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    From: Roy Beck, President, NumbersUSA
    Date: Wednesday 3may06 11:30 p.m. EDT


    New Zogby poll shows big majorities of all likely voters agree with you on immigration

    TAKE HEART!

    GREAT NEWS ABOUT YOUR FELLOW VOTERS!


    You are going to feel SO encouraged by the polling results in this email.

    If you are like me, you have been discouraged to see all the flattering news coverage of the perpetual pro-illegal rallying -- and also to see a number of public opinion polls that suggest small majorities of Americans actually favor giving a path to citizenship for illegal aliens.

    I think that the new Zogby poll of "likely voters" released today helps explain why those other polls were misleading and should give all of us the confidence that we represent the vast majority of Americans on immigration issues.

    Key findings:
    •Voters prefer House's "enforcement-only" bill to Senate's bill to legalize illegal aliens, enhance enforcement and double greencards -- by a 2-1 margin!
    •Only 2% of likely voters think immigration is "too low" and needs increases!
    •67% of likely voters say immigration should be reduced so we can assimilate those already here.


    1. SEND FAXES BASED ON POLL FINDINGS

    Anne has posted new faxes on your Action Buffet corkboard for you to send to your Members of Congress.

    See the Action Notes on your corkboard at:
    www.NumbersUSA.com/actionbuffet

    Because there are so many other polls around, it is very important that the 180,000 of you make THIS Zogby poll the one that Members of Congress see the most.

    (This Zogby poll was sponsored by the Center for Immigration Studies.)

    2. OTHER POLLS OFFER ONLY 2 OPTIONS FOR DEALING WITH ILLEGAL ALIENS ALREADY HERE -- But voters soundly reject legalization when given 3 options

    Zogby shows that when given 3 options, Americans reject legalization and far prefer the "3rd Way" of "attrition" for dealing with the 12 million illegal aliens already in this country.

    The attrition method involves steadily increasing enforcement so that more and more illegal aliens voluntarily decide to go back home (meaning that U.S. taxpayers don't have to pay for them to return).

    What a relief!

    Most other polls have given voters a choice between (1) mass deportations of illegal aliens and (2) giving them a legalization path if they pay fines, learn English and obey other laws.

    When presented with that choice, polls are clear that most Americans are squeamish about the thought of millions of people being rounded up and shipped out over a short period of time.

    Thus, most polls have shown small majorities of Americans choose the legalization option.

    The problem is that the public almost never is told that there is a third option -- and that option is what the U.S. House passed in December.

    Following are the percentage choosing each of the Zogby poll choices:

    28% prefer the Senate proposals of "allowing the 12 million illegal immigrants in the country to earn citizenship, coupled with a doubling of legal immigration from 1 million to 2 million a year, and increased enforcement of immigration laws."

    12% prefer "mass deportations and roundups."

    56% prefer the House 'attrition' approach
    of "trying to reduce the number of illegal immigrants in the country by enforcing immigration laws, and making illegal immigrants go home over time, with no increase in legal immigration."

    That makes 68% choosing one of the two options that involve only enforcement.

    In another question, the likely voters were told that the House of Representatives has passed a bill to try to make illegal immigrants go home through the three following primary means:

    •by fortifying the border
    •by forcing businesses to verify that workers are legally in the country
    •by allowing greater cooperation by law enforcement


    When those three main ingredients of H.R. 4437 were given to likely voters, they were asked what they thought of the bill. Their answer:

    69% said GOOD or VERY GOOD idea

    27% said BAD or VERY BAD idea


    We have been working to distribute these results to all Representatives who voted for H.R. 4437 last December. We are telling them that despite one of the most lop-sided media efforts in history to demonize their bill, an overwhelming majority of Americans say they like what they did -- once those Americans are given a neutral description.

    So, every time you encounter a Member of Congress, tell them that you support what most Americans support: the enforcement-only provisions of the House-passed H.R. 4437!

    Please carry this message of the 3rd Option in letters you write to newspapers and in phone calls you make to talk shows.

    Call up the news editors and the reporters on newspapers that you believe have provided unfair coverage of the debate. Explain to them that their stories should always include all three options and that they should note that the Attrition Option is by far the most preferred.

    By the way, the Attrition option of the House bill includes deportations at a moderately higher level than we have today -- just not at the level of millions a year required under the "mass deportation" option.

    3. AMERICANS DON'T WANT INCREASES IN IMMIGRATION .... They want reductions!

    The Zogby poll shows that on immigration generally, Americans want less, not more, immigration.

    •Only 26% said immigrants were assimilating fine and that immigration should continue at current levels

    •67% said immigration should be reduced so we can assimilate those already here.


    While the Senate is considering various bills that would increase legal immigration from 1 million to 2 million a year, there is no sign that Americans see a need for any increase at all.

    •Only 2% of Americans believe current immigration is "too low."

    Overwhelming rejection of the idea that we need more immigration could be found in every grouping of "likely voter" participants in the survey:

    •Hispanics, Blacks, Whites
    •Catholics, Mainline Protestants, Born-Again Christians, Jews
    •Democrats, Republicans, Independents
    •Conservatives, Moderates, Liberals and even Progressives
    •All income levels
    •All education levels
    •All regions of the country
    < and cities small suburbs, cities, big of>
    •All age groups
    •Married, Divorced/Separated and Singles

    These results follow the pattern of other surveys asking a similar question, but they are more dramatic.

    The difference is that before answering the question of whether immigration numbers are too high, about right or too low, likely voters were given some actual numbers. They were told that there are currently 37 million immigrants in this country and that current policy brings in 1 million new immigrants a year.

    Once Americans are given a sense of the magnitude of current immigration, they have no stomach for increasing the numbers.

    I suggest that we all use those two numbers as much as possible: 37 million and 1 million a year.

    4. WIDESPREAD DISBELIEF IN OPEN BORDERS ARGUMENTS BY BUSH & KENNEDY

    One reason the public does not like legalizations is that they are skeptical of need for illegal-immigrant labor.

    •77 percent said there are plenty of Americans to fill low-wage jobs if employers pay more and treat workers better
    •Just 15 percent said there are not enough Americans for such jobs


    Is this in contradiction with polls that have shown the majority of Americans to say illegal aliens do jobs Americans won't do?

    No.

    Americans appear in other polls to be saying that the jobs as they now exist (pay, benefits, working conditions) are jobs that most Americans won't do.

    But in this Zogby poll, they are asked if Americans WOULD DO the jobs if employers paid more and treated workers better.

    It shows that nearly all Americans can see through President Bush's and Sen. Kennedy's rhetoric about our economy's dependency on foreign labor.

    Another reason the public does not like Senate proposals to legalize illegals and double legal immigration is a lack of confidence in our government to ensure security and safety:

    •73% said they had little or no confidence in the ability of the government to screen these additional applicants to weed out terrorists and criminals.

    This relates especially to NumbersUSA's efforts the past months through Congress and the media to warn of the ineptitude within the Department of Homeland Security.

    The Center for Immigration Studies says that the "public also does not buy the argument we have tried and failed to enforce the law."

    That is the argument we have heard so often from the newspaper editorialists and columnists, as well as such apologists for illegal immigration as Tamar Jacoby and Grover Norquist.

    •71% felt that past enforcement efforts have been "grossly inadequate"
    • Only 19 percent felt we had made a "real effort" to enforce our laws.


    While the Wall Street Journal, New York Times, Washington Post and Chicago Tribune repetitively say that past efforts at enforcement prove that there is nothing this nation can do to stop illegal immigration, most Americans believe we haven't really tried, yet.

    This Zogby poll shows that the American people have been paying attention ...

    ... that the American people aren't at all fooled by the rhetoric of Big Media, Big Business, Big Labor, Big Academe and Big Religion that we need to flood this country with even more giant waves of immigration ...

    ... that we should be able to easily enlist a million Americans in our internet army to counteract all the illegal-alien marchers.

    PLEASE LET THESE POLL RESULTS ENCOURAGE YOU TO REACH OUT AND ENLIST MANY MORE PEOPLE IN OUR ENDEAVOR.

    THANK YOU,


    -- ROY
    I stay current on Americans for Legal Immigration PAC's fight to Secure Our Border and Send Illegals Home via E-mail Alerts (CLICK HERE TO SIGN UP)

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    I sent my FAXs

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    I'm delighted!! Now, who is going to ACT on those polls...other than that famously tough sheriff in Arizona. Arapaio, is that his name??Maricopa county, anyway. I LOVE that guy. Tent cities to hold illegals and other law breakers...doesn't listen to the whiners...has a 3200 member posse..the largest in the US to arrest and detain illegals...Wish we had 1,000's just like him. I mean...why do we have to build expensive fancy detention centers??? Just waste more taxpayer money and time, time, time....gotta wait 2 years, 3 years, 5 years to get everything in place to handle these people 'humanely'...oh...and gazillions of dollars to 'fly' them home...right...cattle cars are a better idea.

    SOMEBODY has to get tough...SOON...

    MJ

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    We already are getting tough, Mustang. I've never seen people as angry as they are right now. We are winning this fight.

    Did you all See Kennedy up there on TV last night? He wants 2 or 3 MILLION more immigrants every year. How many more can we absord before America becomes a giant stripmall?

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    Thank you, JP !!
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