CALLING ALL ALIPAC MEMBERS TO ACTION

PintoBean

I've been spending some time on the Gather Board folling the illegal immigration debate. The Pro-Illegal Side has sunk to NEW LOWS, and attacked ALIPAC this morning...thread link is posted below.

Some history on the poster...keep in mind, the conversation is more heated there, as Gather is pretty much a, let the chips fall where there may board when it comes to moderation, so people on both sides come in with some serious BARBS....that being said, the poster in Question has admitted she fell in love with, married and has three children with and illegal alien. She has further admitted, that many of her husbands relatives are here illegally. Is there any doubt why she beats those of us on the Pro Enforcement side over the head? Also, though not posted here, there is a post on Raising Wages and Employing Americans where she refers to us as UPPITY WHITE FOLKS.

THE ATTACK ON ALIPAC

http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.jsp?articleId=281474976798942
But nobody would dare do that, right? Why? Because it's become acceptable to discriminate against Mexican people in lieu of black people. The Mexicans *are* the new black people and groups like ALIPAC, et all *are* the new KKK and Aryan nation.
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Newmexican · ALIPAC Super Hero Joined: May 26, 2005 Posts: 3566

William,
That is Senobia Torres.
She came to ALIPAC from the Texas radio station blog. She was banned at ALIPAC several months ago. Pine might remember her user name.
Not to be taken seriously.

CCUSA · Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 12:21 pm Post subject:

Just gave her a piece of my mind. Hope everyone else does too.

We don't advocate racism, and I don't know where she go that quote, and she won't name it's souce. This person she's quoting is not a member of ALIPAC.

The woman seems to be a racis propagandist who want to drumb up support and PITY for her illegal husband and his illegal family living in the US.

Newmexican · ALIPAC Super Hero Joined: May 26, 2005 Posts: 3566

The radio blog is
http://talk.kfdm.com/index.php

Immigration forum for the blog

http://talk.kfdm.com/viewforum.php?f=14&sid=4b0c7483c55f852fc7e8b13c15c8daa5

CCUSA · Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 12:32 pm Post subject:

I wrote on her blog:

As far as calling ALIPAC a racist organization and KKK I think you need to be educated to fact that it is anything but racist! We have members who are black, white, brown, and any other color under the sun. ALIPAC does not allow that kind of conversation on the board. We are against illegal immigration and the negative effects it has on education, healthcare costs, crime rates and taxes uncollected as well as the rule of law not being enforced.

As a member, I know for a fact they do not advocate violence, bigotry or racism. The quote of the individual above is racist and filled with hate. I don't no where you got it, but it has nothing to do with ALIPAC. I would say you owe us an opology!

CCUSA · Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 12:35 pm Post subject:

Sebonia blogged back at me with:

[b]CC, kindly refrain from engaging me about ALIPAC, et al. You will be offended. Thanks for your comment and understanding[/b]

Ladydrake · Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 12:38 pm Post subject:

Read some of that and ugh, that little girl is just not worth the effort.

Newmexican · ALIPAC Super Hero Joined: May 26, 2005 Posts: 3566

More on Ms. torres at
http://www.associatedcontent.com/user/6512/senobia_torres.html?contact=true

crazybird · Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 12:46 pm Post subject:

My exact thought Ladydrake. Not worth the effort.

Ladydrake · Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 12:50 pm Post subject:

Erm .... this is terrible, lol. I was glancing around at her "articles" like that bathroom for $100 or less, wedding planning tips, car buying tips .... rofl, it's all stuff that's been around for years! Laughing

None of it's original, hehehe.

Oh and her education? Oh dear.

PinestrawGuys · Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 12:51 pm Post subject:

I beat up on her at kdfm.com several months ago. She lost every argument we ever had. She is all the bad things you can think of and more. I LOVE irritating her.
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Ladydrake · Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 12:57 pm Post subject:

Must be really hard to point out how hypocritcal she is, huh? Laughing

CCUSA · Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 1:03 pm Post subject:

She's really irritated now Pinestrawguys. She just wrote:

'THIS IS NOT AN ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION ARTICLE." on the website.

Kate · Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 1:05 pm Post subject:

American_made · Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 2:20 pm Post subject:

I guess her illegal is employed full time. Making anchor babies. Another job an American would not do I guess Laughing

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Ladydrake · Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 4:40 pm Post subject:

Ok, so I posted to her. Rather than answering my question, or responding to the fact that she was being hypocritical and even lied, she went off in some other direction that had absolutely nothing to do with what I said.

Oh well.

noyoucannot · ALIPAC Titan Joined: Aug 31, 2006 Posts: 555

Someone asked her what her vision for the US was in 10 years if we just did away with immigration law and let whoever come in from wherever. What would happen to the schools, infrastructure, etc. She had no answer.

Ladydrake · Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 5:40 pm Post subject:

In one post, she stated how she could have reported people and pointed out how she was still there. Sound familiar to anyone? Laughing

Remember DeeDee?

AmericanElizabeth · Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 6:18 pm Post subject:

Was she the one who tried leaving links to all sorts of racist sites? Trying to have ALIPAC come up on a search as racist I presume and when it did not work, was just a little "miffed" when banned for the no-no?

I remember that as we all asked what was with her name and why she would not respond to us.

Yep, real intelligent girl. Sorry to see she has reproduced.
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Newmexican · ALIPAC Super Hero Joined: May 26, 2005 Posts: 3566

greyparrot · Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 9:05 pm Post subject:

She is nothing more than a serial pro-illegal poster/blogger who is shamelessly trying to portray illegality as racism, despite the fact that they are polar opposites.

Frankly, I don't know why anyone gives this poser the time of day.

AmericanElizabeth · Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 12:02 am Post subject:

I definitely did not want to waste my energies on her, I keep that for here and emailing those who can make a difference. She seems to have lost sight of that and is randomly making personal attacks on ALIPAC and it's members.

Besides it seems that Pinestrawguy and William and others handled her quite nicely!!! Way to go people!!
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PintoBean · Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 12:35 am Post subject:

For everyone who has had dealings with Senobia here, on Gather, and on other sites, you might want to take a look at this post that came up on Gather tonight.

Senobia's Truth? What is Reality? by Royce P.
http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.jsp?articleId=281474976799487
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noyoucannot · ALIPAC Titan Joined: Aug 31, 2006 Posts: 555

I've got to be honest--I usually can respect a person with a different point of view, even one with which I vehemently disagree. But, just from reading her posts, I find her to be a very rude, hateful, and arrogant person. At least that is how she comes off. She seems to have an inflated opinion of herself.

I think that given her personal circumstances, having married an illegal, she is incapable of being objective on this subject or seeing the other side of the debate. Responding to her is a waste of time and just feeds her ego. She should be ignored. Although, good job to those who didn't let her get away with slandering ALIPAC.

Personally, I think these open borders people are going to get nastier as they realize they are losing the momentum and also as they realize that their big tactic of hurling the "racist" invective at folks is losing its effectiveness; in fact, something to be joked about.

AmericanElizabeth · Posted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 3:06 am Post subject:

I think it is a shame that she came to us, spamming our site with garbage, as well used name that leaned towards being derogatory (Aryana).

All of this dysfunctional behavior happened in order to stoke her ego and help her feel better about her own rocky situation.

Everyone has skeletons in their closet, but when you start hurtling nasty remarks at the people whose opinions you oppose, then you better beware that those skeletons will be brought out into the light.

As well, when you marry someone who has broken the law by entering our country illegally, then you better be prepared for the consequences of your decisions.
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