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    Along the way, event plans have met a number of obstacles, which raise the question of the "unsubstantiated" threat’s legitimacy. At one point, confusion ensued over whether or not the event was connected to the militia. That connection was quickly refuted.Whether the source of the "unsubstantiated threat" actually has any connection to cartels has also not yet been verified.

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    Breitbart Texas reported this morning: “While the protest calling for the shut-down of the bridges had a big following on social media, it remains unclear if there were any protesters actually willing to shut down the bridge. Around the various bridges and rallying points, Breitbart Texas reporters didn’t see any individuals that may have been preparing for a protest.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by ALIPAC View Post
    9/13/2013

    1. Who is Ron Chubb?
    2. Who are the other organizers?
    3. A coalition of groups? How can someone we have never heard of be leading a 'coalition of groups' that are not even listed?

    Mysterious.

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    "Shut Down All Ports" Protest Doesn't Receive Much Support

    But, Organizers haven't called off plans yet

    September 12, 2014
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    Did cartel threats really pre-empt protest for Marine jailed in Mexico?

    Robin Abcarian

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    Near Saturday's planned protest site, former Marine Andrew Tahmooressi apparently missed this sign warning motorists that a left turn from Camino de la Plaza in San Ysidro will take them straight into Mexico. (Robin Abcarian / Los Angeles Times)


    A planned protest at the US/Mexico border fizzles after organizers claims threats from 'the cartel'

    Retracing the steps of a Marine jailed in Mexico after a protest in his honor fails miserably


    It was the blockade that couldn't drive straight.

    On Saturday, unknown numbers of Americans angry about the Mexican incarceration of former Marine Sgt. Andrew Tahmooressi, illegal immigration and a bunch of other stuff,were supposed to drive to ports of entry between Mexico and the United States, turn off their engines and form a blockade.


    Stasyi Barth, the 41-year-old Lake Elsinore housewife who dreamed up the protest pictured patriots stepping from their cars, waving American flags and forcing officials on both sides of the border to act.

    Nevermind the Mexican judicial system! Nevermind the intense debate about illegal immigration! Nevermind the billions already spent securing the border!


    We still have a country to defend and protect. This protest will go on!- Protest organizer Stasyi Barth, who pulled the plug on the demonstration a day and a half later


    This would show Washington, for once and for all that ... well, that some people are so darn mad they are willing to engage in acts of civil disobedience to make their point.

    On her Facebook page, Shut Down All Ports, Barth demanded Tahmooressi’s immediate release, and the permanent sealing of the U.S./Mexico border “by means of a military grade fence with razor wire (or similar equivalent” and by adding any and all additional Border Patrol Agents and militarized National Guard members needed to further deter any unauthorized entry.”


    Yeah, it was kind of a silly plan. For starters, Tahmooressi is on trial in Mexico, and it's inconceivable that the judge in the case would order his release mid-proceeding because some Americans decided to block traffic.


    The protest began to fall apart for real on Thursday.

    Barth had been deeply disappointed when Tahmooressi’s mother, Jill, disavowed the action, first on Facebook, where she said the planned demonstration was “not legal, not effective and needlessly inconveniences and endangers others,” and then in a private phone call. Barth had understood, from previous contact with Jill Tahmooressi that the former Marine’s mother was on board.

    But Barth rallied: “We still have a country to defend and protect. This protest will go on!” she emailed supporters. Friday, she posted meeting places for each of 17 ports of entry that were to be blocked.

    The idea was to meet up in parking lots, and caravan to the border.

    But Saturday at 2 a.m., in an urgent message, Barth called the whole thing off.

    There had been, she said, “an unsubstantiated threat of mass violence to attendees, along with very suspicious activity on the Facebook site … Your lives, and the lives of our law enforcement, are more important than any protest.”


    When I spoke to Barth at 6:50 a.m. Saturday, she told me she’d been up all night, and that her partner in the event, a militia goofball named Rob Chupp, who has been “patrolling” the border in Texas, had received threats from “the cartel.” (Chupp is part of the "Patriots" militia group that was in the news recently when one of its members, who was holding a rifle, was shot at by a border patrol officer who mistook him for an armed migrant here illegally.)

    I had to suppress a chuckle.


    The cartel?
    I don’t personally know any Mexican drug lords, but I find it hard to believe that anyone engaged in high-stakes smuggling would give a fig about some bumbling American political protesters.

    Like, wouldn’t a drug lord just wait till Sunday or Monday to resume smuggling operations?


    As one commenter on Barth’s Facebook page put it: “I can’t believe you chickened out. You got scared by the drug cartels? This operation was in the US, not in Mexico! Using your logic, the Border Patrol and militias on the border should all pack up and go home!”


    I drove to the border Saturday morning before the appointed 8 a.m. protest time. I was curious whether anyone would show up.


    The only ones who did, as far as I could tell, were eight cars of California Highway Patrol officers, who had parked along the freeway exit closest to the border, positioned to break up the jam, which never materialized. The officers were standing around their cars, looking relaxed and chatting.


    In Texas, the Nogales International newspaper reported that cops were out in force at the DeConcini Port of Entry in Nogales, but protesters were nowhere to be seen.


    I drove into Mexico at 8:02 a.m., turned around, and drove right back out. My cross-border adventure took about 15 minutes. Traffic flowed freely.


    Because I was curious, I also retraced the steps of Tahmooressi on the night he was arrested after crossing into Mexico with three loaded guns.


    Tahmooressi, 25, has always claimed he accidentally crossed the border and that he never meant to bring his weapons into that country, which has strict antigun laws. In his attorney’s view, this is perhaps his strongest line of defense.


    Tahmooressi’s error is easy to spot. On the day he was arrested, Tahmooressi had parked his truck near the border on the U.S. side, and walked or taken a cab into Mexico earlier in the day. In Tijuana, he checked into Hotel Nelson, near the famous Tijuana arch, but checked out a few hours later because the hotel was dingy. “And I didn’t really like what I seen in Tijuana that much anyway with all the authorities and things,” he told Fox News’ Greta Van Sustern on May 30, two months after his arrest. “I didn’t feel very safe or comfortable there.”


    So he crossed back into the U.S., got back to his truck around 10 p.m., and drove out of the parking lot onto a street called Camino de la Plaza, just north of the border. He turned left out of the lot, and when he came to a traffic signal, he was facing east, toward Interstate 5, just in front of him. San Diego was on his left, to the north; Mexico was on his right, to the south.


    He made a left turn onto what he thought was the northbound Interstate 5 onramp. Unfortunately, that ramp then curved around to the right, and put him on Interstate 5 going south, directly into Mexico, with no exit possible.


    It was dark, and who knows what kind of emotional shape he was in. He suffers from PTSD, he may have had a girlfriend on the other side of the border, the day had clearly not gone well for him.


    But he missed two prominent road signs warning that his left turn would take him to “Mexico ONLY”—one on the right side of the road, and one hanging from the light signal right in front of him.


    His avid supporters, outraged that he is on trial in the first place, like to characterize him as having been "forgotten" by the media. But since shortly after his arrest, Tahmooressi has been the subject of an avalanche of publicity, and appeals for his legal fund. His case is being closely monitored by the State Department, and he has been the subject of numerous letters to the Mexican government by American legislators. On Oct. 1, two Republican congressmen, California's Ed Royce and Arizona's Matt Salmon have scheduled a hearing on Tahmooressi in Washington. Tahmooressi's mother and the talk show host Montel Williams, a former Marine who has devoted his Twitter feed to spreading the word about Tahmooressi (and tamping down some of the sillier rhetoric, like calls for a jail break), are scheduled to testify.

    Meanwhile, I wanted to press Barth a bit more about why she decided to cancel the protest. I think she made the right decision, but I had a hard time swallowing the cartel excuse.

    She was not available to chat with me at 8:20 a.m. Saturday when I called her from the border to set up a time to meet. “I’ve just taken three Xanaxes,” she told me, sounding very tired and very down.


    Six hours later, when I knocked on the door of her handsome Lake Elsinore home, she was still zonked out asleep. Her husband, Byron, invited me in for a few minutes.


    “It’s amazing what you can do in your pajamas with a computer and social media,” he said.


    I guess that’s one way of looking at it.


    By Monday, Barth had taken down her Facebook page and was no longer answering my calls.

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    This has been an interesting story from the get go because so many of the comments about "groups" nobody had ever heard of doing this were hot air but generating a lot of press.

    While it is unlikely cartels would ever attack Americans in the middle of such intensive law enforcement scrutiny and action, you have to hand it to them for generating a lot of press and attention.

    The suggestion about blocking those entry ports really made some elites nervous.

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    But the problem is

    As with most issues

    When all is said and done

    More was said than done.
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    to JohnDoe2: thanks for the update and info on this non-event. Most of us do not have the time and ability to research all of the supposed organizations out there. Certainly the Marxist "news" media works mightily to confuse and plant disinformation.

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    Whatever the real story about the non-event protest to shut down ports of entry may be, we desperately need mass civil disobedience protests. For over a generation American patriots have tried to secure the border and despite the obvious national security danger, despite the massive cost and social instability, despite the nullification of our border and the resultant negation of all immigration laws and the nullification of our very national sovereignty, despite the insanity of open borders and amnesty the push goes on and on and our own government is using every means of subterfuge to jam alien foreigners into our population with the obvious goal of restructuring the very demographic composition of our country, in spite of all of this it goes on and on. How in hell are we ever going to stop this cynical destruction of the U.S. and its society by the government itself?

    I HAVE SAID THIS OVER AND OVER AGAIN. WE MUST FORCE THE GOVERNMENT TO RESPOND TO THIS CRISIS BY REFUSING TO PARTICIPATE IN SUPPORTING THIS DISPICABNLE, PRO ALIEN FORENIGNER, ANTI AMERICAN MARXIST EXCUSE FOR A U.S. GOVERNMENT.

    WE NEED BOOTS ON THE GROUND AT THE BORDER. RIGHT UP ON THE BORDER. WILL ANYONE WITH THE ABILITY TO ORGANIZE A PROTEST STEP FORDWARD AND ARRANGE CHARTER BUSSES TO THE BORDER? ANYONE AT ALL?
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    Quote Originally Posted by csarbww View Post
    to JohnDoe2: thanks for the update and info on this non-event. Most of us do not have the time and ability to research all of the supposed organizations out there. Certainly the Marxist "news" media works mightily to confuse and plant disinformation.
    Many people take the first article they see on an issue and see it as the truth, no matter the source.
    I like to compare several version of the story and decide for myself what is probably the truth.
    Sometimes the blogs have the truth
    but sometimes the bloggers just make stuff up for the fun of it.
    Just to see how many gullible people they can fool.
    Sometimes the main stream media has the actual truth,
    sometimes not.
    Sometimes you can't tell who really has the truth.
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