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    40,000 march against Minutemen in Chicago

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    40,000 march against Minutemen in Chicago
    By Elizabeth Lalasz | July 22, 2005 | Page 15

    CHICAGO--About 40,000 people rallied at McKinley Park on the city’s South Side in favor of immigrant rights and in opposition to the Minutemen establishing a chapter in Chicago.

    The protest--the largest demonstration in the city in decades--included thousands of immigrants from Mexico, El Salvador, Honduras, Peru, Ecuador, Uruguay and Costa Rica. They chanted at full volume, “¡Si se puede!, ¡Si se puede!� (Yes, we can!; Yes we can!�), holding signs that read, “Minutemen: Human Rights Violators�; “We want recognition as workers: we are not terrorists�; “We demand the right to get work permits� and “Stop Deportations.�

    Eliseo Morales, who brought his whole family to the rally said, “We are legal residents. My children were born here and we have no problems with immigration...We are brothers by origin. We come from the same land and share the problems of our race, and so here we are.�

    Organized through pro-immigrant organizations like Centro Sin Fronteras and local churches, the demonstration took on a bigger character once Spanish-speaking radio disc jockeys began promoting it. Now organizers are floating the idea of organizing a similar demonstration in front of the White House.

    The Minutemen--who mounted highly publicized “border patrols� in Arizona and California in recent months--targeted Chicago because it has the second-largest Mexican immigrant population in the U.S. after Los Angeles. That’s why the demonstration is so significant. As one young Latino participant told Socialist Worker, “It’s the kind of thing you want to see. When you have a good cause, you can bring a lot of people together.�

    We have to keep organizing. The day before the rally, the Chicago Tribune, ran an interview with the group’s main organizers, giving them a platform. These racists are planning a future action targeting Wells Fargo, a bank which accepts the matricula consular, a Mexican ID card primarily used by undocumented immigrants. They’re also proposing an “activist boot camp� October 15 to fight “illegal immigration� in Chicago!

    We have to build on the momentum of the July 1 protest to let the Minutemen know that they are not welcome here.
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    Eliseo Morales, who brought his whole family to the rally said, “We are legal residents. My children were born here and we have no problems with immigration...We are brothers by origin. We come from the same land and share the problems of our race, and so here we are.�
    Citizen Breeders. 40,000--was ICE there? See how easy these people are to find. Just send him a wiff of a Minute Man Project and they roll out in droves. There is no excuse if our federal government didn't use this public display to make arrests and effect deportations of all the illegals in the crowd...which was probably everybody except Morales family and you never know if he was telling the truth.

    What so funny is that they think they share the problems of "race". There is that old FAKE RACE thing again. If you are Latino or Mexican, then you are a Caucasian, STUPID!!

    The Minutemen--who mounted highly publicized “border patrols� in Arizona and California in recent months--targeted Chicago because it has the second-largest Mexican immigrant population in the U.S. after Los Angeles. That’s why the demonstration is so significant. As one young Latino participant told Socialist Worker, “It’s the kind of thing you want to see. When you have a good cause, you can bring a lot of people together.�
    Poor things...they don't "get it". Their rally and their "numbers" have now terrified Americans in Chicago and probably done more to mount efforts to deport them than anything WE could have done. Sure....roll on down to DC!!

    We have to keep organizing. The day before the rally, the Chicago Tribune, ran an interview with the group’s main organizers, giving them a platform. These racists are planning a future action targeting Wells Fargo, a bank which accepts the matricula consular, a Mexican ID card primarily used by undocumented immigrants. They’re also proposing an “activist boot camp� October 15 to fight “illegal immigration� in Chicago!
    MMP "Targeting Wells Fargo"....LOVE IT. MMP proposing "Activist boot camp?"......BETTER STILL!!!

    We have to build on the momentum of the July 1 protest to let the Minutemen know that they are not welcome here.
    Well....we'll just see who is and is not welcome here, now won't WE? See, they don't "get it". They don't understand anything here. Oh, illegals, just keep on talkin' to those microphones... You're Doing' Our Work For US!!

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    40,000 what a lie.

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    Yeah, I got that in my email this morning....I wondered as I read...40,000...I'd bet not...maybe 1,000. Probably 300.

    And his children were born here? That doesn't make them citizens to me...that makes them children born to foreign parents. We MUST stop allowing them to torture our 14th amendment into something it was NEVER meant to be.

    I was pleased to see that at least THEIR protests make the press...ours certainly don't, unless it's something negative. Attention to the problem is all we need...Americans will make up their own minds what's right and what's wrong. Naturally there will be some folks protesting b/c they're professional protesters and care not what the cause might be...they just love to raise hell.

    Go Minutemen, go...go ...go...go...stir up this pot. It's already at a rolling boil.

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    The protest--the largest demonstration in the city in decades--included thousands of immigrants from Mexico, El Salvador, Honduras, Peru, Ecuador, Uruguay and Costa Rica. They chanted at full volume, “¡Si se puede!, ¡Si se puede!� (Yes, we can!; Yes we can!�), holding signs that read, “Minutemen: Human Rights Violators�; “We want recognition as workers: we are not terrorists�; “We demand the right to get work permits� and “Stop Deportations.�
    Let me break this down. Human rights violators? What rights have they violated? I don't remember one illegal alien harmed during the MMP operations ever. Yet you illegal aliens merely being here is a violation of our sovereignty. You claim that what the MMP is doing is violating human rights? What about the human rights violations caused by the likes of MS-13? Lets talk about that one. You want recognition as workers? Someone please remind these lawbreakers that they are prohibited by law from working in this country in the first place. You say we are not terrorists? Ok, maybe you are or maybe your not, but that still doesn't take away from the fact that your mere presence violates federal immigration laws and you should be immediately deported. This is nonsense that our federal government would allow this invasion to go on. The Mexican government and their unwanted citizens are trampling on our sovereignty. Even Mexico wouldn't put up with this style of invasion. If millions of Guatamelons started pouring over the southern part of the Mexican border then the Mexicans would fight them militarily. Nobody else except maybe pansy Europe and Canada puts up with this. Yet we just keep letting them all in so they can demand more special rights and more tax payer benefits. They are sucking us dry. Time to put a halt to the gravy train, time to turn off the spickett and time to start sending some people back home.

    Eliseo Morales, who brought his whole family to the rally said, “We are legal residents. My children were born here and we have no problems with immigration...We are brothers by origin. We come from the same land and share the problems of our race, and so here we are.�
    What a crock of oops. You don't share the same race or color as I do. Are you kidding me? Yeah I see plenty of white Americans who have a problem joining gangs, dealing drugs, raping women and children, killing mercilessly, living in poverty, being illiterate in our own language, dropping out of school and having babies at an alarming rate, starting race riots, etc. Give me a break. Unlike you illegals, I'm not a burden to my country, unlike you illegals I actually contribute to my society and pay taxes. This country was great once before you illegal alien scumbags started showing up with your Viva La Raza, we're taking over garbage. No you don't come from the same land as us. Not even close. Most Americans come from the European ancestary while most of you illegals come from Latin America/Spanish ancestary. Most Americans have nothing in common with illegal aliens from Latin America and most likely never will. Your children were born here? Can you say anchor babies? I know I can.

    Organized through pro-immigrant organizations like Centro Sin Fronteras and local churches, the demonstration took on a bigger character once Spanish-speaking radio disc jockeys began promoting it. Now organizers are floating the idea of organizing a similar demonstration in front of the White House.
    Pro immigrant my a--. Try pro illegal alien. You want to go to the White House. I'm sure Jorge Bush would welcome you with open arms. He might even have milk and cookies for you inside the Lincoln room. What a joke. 40,000 people. There is really that many illegal aliens residing in Chicago? No wonder that place is a cesspool. Why weren't the feds there to round them up? They claim they don't know where the illegal aliens are. BS. If they don't know where they are then how do they even remotely know how many of them are in the US. They have technology that can spot a warm body inside some remote cave in Pakistan, but they don't know where millions of illegal aliens are in the US? They damn well know where the illegal aliens are, they are right under their noses and they won't do a damn thing about them. If our government was doing their jobs then these vermin wouldn't even be seen in public because they would be too busy heading back down south.

    The Minutemen--who mounted highly publicized “border patrols� in Arizona and California in recent months--targeted Chicago because it has the second-largest Mexican immigrant population in the U.S. after Los Angeles. That’s why the demonstration is so significant. As one young Latino participant told Socialist Worker, “It’s the kind of thing you want to see. When you have a good cause, you can bring a lot of people together.�
    Socialist worker? America are you paying attention? We here all know that illegal immigration is just part of a bigger plot to spread communism throughout America which will eventually equal the destruction of our great nation. We know that most of Latin America is engulfed with communistic regimes. They know that their ideals wouldn't pass muster with the American people so now they are trying to overrun us with millions upon millions of illegal immigrants to get their ideology to become the law of the land. Our country is being invaded and destroyed from the inside out all under the guise of compassion and tolerance. We can no longer allow this to go on if we are to survive as a nation. We can't allow the illegal vermin to press their ideology down our throats. We must band together by an large and drive the illegals out of this country. We must make it clear that they are not welcomed here. Millions must get together to protest (peacefully) in the streets, at the White House and demand that Bush and his cronies enforce our laws to drive the enemy out of this country. That's right, the illegal vermin are the enemy. Mexico is the enemy. Radical Islam is the enemy. We must tell Bush enough is enough and we will no longer put up and accept the lack of enforcement of our laws and we will no longer accept Mexico's meddling with our countries affairs. If and only if we do something to this extreme will this problem possibly get solved. I don't even want to go into the alternative.

    We have to keep organizing. The day before the rally, the Chicago Tribune, ran an interview with the group’s main organizers, giving them a platform. These racists are planning a future action targeting Wells Fargo, a bank which accepts the matricula consular, a Mexican ID card primarily used by undocumented immigrants. They’re also proposing an “activist boot camp� October 15 to fight “illegal immigration� in Chicago!
    No you people are the real racists. You and your groups like Mecha, Maldef and La Raza (which means for the race). You people want us to be tolerant and compassionate of your views, but you people won't even tolerate someone who has a difference of opinion. Oh and your Mexican ID is fraudulent, a complete sham. If your ID was so legit then why don't you ask the Mexican government why they won't even accept them as legit forms of ID. Yet we're suppose to accept these worthless pieces of paper? Wells Fargo by accepting these fake ID's are in violation of federal law. They should be shutdown and investigated under RICO at the very least. I think this would qualify as racketeering, don't ya think? Yet you idiots still can't figure out the difference between illegal and legl. Illegal = not allowed. Get it?

    We have to build on the momentum of the July 1 protest to let the Minutemen know that they are not welcome here.
    Says who? You illegals? You criminal scum. Your not even suppose to be here in the first place and yet you scumbags are trying to make all the rules here. Get out of this country and stay out. You don't tell us what to do, EVER. America wake up! Unless you want these illegals dictating policy then you better get off your couches and speak out at the very least.

    If we had some real leadership in the White House and in the federal government in general then this garbage would have stopped long ago. Bush and his cronies with one phone call could have easily rounded up and deported all 40,000 of these criminal aliens who dared to try to protest policies of a country they don't even have a legal right to reside in. If I was in charge, I would have had the National Guard go in there and rounded up every last one of them and I would have aired it all over the news as a message that illegal immigration will not be tolerated, no matter what. Then again that's just me because unlike Jorge Bush, I actually have a backbone and don't give a damn what the vermin think about me and I don't accept payoffs.
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    All I can say is thank God I don't live in Chicago. It sounds like they have been taken over by the scourge of our country. I don't any more believe there were 40,000 people there SUPPORTING ILLEGALS than I can fly. And, I don't believe that most of them were legal either because every one I've ever heard interviewed say they don't support illegal immigration. Now, SOMEONE is LYING. Wonder if there are any pictures so we could count the people!!

    Next time we know there is going to be something like this going on, we need to post it on the website and have EVERY MEMBER contact ICE and tip them off. They wouldn't even have to buy them coffee and donuts. AND, then if nothing is done, we can attack ICE for not doing their jobs.
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    40,000 Wow! I wonder why this wastn on the news???
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    Without going too deeply into exploring this, I think it is interesting that in Chicago, 40,000 Americans who are latino ancestory have no problem with people who violate our law. It tells me more about the community of Americans of latino ancestory than anything.

    Do they think that 40,000 latinos standing up for criminals makes the hispanic-americans look GOOD?

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    A Google search looking for coverage of this "event" first turned up postings on FR. This is the translated La Raza (el puko) version. El Puko, La Raza, claims 50,000 showed up.

    Historical Latina Manifestation
    La Raza ^ | July 2 2005 | Miguel Ã?ngel Arrieta
    Posted on 07/02/2005 6:47:31 PM PDT by chicagolady

    Historical Latin manifestation Send east article!

    Thousands of Latin of all the nationalities participated in Chicago in a march against the measures anti-immigrants. PUBLICITY Miguel Arrieta Angel The surprising answer to the call emitted by local wireless companies, to participate in the march against policies and practices anti-immigrants, exceeded the expectations of the organizers of this manifestation. And it is that according to calculations of authorities and representatives of organizations who participated in the manifestation, they were little more than 50 thousand people whom crossed this Friday the streets of the South zone of Chicago, to send his protest against the hardening assumed by the North American government in the matter of immigration.

    From the 7:30 in the morning groups of Latin adorned in their majority with blue trousers and playera white, began to arrive at the rallying point where he would give to beginning the march. Women, children, old, young, originating whole families of Costa Rica, Guatemala, Ecuador, but mainly of Mexico, after two hours already added the thousand people integrated to the movement.

    In an atmosphere of fair decorated in the rain of claxonazos of trailers, trucks and automobiles, the members of the human column carried flags, posters, placards, standards of the Virgin of Guadalupe and organized in choir they sent slogans of protest directed to organizations anti-immigrants like the Minuteman group.

    Other slogans were for President George Bush, so that it listened to the voice "of million citizens who participate in the growth of America and receive treatment of slaves". Thousand of fine cardboards presented/displayed with the arms in stop by his carriers, they also reflected the objectives of those who decided to send themselves to the street: "We want recognition like workers, we are not terrorist"; "We demanded right to obtain driver's licenses"; "Minuteman, rapists of human rights"; "High to the deportations".

    People, people and more people. They left street 32, street 33. They arrived by both senses of the Archer avenue. Hundreds flowed more from the South side of the Ashland avenue. They complied in the spaces that found between the multitude. There was no a voice to order the crowd. Nor idea of how avoiding the confusion. Several times the contingent was confused by voices that indicated the moment for starting, but ended up stopping.

    The organizers did not know what to do. It was the intervention of diverse volunteers who seted out to order the march, which allowed to avoid an unbalanced long walk. Minutes after the 10:00 in the morning contingent he initiated his displacement from the crossing of 31 street and Ashland avenue. This happened when al in front of the manifestation was placed the wireless conductor Rafael Pulido , identified like "the Gunman" of Chicago, that during the last weeks became the main promoter of this march. To the shout of "Himself it can; yes it can ", thousands of throats shook the streets of Chicago.

    Before it had never happened something thus in this region of North America, revealed Councilman Ricardo Muñoz, hurried by those who they walked back of him in interminable row. Of that form, the contingent took almost two hours in moving until the parking of a located commercial center on the same Ashland avenue, to the height of street 43.

    There, the Cardinal red parish priest Frame considered that the success achieved with the participation of thousands of citizens, must be as soon as the beginning of other similar movements that allow to sensitize the government of George Bush. In the heat of euphoria by the inaudita answer that had the call to participate in the march, the parish priest was interrupted by the music of the Mariachi who became present at those moments.

    The emotion of the assistants did not stop there. It was the intonation of the Mexican national anthem what a gigantic culminated choir of new account by "Yes woke up can; yes it can ". In summary, it was an historical day for the Latin movement and particularly for the actions for the immigrants © the Race
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    The weird thing is, NBC, CBS, ABC, and FOX TV didn't cover this at all! Neither did the Chicago Tribune or Sun-Times. They sent reporters and camera men to a FAIR meeting at a Chicago restaurant a few months ago where there were only 50 protestors to our 50 reformers. I guess the Sandra Day O'Connor resignation must have had all available reporters too busy yesterday.

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    If they are going to sing the MEXICAN NATIONAL ANTHEM, they need to go back to MEXICO. Get this--THIS IS AMERICA. We sing the STAR SPANGLED BANNER here.
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