTEMAN PROJECT, INC. (DBA The Minuteman Project)
- A multi-ethnic, immigration law enforcement advocacy group.
- Operating within the law to support enforcement of the law.
- The power of change through the power of peace.
MAILING ADDRESS FOR CORRESPONDENCE AND DONATIONS:
JIM GILCHRIST’S MINUTEMAN PROJECT, INC.
DBA “THE MINUTEMAN PROJECT”
JIM GILCHRIST, PRESIDENT
P.O. BOX 3944
LAGUNA HILLS, CA. 92654-3944
UPDATE!
Little Jimbo responds with more threats!
(screenshot)
Brook,
You just invited yourself to be named as a defendant in a malicious defamation law suit. Retract your malicious claims of embezzlement now. You know very well that your claims are malicious lies and your emails and web site certainly support that.
CC: Counsels: Mailly Law Group, Brown Law Firm
Cheers,
Jim Gilchrist, BAJ, BSBA, MBA, CPA - Founder and President
Jim Gilchrist’s MINUTEMAN PROJECT, INC. (DBA The Minuteman Project)
- A multi-ethnic, immigration law enforcement advocacy group.
- Operating within the law to support enforcement of the law.
- The power of change through the power of peace.
MAILING ADDRESS FOR CORRESPONDENCE AND DONATIONS:
JIM GILCHRIST’S MINUTEMAN PROJECT, INC.
DBA “THE MINUTEMAN PROJECT”
JIM GILCHRIST, PRESIDENT
P.O. BOX 3944
LAGUNA HILLS, CA. 92654-3944
I am surprised you are still on Gilchrist's e-mail list William.
Ive asked to be removed four times and he refuses. Also, several other leaders have asked to be removed and one wrote back tonight they are going tto the law for help since he will not honor their request.
W _________________ Vox populi vox Dei
Ad majorem Dei gloriam
Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:02 pm Post subject: da Huckster?????
IF the Huckster swears on his 1st born child to :
A) Pardon our Border GUARDS(!) Ramos and Compean.
and,
B) issue an Executive Order ending any confusion that AMERICAN -Birth- (Anchor Baby) CITIZENSHIP is only applicable when at least one of the parents is a LEGAL AMERICAN CITIZEN.
C. Completely Enforce the USA Immigration & Employment laws and thus repatriate/self-deport all ILLEGALs via attrition......
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