Los Angeles Times Ron Paul isn't that scary

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Ron Paul isn't that scary
It's that over-do-gooder Mike Huckabee who should be making conservatives nervous.
November 20, 2007
J. Goldberg
jgoldberg@latimescolumnists.com


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As the hopeless but energetic presidential campaign of Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) builds momentum in name recognition, fundraising and cross-ideology appeal, media conservatives are beginning to attack Paul in earnest. Republican consultant David Hill condemns the candidate's "increasingly leftish" positions. Syndicated columnist Mona Charen calls Paul "too cozy with kooks and conspiracy theorists." Film critic and talk radio host Michael Medved looks over Paul's supporters and finds "an imposing collection of neo-Nazis, white Supremacists, Holocaust deniers, 9/11 'truthers' and other paranoid and discredited conspiracists."

For the most part, these allegations strike me as overblown and unfair. But, for argument's sake, let's say they're not. Let's even say that Paul has the passionate support of the Legion of Doom, that his campaign lunchroom looks like the "Star Wars" cantina, and that many of his top advisors actually have hooves.

Well, I would still find him less scary than Mike Huckabee.

While many are marveling at Paul's striking success at breaking out of the tinfoil-hat ghetto, Huckabee's story is even more remarkable. The former Arkansas governor and Baptist minister is polling in second place in Iowa and could conceivably win there. He's still a long shot to take the nomination and a pipe dream to take the presidency, but Huckabee matters in a way that Paul still doesn't. One small indicator of Huckabee's relevance: His opponents in the presidential race are attacking him while the field is ignoring Paul like an eccentric who sits too close to you on the bus.

So what's so scary about Huckabee? Personally, nothing. By all accounts, he's a charming, decent, friendly, pious man.

What's troubling about The Man From Hope 2.0 is what he represents. Huckabee represents compassionate conservatism on steroids. A devout social conservative on issues such as abortion, school prayer, homosexuality and evolution, Huckabee is a populist on economics, a fad-follower on the environment and an all-around do-gooder who believes that the biblical obligation to do "good works" extends to using government -- and your tax dollars -- to bring us closer to the Kingdom of Heaven on Earth.

For example, Huckabee has indicated he would support a nationwide federal ban on public smoking. Why? Because he's on a health kick, thinks smoking is bad and believes the government should do the right thing.

And therein lies the chief difference between Paul and Huckabee. One is a culturally conservative libertarian. The other is a right-wing progressive.

Whatever the faults of the man and his friends may or may not be, Paul's dogma generally renders them irrelevant. He is a true ideologue in that his personal preferences are secondary to his philosophical principles. When asked what his position is, he generally responds that his position can be deduced from the text of the Constitution. Of course, that's not as dispositive as he thinks it is. But you get the point.

As for Huckabee -- as with most politicians, alas -- his personal preferences matter enormously because ultimately they're the only thing that can be relied on to constrain him.

In this respect, Huckabee's philosophy is conventionally liberal, or progressive. What he wants to do with government certainly differs in important respects from what Hillary Clinton would do, but the limits he would place on governmental do-goodery are primarily tactical or practical, not philosophical or constitutional. This isn't to say he -- or Hillary -- is a would-be tyrant, but simply to note that the progressive notion of the state as a loving, caring parent is becoming a bipartisan affair.

Indeed, Huckabee represents the latest attempt to make conservatism more popular by jettisoning the unpopular bits. Contrary to the conventional belief that Republicans need to drop their opposition to abortion, gay marriage and the like in order to be popular, Huckabee understands that the unpopular stuff is the economic libertarianism: free trade and smaller government. That's why we're seeing a rise in economic populism on the right coupled with a culturally conservative populism. Huckabee is the bastard child of Lou Dobbs and Pat Robertson.

Historically, the conservative movement benefited from the tension between libertarianism and cultural traditionalism. This tension -- and the effort to reconcile it under the name "fusionism" -- has been mischaracterized as a battle between right-wing factions when it is a conflict that runs through the heart of individual conservatives. We all have little Mike Huckabees and Ron Pauls sitting on our shoulders. Neither is always right, but both should be listened to.

I would not vote for Paul mostly because I think his foreign policy would be disastrous (and because he'd lose in a rout not seen since Bambi versus Godzilla). But there's something weird going on when Paul, the small-government constitutionalist, is considered the extremist in the Republican Party while Huckabee, the statist, is the lovable underdog. It's even weirder because it's probably true: Huckabee is much closer to the mainstream. And that's what scares me about Huckabee and the mainstream alike.

[Dianne]

I'm terrified of Huckabee myself. Here's where he stands regarding illegal immigration:

Mr. Thompson’s aides, noting the rise of Mr. Huckabee in polls, said he would aggressively challenge Mr. Huckabee’s conservative credentials. In particular, they pointed to Mr. Huckabee’s support as governor for awarding state college scholarships to the children of illegal immigrants, a position they argued could be very damaging to Mr. Huckabee in this of all states. “With a pop-up of his numbers comes a review of his record,” said Bob Haus, the Iowa state director of Mr. Thompson’s campaign. “That will be his test over the next 49 days: does the charming speaker on the stump match up with his record in Arkansas, on immigration, on spending, on taxes. These are the basic issues that the caucusgoers are concerned about. Mike Huckabee is the equivalent of John Edwards in a Republican suit.”

Want to know what Mike Huckabee's position on illegal immigration is? Here's an excerpt from his interview with George Stephanopoulos on ABC's This Week (Feb. 11, 2007):



Stephanopoulos: Let's talk about immigration. I was struck by something in USA Today this morning, a headline that says, "Immigration Becomes KKK Rallying Point." You've said that you believe that there is some racism behind the immigration debate today.
What did you mean by that?

Huckabee: Well, first of all, I didn't mean that everybody who has some anxiety about immigration is a racist. And that was one of those things that suddenly blew up and people said, "Oh, he accused us all of being racists." Absolutely not. There are a lot of people who are concerned. I'm concerned. I'm concerned that our borders are porous and we're allowing people to come in and out without any real check as to who they are, where they're going, why they're here, do they have a communicable disease or a criminal background? We need to know those things.


Stephanopoulos: But you've also said we're going to be judged by how we treat the illegals who are here right now.

Huckabee: We shouldn't have amnesty where we just say, "Fine, everybody's good, we're going to let it go." We should have a process where people can pay the penalties, step up and accept responsibility for not being here legally. But here's the point. The objective is not to be punitive. The objective is to make things right. Right for us. Right for them. And what I have objected to in the past is when we are punishing the children for the laws that maybe their parents have broken. I do have a problem with that.

[Shapka]

Suckabee would be a disastrous choice.

He's like George W. Bush on steroids.

[sippy]

Huckabee would not be a good choice. He has a lousy record on immigration, and doing shady deals with the mexican government to get their stupid consulate in AR.

Chuck Norris recently endorsed huckabee. Obviously Chuck hasn't done his homework because huckabee would not be a good choice for pres. The last thing we need is another illegal lover who believes in man made global warming.
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[BrightNail]

I like how a reporter ties Ron Paul with Huckabee, and talks about conservatism.... I don't think there is any requirement to being reporter. Everyone and their mothers know huckster is NOT coservative, yet this reporter suggests otherwise.

Huck was dead in the water prior to Sepetember. He met with the CFR and now he is always on the news, in articles and they are all positive articles. Not one piece talking about his support of Amnesty, or his tax hikes etc... nothing..

www.taxhikemike.org

Pass that around when you get a chance.

How can someone who is raising less than a 1/6th of Ron Paul get much more media attention, in such a positive light? hmmm....

Huck is just Bush II. He will be BAD NEWS.
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[Dianne]

It was either the Fox or CNN debate in which he was asked about illegal immigration. Huckabee comented words to the effect that we are a compassionate and forgiving nation and one that should welcome those coming here for a better life. I guess he'll just hike up our taxes a bit more and bring the whole world over here. Mike TaxHikeabee, who never knew a criminal immigrant he didn't like.

Paul, Tancredo and Hunter are the only hope !!

[Shapka]