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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 4:52 am    Post subject: Hispanic web puts down ALIPAC and takes shots a William Reply with quote

This is kind of a "sequel" to "Handbanans" topic. except every topic is directed at ALIPAC

http://www.hispanicbusiness.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8275
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They say they’re not anti-Hispanic or anti-immigrant but anti-ILLEGAL immigrant. That’s not true for many of them. Every now and then I'll surf the net and note something that these people comment. They claim that they are merely anti-illegal immigrant, and they stress the illegal part. They claim that they have nothing against legal immigrants and Hispanic and Latino people. But that's not the case.

Not only are they against illegal immigrants, but they are against Latinos, Mexico, Hispanics and anyone who doesn't hate these people. Below are just a few examples. I got most of the material from ALIPAC because I'm lazy, and ALIPAC is just overflowing with good examples.

http://www.alipac.us/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=40658
Here a bunch of participants lament the fact that Betty Crocker includes directions in Spanish with their products. They say they only object to illegal aliens and that they do not object to Hispanics or legal immigrants. This thread shows just how absurd that claim is. In reality, they just don't like Hispanic people or the Spanish language.

http://www.alipac.us/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=36479&highlight=penny
Here's a thread about some nit-wit who was offended by people in a department store speaking Spanish and by the overhead radio playing music in the Spanish language. Even William Gheen, president of ALIPAC, chimes in to suggest that she should have complained to management. He suggests that she not go back to the store again until the Spanish is removed from the PA system.

I can only imagine this person marching into the manager's office and saying she'll never return until they remove the Spanish from the PA system. You'd never seen a store manager so happy. Break open a couple of bottles of Inca Cola and crank up the Juan Luis Guerra because that idiot ain't comin' back.

http://www.alipac.us/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=38176&highlight=spanish+radio
Here's another thread where low-foreheads complain about Spanish language music in a shoe store. Why does the Spanish language bother some people so much?

http://www.alipac.us/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=35684&highlight=outback+steakhouse
Here's a guy who was so upset about seeing brown skinned persons working at a restaurant that he wrote a letter to the manager. Basically, he saw men with brown skin, and with no additional evidence, he just assumed they were engaged in law breaking activity. Will someone please tell me whether this guy is merely anti-illegal immigrant or does he just not like Hispanic people? Otherwise please explain to me why this guy has an objection to men with brown skin working for a living?

Can you imagine being a restaurant manager and getting a letter from someone like this? What would a manager think? Would they laugh? Or would they be concerned?

http://www.alipac.us/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=38780
Here some geniuses object to the Home Shopping Channel being in Spanish. They assume that the customers are not likely to pay their bills simply because they speak Spanish. This is based on nothing other than that the customers will be Spanish speaking persons. Is this starting to get you angry?

http://www.alipac.us/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=40316
Here some pinheads found an online poll, and they discuss how they intentionally tried to manipulate the poll results. The next time you hear about a poll saying that X% percent of people support this or that, remember this.

http://www.alipac.us/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=41625
Here a chump objects to Dominos Pizza printing coupons in Spanish. He describes how he contacts the chain's headquarters to tell them that he will no longer be ordering Dominos pizza.

If these idiots keep their promises to not transact with companies that advertise in Spanish or have Spanish speaking or brown skinned workers, then they'll be eating nothing but bugs and grass from their backyard.

http://www.alipac.us/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=41672
Here is a patriot objecting to Mexican style food being served in Appleby's restaurant. Notice how they don't complain about Thai food or Italian food being served. No. The only objection is to Mexican style food being served.

Are these people merely against illegal immigration as they claim or do they just plain hate Mexicans? We report. You decide.

http://www.alipac.us/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=42813
Here is someone objecting to General Mills marketing a product in Spanish. One guy writes, "These companies do not no [sic] the word 'loyal'..." That's pretty funny.

http://www.alipac.us/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=43056
This is just an example of how dumb these idiots are. The nit wit deleted his original comments, but I'll tell you what he said. He walks into a convenience store and sees a fellow idiot buying Miller Beer. The anti-Hispanic movement is currently boycotting Miller Beer http://www.millerboycott.com/ so idiot #1 tells idiot #2 that Miller supports illegal immigrants and that he should buy another type of beer. Idiot #2 puts down the Miller and picks up a 12-pack of Ice House. The original post now deleted included a picture of idiot #2 holding his case of Ice House and flashing a smile revealing rotting teeth and pyorrhea ridden gums meanwhile giving the finger to a six pack of Miller Beer.

Ice House is made by the Miller Brewing Company.

By the way, the stock of SAB Miller is higher now than it was when they started the boycott.

http://www.alipac.us/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=43433
The National Football League is trying to develop an audience of Latinos. It even has a website NFLatino.com These *****s object to this. What's more American than football except General Mills cereal and Betty Crocker? But these people hate Hispanic people so much that they object to their assimilation into society. They even don't want Spanish speaking people to be introduced to American football.

http://www.alipac.us/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=45076
Here's another case where a guy objects to men with brown skin working in a restaurant. He also assumes, based on no other information than their appearance and the language they are speaking, that they are law breakers, and he contemplates calling authorities to report them.

That's not all. That's not the worst. Something scary is the threats of violence. The moderators of ALIPAC want to keep this out of public view, and they will delete any comment that suggests violence. There have been many. Some people talk about wanting to shoot people trying to cross the border. Others suggest land mines. Still others think that a civil war in this country is inevitable and recommend that the anti-Hispanic movement take up arms.

These are just some examples I found from light surfing one website.

I want to highlight that just because one or many of these people think this way, that doesn't mean that they ALL think that way. There are many in the anti-immigrant community who are probably good hearted, reasonably intelligent people who are just ignorant or are being deceived by the hatred and the lies that these other evil people spread.

Final Thoughts

Have you ever heard about someone being upset by having to press "1" for English? Every now and then some buffoon with Pamela Anderson as his avatar will write a rant about that. The comfort that we have is this: if these idiots get so upset about something so insignificant as having to press a button with one of their fingers, then you know that there ain't nothin' that won't bother them. They must be the most miserable people in the world if they get their panties all in a bunch over something so insignificant.

I've met a lot of immigrants, and I've generally found them to be pretty cool people. My block has people from India, Viet Nam, Bahamas, Africa, Mexico and Central America. I've met immigrants from Nepal, Portugal, China, Thailand, Burma, Korea, Canada, England, Cambodia, and people from all over the Americas. They come here with bright eyes. This is the land of opportunity. This is a place where you can work and live in peace and achieve the American dream. It's a happy place. People are optimistic when they cross that border or get off that plane.

By and large they're happy people. They're optimistic. They expect good things to happen. When they see an American their eyes light up, and they're willing to meet and greet and make friends.

But something is happening in this country. Hateful people are spreading lies http://www.breakpoint.org/listingarticle.asp?ID=2438 and propaganda http://www.amazon.com/State-Emergency-Invasion-Conquest-America/dp/0312360037/sr=8-/qid=1162308291/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-6966986-4823121?ie=UTF8&s=books , and ignorant people are taking it in. A cauldron of hate is brewing, and a lot of people are sensing it. Minute Men are on the street protesting people with brown skin who are only looking for work. Cities passing laws that prohibit renting rooms to certain people. Several Mexican men were murdered a few months ago. These people were more upset that the Mexican flag was flown than they were about the murders of fathers, brothers, sons, loved ones. You know what I'm talking about. I don't need to describe it any further.

This is disturbing, and it is polarizing our communities. As a white guy, Latinos used to like me. For some reason they liked having a white guy as a friend. Senoritas seemed to be attracted to me. But nowadays it's a lot different. Some of the people are not as friendly. They're more wary than anything else. Senoritas don't seem to be as attracted to me anymore either. That really hurts.

UPDATE: Here's a new one:
http://www.alipac.us/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=47019
a guy says that he refuses to buy products that have the Spanish language on the package and that when he finds such a product he writes a nasty e-mail. One guy refers to Spanish speaking people as "invaders" nevermind that the majority of people who use the Spanish language are here legally or are citizens. Another guy gets upset that a portion of donations to the Literacy Fund might benefit Hispanics. Another guy bought some candy and threw it out after having noticed that it was made in Mexico. It goes on and on.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 5:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

link to where this came from please.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 5:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

so what is the link to that webblog Very Happy



Yes - His Failure To Secure Borders Is Treason



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 5:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It`s linked now
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 5:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mkfarnam,

Thank your for this delightful smear piece you found about me.

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http://www.alipac.us/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=40316
Here some pinheads found an online poll, and they discuss how they intentionally tried to manipulate the poll results. The next time you hear about a poll saying that X% percent of people support this or that, remember this.
Laughing Laughing Laughing Excuse me but that is pinhead, not pinheads because I am the person (singular) that found this.

What is wrong with members of Alipac taking an online poll?

I will tell you why they are upset about this. It's because the poll is in Spanish and people of Alipac are not allowed to take polls that are in Spanish. Those polls are exclusively for "their people" only. Do they have issue with English speakers and bilinguals now? Wonder why that is? It’s because we are not members of the Raza.

I would consider that racist!

Also, did you notice how they de-humanized everyone they disagreed with? We are no longer worthy of being considered human beings and having a human persona. Instead we have become menial objects, to be insulted. That speaks volumes about this person's attitude towards Americans, which want to enforce the rule of law.

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That's not all. That's not the worst. Something scary is the threats of violence. The moderators of ALIPAC want to keep this out of public view, and they will delete any comment that suggests violence. There have been many. Some people talk about wanting to shoot people trying to cross the border. Others suggest land mines. Still others think that a civil war in this country is inevitable and recommend that the anti-Hispanic movement take up arms.
Sure, we have trolls from time to time that come to Alipac trying to smear our good reputation. That person gets banned because we have strict rules about violence. It's nice that someone noticed the good job the Moderators have been doing.

Dixie

PS I think I'm going to find some more polls in Spanish!
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 5:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just registered to their site (undercover troll Razz ) user name: (i forgot)
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mkfarnam wrote:
I just registered to their site (undercover troll Razz ) user name: " Question Question Question " Cool

genius...... and now they now Smile

I will not go undercover. I man stands, or falls. I choose to stand. Know me "hispanic businesses" a clever name which seems to have nothing to do with business, but more with the business of assocciating all illegal aliens with one race. I am offended by your website and how you treat others.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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. I am offended by your website and how you treat others.


I hope that not aim toward me.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mkfarnam wrote:
dragon5 Wrote:
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. I am offended by your website and how you treat others.

I hope that not aim toward me.

I'm sure dragons5 was addressing the Hispanic Business website.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It appears old Buford does not like Americans and has given some ALIPAC members nice little nick names. low-foreheads, pinheads, chump ,idiots and the rest, well"just ignorant or are being deceived".
I didn't qualify this time for one of Old Buford's handles maybe he's saving me for his next lecture of enlightenment.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mkfarnam wrote:
dragon5 Wrote:
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. I am offended by your website and how you treat others.


I hope that not aim toward me.

yes dixie it is.

notice how they dismiss all of my post and ignore every single, highly valid point.

Their contact information.

Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
Hispanic Business, Inc.
admin@hbinc.com
425 Pine Ave
Santa Barbara, CA 93117
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(805) 964-4554 fax: (805) 964-5539
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, technically, the word business can mean several things. In their case, "hispanic business" probably means anything relating to furthering their raza agenda. Or objecting to Americans objecting to them not assimilating and shoving their culture down our throats.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That Tony Cheek character over there makes me sick. That man is so racial sensitive it is pathetic.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Here a bunch of participants lament the fact that Betty Crocker includes directions in Spanish with their products. They say they only object to illegal aliens and that they do not object to Hispanics or legal immigrants. This thread shows just how absurd that claim is. In reality, they just don't like Hispanic people or the Spanish language.


Why is it that only spanish speakers demand that America cater to their "language" needs? And why is it that LEGAL Laotian & Hmong immigrants, who are NOT afforded such language accomodations (let alone Betty Crocker instructions in their language) are typically able to speak conversational english within 3 years?

What hypocrites.....


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GFC wrote:
That Tony Cheek character over there makes me sick. That man is so racial sensitive it is pathetic.
Is he an Americanophobe? Yes, that's a Dixieism.

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I've already notified Telemundo to let them know these people manipulate polls. I asked them to make sure to publicize this. That way they can point out why those polls that say Americans are against legalization and "Amnesty" are probably manipulated by these freaks. Don't worry, I already ran copies for this, saved an offline version and have sent them the information before these "goons" decide to delete the evidence.


Manipulate polls??? The fact is, people go vote. You are allowed one vote. The fact that someone posts a poll is hardly evidence of manipulation. I'm sure the other side does the same thing. How about the Dobbs polls??? That is CNN, the LIBERAL network, why does the polls all reflect anti-illegal sentiments? These people give us WAY too much credit, but I appreciate it......I guess, little ole Alipac has somehow manipulated all the thousands of polls that have reflected that Americans are fed-up with illegals. I guess they don't want us voting, huh? Maybe they should try voting instead of complaining about us voting. I love the "freak" name.....shows that they just can't stand what Alipac is doing, and now suddenly all of us become "freaks." Makes me feel all "warm and fuzzy." Laughing


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http://www.alipac.us/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=40316&start=0

Here's the poll they are having a cow about. Everyone please go vote NO!

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Hay espacio para más inmigrantes en Estados Unidos?

Selección Votos Porcentaje de 1693 Votos

Sí, pero no por muchos años más 96 6%

No, ya se ha acabado el espacio 731 43%

Sí, hay mucho territorio y muchas oportunidades 866 51%
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Well, the good thing about these observations is that it lets all of our ALIPAC activists know exactly how much these racist flakes are watching us and how they will eagerly pounce on anything they think they can twist to their advantage.

We also know where each of you can go visit for Open Border Lobby troll practice anytime you want to increase your "training" and go toe to toe with the gamut of illegal alien supporters.

We have so many more activists and traffic on our boards, perhaps we should turn HB into and ALIPAC training ground?

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It`s kind of funny their site language is "English"
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still the no's are coming up.

Selección Votos Porcentaje de 1728 Votos
Sí, pero no por muchos años más 96 6%
No, ya se ha acabado el espacio 763 44%
Sí, hay mucho territorio y muchas oportunidades 869 50%
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gingerurp wrote:
Well, technically, the word business can mean several things. In their case, "hispanic business" probably means anything relating to furthering their raza agenda. Or objecting to Americans objecting to them not assimilating and shoving their culture down our throats.

http://www.hispanicbusiness.com/forum/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=9
Their "business" section on the forums is mostly about the landscaping/lawn care industry, money making scams, home loans for illegals and the rest is pretty much spam.
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It's very interesting that he doesn't post all of the news stories about the rapes, murders and fatal drunk driving accidents by illegals that are about 50% of our posts.
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Maybe we should post them over there
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Maybe we should post them over there

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