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    Activists scramble amid reports Trump to end protections for ‘Dreamers’

    Activists scramble amid reports Trump to end protections for ‘Dreamers’

    08/25/17 04:36 PM EDT



    Supporters of an Obama-era program protecting so-called “Dreamers” from deportation are scrambling amid reports that President Trump is close to ending the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program.

    NBC News’s Pete Williams and Julia Ainsley reported Friday that Trump appears poised to pull the plug on the program that would affect nearly 1 million people.

    The Department of Homeland Security sent a recommendation to the White House earlier this week about the program, NBC reported, while Attorney General Jeff Sessions met with senior officials Thursday at the White House.

    Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton (R) has threatened to challenge DACA in court if the Trump administration doesn't rescind it by Sept. 5.The NBC report followed a report by Axios on Thursday that Trump is “seriously considering” terminating the program.

    Lawmakers and activists who want the program's recipients to retain their benefits have been pushing back.

    Activists held a rally outside the White House on Friday demanding that Trump maintain and defend DACA. It was the second such rally in 10 days, after an Aug. 15 rally celebrating the program's fifth anniversary ended in the arrest of Rep. Luis Gutiérrez (D-Ill.).

    Rep. Jeff Denham (R-Calif.) and five other Republican members wrote to Trump on Thursday asking him to maintain the program, arguing DACA recipients did not willfully violate the law and contribute positively to the U.S. economy.

    “It is in the best interest of our nation to continue DACA until we can pass a permanent legislative solution, such as the Republican-backed Recognizing America's Children Act,” read the letter.

    The letter was also signed by Reps. Dan Donovan (N.Y.), Carlos Curbelo (Fla.), David Valadao (Calif.), Don Bacon (Neb.) and Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (Fla.).
    DACA was enacted by President Obama and gave work permits and deferral from deportation to nearly 800,000 immigrants brought into the country illegally as children.

    The White House on Friday didn’t say what the future held for DACA.

    “[DACA] is under review, it continues to be under review and as soon as we have an announcement we'll let you know,” said White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders.

    Activists are taking a stronger tone in their defense of DACA.

    “There’s no defensible reason for Donald Trump to end DACA. Any attempt to undermine this program would be an attack on immigrant communities and a clear sign that the president cares more about his standing among the kinds of far-right zealots we saw in Charlottesville than the lives of young people all across the country,” read a statement released Friday by People for the American Way (PFAW).

    The potential lawsuit, threatened by Paxton and nine other attorneys general, is expected to follow the path laid out by a successful court action against another Obama program, Deferred Action for Parents of Americans (DAPA).

    That program was never put into action, because it was blocked by U.S. District Judge Andrew Hanen, who's expected to preside over the DACA lawsuit.

    But there's debate as to whether DACA’s opponents can successfully file for an injunction, as plaintiffs would have to prove the program is damaging to them, a tough sell for a program that’s been in effect for five years.

    And the administration's reluctance to defend DACA has contributed to a split between Trump and Senate Republicans, some of whom have made it a priority to defend the program's recipients.

    Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) teamed up with Sen. Richard Durbin (D-Ill.) to promote the Dream Act, which would essentially put DACA into law.

    And Trump has taken aim at Republicans who have expressed sympathy for DACA recipients, most notably Sen. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.), who on Thursday said a border wall — Trump's signature border security proposal — is “a bit out there.”

    Still, DACA activists are taking the threat to rescind the program seriously.

    “If news reports are true, and DACA may soon be rescinded, Trump will have broken that promise and ripped the rug out from under 800,000 young people that are woven into the fabric of our communities and families,” said Center for American Progress President and CEO Neera Tanden. “It’s shocking and outrageous but not surprising, especially given the recent events in Charlottesville and the administration’s continued assault on communities of color.”

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    They are illegal aliens and have no right to demand anything from our President or the American people.

    There’s no defensible reason for Donald Trump to end DACA. Any attempt to undermine this program would be an attack on immigrant communities and a clear sign that the president cares more about his standing among the kinds of far-right zealots we saw in Charlottesville than the lives of young people all across the country,”

    Trump is doing what he promised the American people he would do if we elected him, and that is to put Americans first.

    All the illegal alien parents need to deport themselves and there anchor babies and go back to there home country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lorrie View Post
    They are illegal aliens and have no right to demand anything from our President or the American people.




    Trump is doing what he promised the American people he would do if we elected him, and that is to put Americans first.

    All the illegal alien parents need to deport themselves and there anchor babies and go back to there home country.
    Exactly. NO DEAL ON DACA. END IT NOW.
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    Wow!! a million.

    I don't know why that surprises me, it shouldn't.

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    What a relief to get the ONE MILLION out of here and their families!

    No amnesty, no path to stay...your FREE ride is over!

    Build the Wall and deport within 24 hours.
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    DO NOT REWARD THEM - DEPORT THEM ALL

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    But there's debate as to whether DACA’s opponents can successfully file for an injunction, as plaintiffs would have to prove the program is damaging to them, a tough sell for a program that’s been in effect for five years.

    Just because it's been in effect for 5 years doesn't make it right. Those 5 years were under Obozo ( well, 4 years and 2 months) we all know he did that to thumb his nose at US! Those DACA recipients are receiving things our kids are not even being offered.. so YES IT IS HARMING US. And they're getting these things simply because they are illegal, some of these Universities are bending over backwards to give them FREE tuition or at least reduced rates while OUR kids pay the full bill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nntrixie View Post
    Wow!! a million.

    I don't know why that surprises me, it shouldn't.
    There was less than that when Trump was elected. Even though he promised to end the program immdiately, he chose instead to break his promise and continue the amnesty by continuing to accept and approve new DACA member applications.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nomas View Post
    But there's debate as to whether DACA’s opponents can successfully file for an injunction, as plaintiffs would have to prove the program is damaging to them, a tough sell for a program that’s been in effect for five years.

    Just because it's been in effect for 5 years doesn't make it right. Those 5 years were under Obozo ( well, 4 years and 2 months) we all know he did that to thumb his nose at US! Those DACA recipients are receiving things our kids are not even being offered.. so YES IT IS HARMING US. And they're getting these things simply because they are illegal, some of these Universities are bending over backwards to give them FREE tuition or at least reduced rates while OUR kids pay the full bill.
    It's disgusting what's going on and Americans need to rise up in 2018 and tell the political field, NO MORE, GET THEM OUT.

    But like I've been posting for months, there will be thousands and thousands of lawsuits if this isn't done right. I don't know if they'll win anything but the lawsuits will be filed on one stupid claim after another. I think the way it's being set up right now connected with the Texas lawsuit reduces the chance of any winnable lawsuit against the federal government.
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    I pray DAILY that you're right Judy! I am so sick of all of this. And the TRUTH of the matter is that the longer they are allowed to stay here the bolder and more demanding they become.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    It's disgusting what's going on and Americans need to rise up in 2018 and tell the political field, NO MORE, GET THEM OUT.

    But like I've been posting for months, there will be thousands and thousands of lawsuits if this isn't done right. I don't know if they'll win anything but the lawsuits will be filed on one stupid claim after another. I think the way it's being set up right now connected with the Texas lawsuit reduces the chance of any winnable lawsuit against the federal government.
    There would have been no valid lawsuits because there was no law to defend against. The DACA program was inacted through a departmental memorandum, not a law. A memorandum can be cancelled just as easily as it was written and without legal ramifications.

    The Secretary of DHS should have, at Trumps request, cancelled the memorandum that created DACA. Doing so would have kept Trump's campaign pledge to end the illegal program.

    If DACA ends now because of lawsuit, it will be in spite of Trump, not because of him. Whatever happens, he failed to keep his promise to the American people.

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