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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:24 am    Post subject: North American Union driver's license created!!!! (ALIPAC) Reply with quote

North American Union driver's license created
Logo intended to standardize documentation across continent

Posted: September 6, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern

By Jerome R. Corsi
© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com


New security logo on the reverse of North Carolina's driver's licenses


Security and Prosperity Partnership logo

New security logo on the reverse of North Carolina's driver's licenses

The first "North American Union" driver's license, complete with a hologram of the North American continent on the reverse, has been created in the state of North Carolina.

"The North Carolina driver's license is 'North American Union' ready," charges William Gheen, who serves as president of Americans for Legal Immigration.

Gheen provided WND with a photo of an actual North Carolina license which clearly shows the hologram of the North American continent embedded on the reverse.

"The hologram looks exactly [like] the map of North America that is used as the background for the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America logo on the SPP website," Gheen told WND. "I object to the loss of sovereignty that is proceeding under the agreements being made by these unelected government bureaucrats who think we should be North American instead of the United States of America."


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"To protest, I don't plan on applying for a North Carolina driver's license," Gheen told WND, "even though I am a resident of the state. I don't see how a Division of Motor Vehicles authorized in a Department of Transportation of a state of the United States can force me to have a license place that is designed with a North American Union insignia printed on the backside."

"My decision not to get a North Carolina driver's license could have very difficult consequences for me," Gheen told WND. "Without a valid driver's license, I may not be able to drive a car, fly on an airplane, or enter a government building."

Gheen told WND he does not have a U.S. passport.


In 2005, WND reported North Carolina was the state where illegal immigrants go to get a driver's license, with busloads of aliens traveling south on I-95 to get an easy ID.

The Tar Heel State's requirements to obtain a license are weaker than those of many surrounding states.

Marge Howell, spokeswoman for the North Carolina DMV, affirmed to WND the state was embedding a hologram of North America on the back of its new driver's licenses.

"It's a security element that eventually will be on the back of every driver's license in North America," Howell told WND.

Howell explained the hologram of the North American continent was the creation of the American Association of Motor Vehicle Administrators, a tax-exempt, nonprofit organization that, according to the group's website, "develops model programs in motor vehicle administration, law enforcement and highway safety."

Founded in 1933, AAMVA represents state and provincial officials in the United States and Canada who administer and enforce motor vehicle laws. The government of Mexico is also a member, though the individual Mexican states have yet to join.

According to the group's website, AAMVA's programs are designed "to encourage uniformity and reciprocity among the states and provinces."

"The goal of the North American hologram," Howell explained, "is to get one common element that law enforcement throughout the continent can look at on all driver's licenses and tell that the driver's license is an official document."

Jason King, spokesman for AAMVA, affirmed the North American hologram was created by AAMVA's Uniform Identification Subcommittee, a working group of AAMVA members.

He explained the goal is to create a continental security device that could be used by state and provincial motor vehicles agencies throughout North America, including the United States, Canada and Mexico.

King referenced a document on the AAMVA website that describes guidelines for using the North America continent hologram as an Optical Variable Device (OVD) that AAMVA has now licensed with private manufacturers to produce.

AAMVA supplies member motor vehicle agencies with a quantity of North American continent hologram OVD foils to use on their driver's licenses and ID cards as needed.

As the guidelines document on the AAMVA explains, each North American continental hologram OVD foil is embedded with a unique set of control numbers that permit law enforcement electronic scanners to identify the exact jurisdiction and precise individual authorized to hold a driver's license or ID card with that particular OVD foil embedded.

"AAMVA understands its unique positioning and the continuing role identification security will play in helping the general public realize a safer North America," King explained to WND in an e-mail. "The association believes ID security will help increase national security, increase highway safety, reduce fraud and system abuse, increase efficiency and effectiveness, and achieve uniformity of processes and practices."

Jim Palmer, press director for ALIPAC, told WND that ALIPAC first became aware of the hologram when Missouri State Rep. Jim Guest held a seminar in North Carolina to protest the Real ID law.

"The surprise came at a meeting on the Real ID that Palmer held in Raleigh, North Carolina, on Saturday, July 28," Palmer told WND.

"When Rep. Guest asked participants to take out their driver's license and see what was on it," Palmer explained, "one gentleman was a state employee and on his license there was this hologram with the North American continent on the back. We were all surprised to see that on a North Carolina driver's license. Right there, that stopped the show."

Guest has formed a coalition called Legislators Against Real ID Act, or LARI.

"I was astonished when I saw that North American hologram on the North Carolina driver's license," Guest told WND. "I thought to myself that the state DMV has already included this North American symbol on the back of the driver's license without telling the people of North Carolina they were going to do this."

"I thought right then that this was going to be the prototype for the driver's license of the North American Union," Guest told WND.

"When we called the North Carolina DMV, they hedged at first," Guest said, "but finally they admitted that, yes, there was a North American continent hologram on the back of the license."

"This is part of a plan by bureaucrats and trade groups that act like bureaucrats to little by little transform us into a North American Union without any vote being taken and without explaining to the U.S. public what they are doing," Guest argued.

King explained AAMVA’s Uniform Identification Subcommittee created a number of task forces, including the Card Design Specification that developed the North America continent hologram OVD.

"The Task Group surveyed and met with many stakeholders during the development effort," King wrote to WND. "The Task Force gathered information from government and non-government users of the driver's License/ID card to determine their uses for the DL/ID card and how they believe the card should function. In addition, the Task Group surveyed and met with industry experts in the area of card production and security to gather their advice, especially about the physical security of the card."

King told WND the Task Group work was repeatedly reviewed by the UID Subcommittee as a whole, with final approval coming from the AAMVA Board.

In 2006, WND reported Pastor Rios Sanchez, 55, an illegal alien, was accused of killing three people, including two North Carolina State University students and a 26-year-old, while driving drunk.

"People who think the Real ID was created to keep illegal aliens from getting driver's licenses and IDs should come to North Carolina," Gheen told WND. "What the North Carolina DMV is doing is creating the basis for a continental driver's license."

"What difference does it make to North Carolina if an illegal alien gets a driver's license?" Gheen asked. "The photo on the license creates a close face scan that can be identified by face recognition technology, whether the DMV admits it or not."

"Illegal aliens who get driver's licenses are just being scanned in advance," Gheen concluded.

"Illegal aliens who get driver's licenses or IDs in North Carolina are just being prepared for their admission into the North America Union driver pool that North Carolina is at the vanguard of creating," Gheen said. "That is the truth, whether the North Carolina DMV or the AAMVA want to admit it or not."

King told WND North Carolina is the first AAMVA member jurisdiction to use the North America continent hologram on a driver's license or ID card.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=57502


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

William and Jim
Im going to send this storey on to my local news contacts for further publications.
I believe Im starting to see where this is going...
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GREGAGREATAMERICAN wrote:
William and Jim
Im going to send this storey on to my local news contacts for further publications.
I believe Im starting to see where this is going...


Thanks for spreading the word Greg.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I already have a new license that has the nc in the 4 corners logo on it, Inside world. I renewed my cdl in july. It has the hologram already.I would post a picture of the back of it for you all to see. But I don't know how.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yoy know I can't figure out why our government is so worried about tracking the USA taxpayer and citizens. While everyone illegal in our country has free run of our country!
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We need to get this article on the top of the alipac homepage with links to the images here on the boards.

I will do a write up / release about this around 12 noon and around 1pm we will email this out to our national supporter list of 25,000 people.

Ive already received two calls from talk radio shows this morning about this.

This is going to be a very hot topic.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My husband got a new NC driver's license in February,and sure enough, the hologram is there on the back.
What is scarier still, there is a number on it right above the image of North America. You can barely make it out - like they don't want you
to notice.
Has my husband received his Mark of the Beast without even knowing it?
He didn't even get a chance to refuse it!
Big Brother is here and now.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, this sure ruined my morning...

Guess I'm kinda in the same boat as William, though not totally. We moved last February and have not gotten new licenses with our updated address. At first it was just that we didn't have time, then I saw William's and jp's posts about the RFID chip, and we decided to wait. Now it looks like we'll forget it all together. Mine doesn't actually expire until 2011 so I'll just hold on and hope William's fight does some good.

You go, William, I'm behind you 100%!! We are so blessed to have a leader here with your vision and courage! Thanks to you and jp for all your great work on this!
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is EXTREMELY disturbing..first NC and then all states. Good Luck William and thank you for your great work!
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

imblest wrote:
Well, this sure ruined my morning...

Guess I'm kinda in the same boat as William, though not totally. We moved last February and have not gotten new licenses with our updated address. At first it was just that we didn't have time, then I saw William's and jp's posts about the RFID chip, and we decided to wait. Now it looks like we'll forget it all together. Mine doesn't actually expire until 2011 so I'll just hold on and hope William's fight does some good.

You go, William, I'm behind you 100%!! We are so blessed to have a leader here with your vision and courage! Thanks to you and jp for all your great work on this!



We are in this fight together. I have been sending information to my NC State rep for more than a year on the Real ID. After this article, he is a believer. Getting this out in the open is the best thing to happen for us. Now we can get others to see their plan and join with us to stop it.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want to fry the RFID, insert it into a microwave between 2 damp rags or paper towels. Only needs to be in there between 3-5 seconds. Will render the RFID useless.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:27 pm    Post subject: A LICENSE is for business purposes Reply with quote

The "driver license" is issued to people who engage in commerce using the streets and highways. A LICENSE is for business purposes. "Driving" is a privilege because it's regulated business activity. The term "traffic" is another word for "commerce". You can not be FORCED to ask your servants for permission and pay an annual rent to use your car to go to your place of worship or to the store to buy food and clothing. You have the unalienable right to travel for noncommercial household purposes to acquire the necessities of life or for your enjoyment. See your State Constitution.

A "driver" is someone who gets some form of compensation to go somewhere ie: Cab DRIVER, Tow Truck DRIVER, UPS DRIVER. These people get paid to do the act. If you don't get paid/compensated then you aren't properly identified as a "driver". Don't use the common definition, use the "legal" definition because that's the definition used by the State Legislature. Driver is someone who gets paid.

Understand what a "LICENSE" is for and you'll understand what the DMV regulates. If you don't sell liquor then you aren't REQUIRED to apply for a liquor LICENSE. If you don't sell flowers then you aren't REQUIRED to apply for a LICENSE because you're not a florist.

You aren't required to have a LICENSE for non-commercial travel.
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“The activity licensed by state DMVs and in connection with which individuals must submit personal information to the DMV - the operation of motor vehicles - is itself integrally related to interstate commerce”.
Seth Waxman, Solicitor General
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BRIEF FOR THE PETITIONERS
Reno v. Condon, No. 98-1464, decided January 12, 2000
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Title 18 United States Code Sec. 31
PART I - CRIMES
CHAPTER 2 - AIRCRAFT AND MOTOR VEHICLES
Sec. 31. Definitions

When used in this chapter the term -

''Motor vehicle'' means every description of carriage or other contrivance propelled or drawn by mechanical power and used for commercial purposes on the highways in the transportation of passengers, passengers and property, or property or cargo;

DRIVER. One employed...
Bouvier’s Law Dictionary, 1856

DRIVER-- one employed in conducting a coach, carriage, wagon, or other vehicle..."
BOUVIER'S LAW DICTIONARY, (1914) p. 940.

DRIVER. One employed...
Black’s Law Dictionary, 4th Ed, 1951

TRAFFIC. Commerce; trade; sale or exchange of merchandise, bills, money, and the like. The passing of goods or commodities from one person to another for an equivalent in goods or money. Senior v. Ratterman, 44 Ohio St. 673, 11 N.E. 321; Fine v. Moran, 74 Fla. 417, 77 So. 533, 538; Bruno v. U.S., C.C.A.Mass., 289 F. 649, 655; Kroger Grocery and Baking Co. V. Schwer, 36 Ohio App. 512, 173 N.E. 633. The subjects of
transportation on a route, as persons or goods; the passing to and fro of persons, animals, vehicles, or vessels, along a route of transportation, as a long a street, canal etc. United States v. Golden Gate Bridge and Highway Dist. of California , D.C.Cal., 37 F. Supp. 505, 512.
Black’s Law Dictionary. 4th Ed., p. 1667

INTERSTATE COMMERCE. Traffic, intercourse, commercial trading, or the transportation of persons or property between or among the several states of the Union, or from between points in one state and points in another state; commerce between the states, or between places in different states.
It comprehends all the component parts of commercial intercourse between different states. [Cites omitted]
Black’s Law Dictionary, 4th Ed., p. 955

TRANSPORTATION. The removal of goods or persons from one place to another, by a carrier. Railroad Co. v. Pratt, 22 Wall. 133, 22 L.Ed. 827; Interstate Commerce Com’n v. Brimson, 14 S.Ct. 1125, 154 U.S.
447, 38 L.Ed. 1047; Gloucester Ferry Co. v. Pennsylvania, 5 S.Ct. 826, 114 U.S. 196, 29 L.Ed. 158
Black’s Law Dictionary, 4th Ed., p. 1670

A PASSENGER is someone who PAYS a fee to be TRANSPORTED from Point A to Point B.

You might want to see if you can find anything in your state regarding "guest statutes". That would have to do with people who are GUESTS in your car, you know, like your friends and family members, they aren't PASSENGERS because they don't pay you to ride along to where ever you're going.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you, W, for the info on this. Glad this is all being brought out into the open now. Nothing they do surprises me as far as the agenda to try to usher the NAU into place. Ultimately they will fail.

I just called NC governor's office and the admin I spoke with said someone else had just called about this. I think we should all start calling there and make some noise.
1-800-662-7952 valid in North Carolina only
(919)733-4240, or (919)733-5811.

Said she just renewed her license and checked out the back for the first time and sure enough there it is, with a number above it. Seemed kind of shocked, herself. I gave her the worldnet daily website so she could see both of the symbols and read the article. I'll be calling again expressing my concerns if I don't hear back from them.

Guess I'll be moving my business out of NC before my next renewal!
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you, William and Jim, for being watchmen on the wall on this, and so many other issues.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's get the word out on this ASAP. Forward to all the talk radio stations we can think of. We should debate this kind of thing out in the open, if in fact this is the basis for a contintental drivers license. This stealthiness has to stop.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have forwarded to various talk radio shows hosts and just got a thank you from one.

The word must be spread far and wide about this.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AmericansNeverQuit wrote:
Thank you, W, for the info on this. Glad this is all being brought out into the open now. Nothing they do surprises me as far as the agenda to try to usher the NAU into place. Ultimately they will fail.

I just called NC governor's office and the admin I spoke with said someone else had just called about this. I think we should all start calling there and make some noise.
1-800-662-7952 valid in North Carolina only
(919)733-4240, or (919)733-5811.

Said she just renewed her license and checked out the back for the first time and sure enough there it is, with a number above it. Seemed kind of shocked, herself. I gave her the worldnet daily website so she could see both of the symbols and read the article. I'll be calling again expressing my concerns if I don't hear back from them.

Guess I'll be moving my business out of NC before my next renewal!
ANQ


I'll be moving my business as well. Unless we can get this stopped.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jean wrote:
Have forwarded to various talk radio shows hosts and just got a thank you from one.

The word must be spread far and wide about this.


YES WE NEED TO BE SHOUTING IT FROM THE ROOF TOPS!!!! It seems like things like this are coming from all directions! We must stay on our toes!
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I am beside myself with rage over this lastest (and oh, so obvious) incremental step towards a NAU! Everyone is screaming foul because this is all being perpetrated without congressional debate or vote BUT, does anyone STILL believe our elected "leaders", both R and D, are blissfully unaware of what is transpiring? I sure as hell don't!!!!!
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hapexamendios wrote:
If you want to fry the RFID, insert it into a microwave between 2 damp rags or paper towels. Only needs to be in there between 3-5 seconds. Will render the RFID useless.



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

greyparrot wrote:
I am beside myself with rage over this lastest (and oh, so obvious) incremental step towards a NAU! Everyone is screaming foul because this is all being perpetrated without congressional debate or vote BUT, does anyone STILL believe our elected "leaders", both R and D, are blissfully unaware of what is transpiring? I sure as hell don't!!!!!


This is why I have been screaming about the Real ID for the past two years. This is why I have been fighting so hard even when people ignored what I had to say. I have been sending local state rep the whole time. He is seeing the problem with it now as well.

I was going to submit my own article but Mr. Corsi did a great job and covered just about everything I would have.

Rep Jim Guest has sacrificed a great deal to go from state to state talking with people and state legislators about this issue. His hard work is staring to pay off.

DO SEND this to your TALK SHOW HOSTS. I personally sent it to Glenn Back and many others. We must defeat this NAU legislation as well as any other legislation associated with it including any type of Amnesty bills.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just realized that my new license (I received it by mail back in January or February due to an address change) has the north american logo on the back. I am simply disgusted by this!

Has anyone figured out yet what the number embedded in the hologram is?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My husband just renewed and the hologram is there. I told him about this BEFORE he went for his renewal, but like he said- What can you do when you HAVE to have it in order to work?
One of my sons will be ready for his learner's permit before the year's end. I've a feeling he may be a very disappointed young man if this crap isn't stopped before then. Personally, I think I will be forced to break the law and drive without a NC license when mine comes up for renewal. It works for illegals so it should work for me too. Right?

BTW- I have passed this info on as well. Maybe if enough pressure is put in the right places, the secret will be revealed.
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