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    Impact of ‘zero tolerance’ on display in Texas immigration court. One after another,

    Impact of ‘zero tolerance’ on display in Texas immigration court. One after another, asylum seekers are ordered deported

    By MOLLY HENNESSY-FISKE
    JUL 05, 2018 | 4:45 PM


    Sitting before an immigration judge in this south Texas detention center Thursday, a Central American mother separated from her son pleaded for asylum.

    “Your honor, I’m just asking for one opportunity to be here,” said the woman wearing a blue prison uniform and a red plastic rosary around her neck. “You don’t know how much pain it has caused us to be separated from our children. We’re kind of losing it.”

    Judge Robert Powell’s face was stern. During the past five years, he has denied 79% of asylum cases, according to Syracuse University’s Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse.

    “What you’re describing is not persecution,” he said

    “I’m asking for an opportunity,” the woman replied in Spanish through an interpreter.

    “I’m not here to give you an opportunity.” He ordered her deported.

    Immigrant family separations on the border were supposed to end after President Trump issued an executive order June 20. A federal judge in California ordered all children be reunited with their parents in a month, and those age 5 and under within 15 days. On Thursday, the administration said up to 3,000 children have been separated — hundreds more than initially reported — and DNA testing has begun to reunite families.

    Port Isabel has been designated the “primary family reunification and removal center,” but lawyers here said they have yet to see detained parents reunited.

    To qualify for asylum in the U.S., immigrants must prove they fear persecution at home because of their race, religion, nationality, political opinion or “membership in a particular social group,” and that their government is unwilling or unable to protect them. Most of the Central American parents detained here after “zero tolerance” fled gang and domestic violence. But that’s no longer grounds for seeking asylum, according to a guidance last month from Atty. Gen. Jeff Sessions. Immigration courts are part of the Justice Department, so judges are following that guidance.

    Because immigration courts are administrative, not criminal, immigrants are not entitled to public defenders. And so, each day, they attempt to represent themselves in hearings that sometimes last only a few minutes.

    The courtrooms are empty. That’s because, like a half dozen others nationwide, the court is inside a fortified Immigration and Customs Enforcement detention center. Access is restricted, and may be denied. The Times had to request to attend court hearings — which are public — 24 hours in advance. After access to the facility was approved last week, access was denied to the courtrooms when guards said the proceedings were closed, without explanation.

    Detainees have little access to the outside world, including their children. It costs them 90 cents a minute to place a phone call. When they do, they can be nearly inaudible. They receive mail, but when reporters wrote to them last week, the letters were confiscated and guards questioned why they had been contacted, according to a lawyer. Lawyers also said some separated parents have been pressured into agreeing to deportation in order to reunite with their children.

    UNICEF officials toured Port Isabel Thursday. A dozen pro bono lawyers visited immigrants. But they were spread thin. None represented parents at the credible fear reviews, where judges considered whether to uphold an asylum officer’s finding that they be deported.

    Immigration Judge Morris Onyewuchi, a former Homeland Security lawyer appointed to the bench two years ago, questioned several parents’ appeals.

    “You have children?” he asked a Honduran mother.

    Yes, Elinda Aguilar said, she had three.

    “Two of them were with me when we got separated by immigration, the other is in Honduras,” said Aguilar, 44.

    “How many times have you been to the U.S.?” the judge asked.

    Aguilar said this was her first time. The judge reviewed what Aguilar had told an asylum officer: That she had fled an ex-husband who beat, raped and threatened her. “He told you he would kill you if you went with another man?” the judge said.

    Yes, Aguilar replied.

    The judge noted that Aguilar had reported the crimes to police, who charged her husband, although he never showed up in court. Then he announced his decision: deportation.

    Aguilar looked confused. “Did the asylum officer talk to you and explain my case?” she said.

    The judge said he was acting according to the law.

    Although she was fleeing an abusive husband, he said, “your courts intervened and they put him through the legal process. That’s also how things work in this country.”

    Aguilar knit her hands. She wasn’t leaving yet.

    “I would like to know what’s going to happen to my children, the ones who came with me,” she asked the judge.

    “The Department of Homeland Security will deal with that. Talk to your deportation officer,” he said. Guards led her away as she looked shocked, and brought in the next parent.

    Denis Cardona, 31, told the judge he fled Honduras to the U.S. with his son Alexander.

    “Where is he?” the judge asked.

    “He’s here, detained, but I don’t know where,” Cardona said. “I was told he’s an hour away.”

    The judge reviewed Cardona’s case. It was his first time crossing the border to the U.S. He had fled threats from the MS-13 gang after a land dispute with a cousin.

    “And you did not report this to authorities in your country?” the judge said.

    Yes, Cardona said, “but they didn’t listen.”

    “It’s difficult for police to get where we were, and also the police do not help poor people,” he said.

    Why hadn’t he told the asylum officer all that, the judge asked. Cardona said he had. He leaned his head on his hand. He looked tired.

    Moments later, the judge ruled.

    “This is a family dispute. This is not grounds for asylum in the United States,” he said. Deported.

    Down the hall, Judge Powell heard appeals from separated parents appearing by video feed from Pearsall Detention Center to the west. Though he denied most asylum cases, there are exceptions. Recently, after an asylum officer denied a claim by a Central American woman who said police raped and threatened to kill her, Powell reversed that decision. She can now pursue her asylum claim, though she still hasn’t been released or reunited with her kids.

    On Thursday Nora Barahona, of Honduras, told Powell she had fled to the U.S. after her husband beat and raped her, abusing their children. She crossed the border with her 12-year-old daughter, but was separated by immigration officials.

    “They told me they had sent her to Florida,” she sobbed.

    The judge ordered Barahona deported, as he would a dozen others who appeared before him. He read from a script, telling each that they had failed to meet the requirements for asylum. He ended with: “Good luck in your home country."

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    To qualify for asylum in the U.S., immigrants must prove they fear persecution at home because of their race, religion, nationality, political opinion or “membership in a particular social group,” and that their government is unwilling or unable to protect them. Most of the Central American parents detained here after “zero tolerance” fled gang and domestic violence. But that’s no longer grounds for seeking asylum, according to a guidance last month from Atty. Gen. Jeff Sessions. Immigration courts are part of the Justice Department, so judges are following that guidance.

    Thank you, Jeff Sessions!

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    FAST TRACK DEPORT THEM ALL!

    THEY CAN STAY IN MEXICO OR GO TO BRAZIL!

    PUT THEM ALL IN A STADUIM...BANG THE GAVEL...ORDER THEM REMOVED AND LOAD UP THE WAITING BUSES TO SEND THEM BACK!

    AMERICAN'S HAVE A CREDIBLE "FEAR" THEY ARE BANKRUPTING US AND BRING THEIR GANGS AND VIOLENCE WITH THEM!

    END ANCHOR BABY SCAM TOO!

    NO MORE SOB STORIES...GET THEM OUT!
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    Asylum should end. It's just a scam these criminal invaders use to stay here and go on welfare.

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    When my parents came here...LEGALLY in the late 20's....they did not have food stamps....no housing.....NOTHING!!!!
    They had to be self-sufficient.....They were sponsored by a relative......Never once did they take any hand-outs... They stood on their own 2 feet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Impact of ‘zero tolerance’ on display in Texas immigration court. One after another, asylum seekers are ordered deported
    This is good news! But I'd like to see this in all states. But considering that Texas is a border state, it's a good start. The other border states should also follow suit in a hurry.

    Judge Robert Powell’s face was stern. During the past five years, he has denied 79% of asylum cases, according to Syracuse University’s Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse.
    I think it should be more than 79%

    “What you’re describing is not persecution,” he said
    No it's not. Usually when people seek asylum, they are fleeing war, when the other side is bombing your house and you neighborhood, and trying to kill you. As far as I know, there are no civil wars going on in the Americas.

    “I’m asking for an opportunity,” the woman replied in Spanish through an interpreter.
    Too bad, go home.

    “I’m not here to give you an opportunity.” He ordered her deported.
    That's right! You tell her, judge!

    To qualify for asylum in the U.S., immigrants must prove they fear persecution at home because of their race, religion, nationality, political opinion or “membership in a particular social group,” and that their government is unwilling or unable to protect them. Most of the Central American parents detained here after “zero tolerance” fled gang and domestic violence. But that’s no longer grounds for seeking asylum, according to a guidance last month from Atty. Gen. Jeff Sessions. Immigration courts are part of the Justice Department, so judges are following that guidance.
    YES!!!!!! Thank you Jeff Sessions!!!! You are my favorite politician of all time!!!!!!

    Because immigration courts are administrative, not criminal, immigrants are not entitled to public defenders. And so, each day, they attempt to represent themselves in hearings that sometimes last only a few minutes.
    And that's the way it should be with ILLEGAL ALIENS who came here illegally, and aren't citizens.

    And the reason I wrote "illegal aliens" in all caps is because of the typo "immigrants". Immigrants ARE entitled to public defenders because they are citizens, illegal aliens are not. The media really needs to stop calling illegal aliens "immigrants". They are not immigrants. They are illegal aliens. Huge difference between the two.

    The courtrooms are empty. That’s because, like a half dozen others nationwide, the court is inside a fortified Immigration and Customs Enforcement detention center. Access is restricted, and may be denied. The Times had to request to attend court hearings — which are public — 24 hours in advance. After access to the facility was approved last week, access was denied to the courtrooms when guards said the proceedings were closed, without explanation.
    Good, keep the lying media out.

    Immigration Judge Morris Onyewuchi, a former Homeland Security lawyer appointed to the bench two years ago, questioned several parents’ appeals.

    “You have children?” he asked a Honduran mother.

    Yes, Elinda Aguilar said, she had three.

    “Two of them were with me when we got separated by immigration, the other is in Honduras,” said Aguilar, 44.

    “How many times have you been to the U.S.?” the judge asked.

    Aguilar said this was her first time. The judge reviewed what Aguilar had told an asylum officer: That she had fled an ex-husband who beat, raped and threatened her. “He told you he would kill you if you went with another man?” the judge said.

    Yes, Aguilar replied.

    The judge noted that Aguilar had reported the crimes to police, who charged her husband, although he never showed up in court. Then he announced his decision: deportation.
    Domestic abuse isn't reason enough to come here and seek asylum. Go to your local police station in you home country and report this. It's their job to protect you, not ours.

    The judge reviewed Cardona’s case. It was his first time crossing the border to the U.S. He had fled threats from the MS-13 gang after a land dispute with a cousin.

    “And you did not report this to authorities in your country?” the judge said.

    Yes, Cardona said, “but they didn’t listen.”

    “It’s difficult for police to get where we were, and also the police do not help poor people,” he said.

    Why hadn’t he told the asylum officer all that, the judge asked. Cardona said he had. He leaned his head on his hand. He looked tired.

    Moments later, the judge ruled.

    “This is a family dispute. This is not grounds for asylum in the United States,” he said. Deported.
    The police do not help poor people? Bullsh*t! And not only that, but even if any of these stories were enough for us to give them asylum, which they are not, how do we know that they are telling the truth and not just making stuff up in order to come here and steal a job? We don't. There is no way to verify any of these stories. I can see someone coming from a war torn country. Their stories would be a little more credible. People making stuff up just to come here for economic reasons isn't enough for us to let them in. They all need to go back, and never even have tried coming here in the first place.

    Down the hall, Judge Powell heard appeals from separated parents appearing by video feed from Pearsall Detention Center to the west. Though he denied most asylum cases, there are exceptions. Recently, after an asylum officer denied a claim by a Central American woman who said police raped and threatened to kill her, Powell reversed that decision. She can now pursue her asylum claim, though she still hasn’t been released or reunited with her kids.
    Oh, great. Now people will be using this made-up story since they know it works. There is no way to verify these stories. They should ALL be denied asylum.

    On Thursday Nora Barahona, of Honduras, told Powell she had fled to the U.S. after her husband beat and raped her, abusing their children. She crossed the border with her 12-year-old daughter, but was separated by immigration officials.

    “They told me they had sent her to Florida,” she sobbed.

    The judge ordered Barahona deported, as he would a dozen others who appeared before him. He read from a script, telling each that they had failed to meet the requirements for asylum. He ended with: “Good luck in your home country."
    And that's the way it should be.
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    THEY ALL LIE...THEY HAVE NO PROOF

    THEY CAN GO TO CHINA!

    NO VACANCY!
    ILLEGAL ALIENS HAVE "BROKEN" OUR IMMIGRATION SYSTEM

    DO NOT REWARD THEM - DEPORT THEM ALL

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    They need to stop breeding children they can't support and clean up their countries. That's their responsibility not ours or any other nation.

    Plan B = Tell these countries that if their citizens don't stop entering the US illegally, there will be no aid from or trade with the United States. Period.
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    Deport them ALL.

    Their "opportunity" is to go Build America on their soil!

    SHUT THE BORDER DOWN!

    NO ASYLUM, NO PATH TO STAY AND NO DACA!
    ILLEGAL ALIENS HAVE "BROKEN" OUR IMMIGRATION SYSTEM

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    They don't like America, they want something else, that's why they come here, protest and vote Democrat.
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