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    Going after the source of illegal immigration, the people who hire them.

    I know I might sound like a broken record, since this is what I've always expressed as being what I want to see done, more than anything else, but my question is this....does anyone know if Trump ever considered going after the employers of illegal aliens more harshly, and does anyone know if there are any articles out there talking about how, much harsher fines and possible jail time for the employers, would be the way to go?

    I honestly think that going straight to the source, the people who hire them, would be much speedier, and way more effective than anything else. Even though I'd like to see a wall built, I think hiring the 10,000 extra ICE agents, and immigration judges and border patrol agents that Trump promised, along with making E-Verify mandatory, and drastically increasing the fines for employers who hire them, and jail time for second offenders, would be the most effective thing.

    Also, does anyone know whatever happened to Trump's promise about the 10,000 extra ICE agents he wanted to hire, and why he hasn't talked about it again since he ran for president?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6 Million Dollar Man View Post
    I know I might sound like a broken record, since this is what I've always expressed as being what I want to see done, more than anything else, but my question is this....does anyone know if Trump ever considered going after the employers of illegal aliens more harshly, and does anyone know if there are any articles out there talking about how, much harsher fines and possible jail time for the employers, would be the way to go?

    I honestly think that going straight to the source, the people who hire them, would be much speedier, and way more effective than anything else. Even though I'd like to see a wall built, I think hiring the 10,000 extra ICE agents, and immigration judges and border patrol agents that Trump promised, along with making E-Verify mandatory, and drastically increasing the fines for employers who hire them, and jail time for second offenders, would be the most effective thing.

    Also, does anyone know whatever happened to Trump's promise about the 10,000 extra ICE agents he wanted to hire, and why he hasn't talked about it again since he ran for president?



    I agree with what you are saying, if it would work like it should work, or the way we want it to work, but that doesn't seem to be happening.

    More BP?----right now they are a welcoming and rescue the illegals committee----more BP would just mean more to roll out the welcome mat.

    ICE----we read about them raiding someplace, but then it seems they turn many/most of them loose---spinning wheels, going nowhere.
    Sometimes they even give advance notice to the employer before they raid.

    I agree crack down on the employers, but at the same time that happens, freebies must be abolished or they will just live off that.
    The way our government is at the moment---I could see them cracking down on employers one day, and turn around the next and add more freebies for them, with the excuse it was the humanitarian thing to do.

    All you suggested would greatly reduce the illegal population, if our government wanted it to, but they don't, and they would screw it up someway, somehow.

    I don't think a wall will even help, our politicians will send small aircraft to help them over and order BP to assist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6 Million Dollar Man View Post
    I know I might sound like a broken record, since this is what I've always expressed as being what I want to see done, more than anything else, but my question is this....does anyone know if Trump ever considered going after the employers of illegal aliens more harshly, and does anyone know if there are any articles out there talking about how, much harsher fines and possible jail time for the employers, would be the way to go?

    I honestly think that going straight to the source, the people who hire them, would be much speedier, and way more effective than anything else. Even though I'd like to see a wall built, I think hiring the 10,000 extra ICE agents, and immigration judges and border patrol agents that Trump promised, along with making E-Verify mandatory, and drastically increasing the fines for employers who hire them, and jail time for second offenders, would be the most effective thing.

    Also, does anyone know whatever happened to Trump's promise about the 10,000 extra ICE agents he wanted to hire, and why he hasn't talked about it again since he ran for president?
    Funding for the new ICE agents was in the House Goodlatte and Senate Grassley DACA deal bills last summer. The number of new ICE agents was 10,000 plus there were also 5,000 new BP agents in those bills, plus 500 more immigration judges and another 1,000 immigration prosecutors. They were part of the White House's 70 point legislative action plan to stop illegal immigration and reduce legal immigration that were put forth in the DACA deal bills. Both bills also had a mandatory employee verification system included, the Grassley bill named the E-Verify program in that bill, and the House bill called for a "mandatory employee verification" system but did not name it as E-Verify, as some people are upset with the E-Verify program because it stores information on US citizens and passes it off to private sourced companies to be used in the E-Verify Plus program and also spreads it across law enforcement agencies, something the original E-Verify does not do.

    We opposed those bills because of the DACA component, and both failed to pass.
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    They go after employers, apprehend the illegal alien, but then do NOT deport them and the whole family!

    Get them all. You just do not do surgery and take out part of the cancer and leave the rest to grow again!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    Funding for the new ICE agents was in the House Goodlatte and Senate Grassley DACA deal bills last summer. The number of new ICE agents was 10,000 plus there were also 5,000 new BP agents in those bills, plus 500 more immigration judges and another 1,000 immigration prosecutors. They were part of the White House's 70 point legislative action plan to stop illegal immigration and reduce legal immigration that were put forth in the DACA deal bills. Both bills also had a mandatory employee verification system included, the Grassley bill named the E-Verify program in that bill, and the House bill called for a "mandatory employee verification" system but did not name it as E-Verify, as some people are upset with the E-Verify program because it stores information on US citizens and passes it off to private sourced companies to be used in the E-Verify Plus program and also spreads it across law enforcement agencies, something the original E-Verify does not do.

    We opposed those bills because of the DACA component, and both failed to pass.
    Okay, if you opposed it, why bother to bring it up? It's water under the bridge.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Beezer View Post
    They go after employers, apprehend the illegal alien, but then do NOT deport them and the whole family!

    Get them all. You just do not do surgery and take out part of the cancer and leave the rest to grow again!
    Unfortunately, I'm not seeing them making big raids anymore and deporting the illegals. Most of the time they're are just doing the audits and having the company fire the illegals. Once fired, the illegals just moves on down the road and takes employment elsewhere.

    You're right about them never seeming to deport the whole family. If they do deport anyone, it's just the individual that was caught, not his family. Of course when this happens we all know the deported illegal will return to be with the family. Sometimes the return is in days, sometimes weeks and sometimes months. However, long it takes, the deported illegal always seems to return. Not deporting the whole family is probably the biggest reason we have so many felony returns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beezer View Post
    They go after employers, apprehend the illegal alien, but then do NOT deport them and the whole family!

    Get them all. You just do not do surgery and take out part of the cancer and leave the rest to grow again!
    I know, I think that's bulls**t. BUT, even if ICE let the illegals go free, if we put enough pressure on the employers, by making them pay crippling fines, and a jail sentence for a second offense, NO ONE would be stupid enough to ever hire them in the first place. If that was in place, and ICE did allow the illegals to go free, they still wouldn't be able to get a job anywhere else, because no one would be willing to hire them, knowing that they will basically be destroyed if they even attempted to. ICE wouldn't need to deport them then, because they would all SELF-DEPORT if no one is willing to hire them. That's why I think it's so important to go straight after the employers who hire them. If we take care of the disease at its source, the rest of the cancer will disappear with us not needing to do anything further.

    I think this is very obvious, and everything else is nothing but cat and mouse games. If we get rid of the dangling-carrot that attracts them here in the first place, no one will ever bother coming here again, and the ones who are already here will self-deport.

    I think they would rather go back to their country instead of sitting on a street corner with a mug, begging for money. We need to go after the source that attracts them here in the first place, the people who hire them, VERY, VERY, HARD! The rest will take care of itself, and they will all self-deport, without us having to lift a finger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post


    Once fired, the illegals just moves on down the road and takes employment elsewhere.

    That's why we need to make it very miserable for the employers in the first place. If we put policies in place, like I said before, VERY HEAVY fines, and jail times for second offenders, not only will that particular employer never hire them again, but no else......down the road....will hire them either.

    If hiring illegals becomes crippling to businesses, then no one will hire them in the first place.


    NOTE: And of course, I would like to see the illegals deported as well, to make it miserable for them also. Along with confiscating whatever they accumulated while here.....homes, vehicles, bank accounts, etc.

    That's why we need the 10,000 extra ICE agents, and the others. And not just to deport these people, but also for us to have enough man-power to go after these criminal employers.


    BUT,
    the first thing to do is to drastically increase the fines for employers, and add jail time for second-offenders, in order to put tremendous pressure on the employers from the start.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post
    Okay, if you opposed it, why bother to bring it up? It's water under the bridge.

    I supported the 70 point legislative plan. I opposed the 71st point which was the DACA renewals. I still support the 70 point plan and hope one day Republicans have enough seats to have enough votes while this President is in office to pass it.
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