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    SOB-Mixed-Race Couples Face Violence in Pennsylvania Town

    Forbidden Love: Mixed-Race Couples Face Violence in Pennsylvania Town

    El Diario/La Prensa, News Report, By Cristina Loboguerrero, Translated by Suzanne Manneh, Posted: Aug 23, 2008

    Editor's Note: The small town of Shenandoah, Pa., made headlines last month when a Mexican man was beaten to death by a group of white teenagers. The boys reportedly shouted slurs at the man and his girlfriend, who is white. La Opinión writer Cristina Loboguerrero reports on the phenomenon of mixed-race relationships in this small town.
    

    SHENANDOAH, Pa.— They are united by their love for each other, their children and their commitment to maintain a strong family. But every day, they must contend with disapproving looks and, sometimes, insults shouted at them because they belong to different ethnic groups.

    This is the story of the many couples in interracial relationships, mostly white women and Mexican men, who live in the town of Shenandoah, Pa. This summer, the town garnered national media attention when a group of white teenagers killed a Mexican man who had a white girlfriend.

    Amid an environment of racial harassment, these couples also live with the uncertainty that they could one day be separated because their partner is not in the United States legally.

    This is the case of Ruben*, a 39-year-old Mexican, who came to Shenandoah 10 years ago and lives with his partner of five years, 28-year-old Susan*.

    Marriage is not a possibility for Ruben, who entered the country illegally and would need to return to Mexico and wait for 10 years before gaining legal status. He prefers to stay here with his three children and his girlfriend, ignoring the occasional insults shouted at him in the street by white teenagers, who call him a "dirty Mexican" or a "wetback."

    Susan says she has also been the object of disapproving glances and comments for having a Mexican partner.

    "It doesn't happen every day, but occasionally they've told me that I'm dirty to be with a 'dirty Mexican,'" says Susan. "I feel more welcome in the Latino community," she adds.

    Susan sadly recalls the life of Luis Martinez and his girlfriend, Crystal Dillman, who suffered similar harassment on many occasions. On July 12, Martinez was beaten by four white teenage boys as they yelled racial slurs at him. He died 30 hours afterwards in a local hospital.

    Dillman, a mother of three — two with Martinez — did not get married because the couple had planned to move to Mexico, far from the insults and stares of Shenandoah. She says Shenandoah residents have screamed "dirty Mexican," at her boyfriend on various occasions.

    Another couple that has faced the hostile environment of Shenandoah is 32-year-old Felipe* and his girlfriend, Anne*. A native of Guanajuato, Mexico, Felipe works as a gardener and has lived for six years with Anne and their two children, who are two and four years old.

    Although they may get married, Felipe says he doesn't want to. "I don't want people to say that she married me so I could get my papers," he says. "I am with her because I love her."

    Anne says she respects his decision, but hopes that he can change his mind: She knows single mothers in Shenandoah whose undocumented partners have been deported.

    Yet, discrimination in East Pennsylvania is not limited to Latino men and white women. Latina women who are dating white men are also harassed.

    Ana Taveras, who is Dominican, is married to Raymond Schuman. The couple, who lived together for seven years before they got married and had a 5-year-old daughter together, still faces discrimination. Living in Hazelton, Pa., Taveras says she has to listen to people tell her husband that "'he could have done better.'"

    Taveras says that when you marry someone from another culture, "there are a lot of barriers you have to break, everything from food to clothing and music. It isn't easy, but fortunately, my husband has been able to adapt to my culture well," she says.

    The couple moved to Shenandoah two years ago, where Taveras says she hasn't felt discriminated against because people didn't know that she was Latina.

    About 500 out of Shenandoah's 5,000 residents are Latino. The town is located in the coal mining area of eastern Pennsylvania and, despite the lack of official figures, interracial marriages here have increased in recent years and today could number 80 families.

    The local Annunciation church has become a haven for many of these couples. Approximately 100 people attend Annunciation church's Spanish services, and at least 20 of those families consist of white women and Latino men, the majority of whom are of Mexican origin.

    Even though most of these women do not speak Spanish, they participate in the mass. The children speak English with their mother, and Spanish with their father.

    Various couples of white women and Mexican men say they have to endure the discrimination of belonging to different ethnic groups, as well as offensive slurs and the stares. But what bothers them most, they say, is the lack of tolerance in a town that is barely a mile long and has a church on every two blocks.

    Yet, there are a few couples that have been fortunate to experience no discrimination here. Margaret and Pedro, who have been together for two years, say they "have never felt attacked," and explain that they live a life like any other couple.

    But they agree on one thing: The white women who have chosen to be with Latino men say it is because they are more "loving, more responsible, and have a clear concept of family and also prefer working two shifts so they can be home caring for their children."



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    This should read "gullible American women shocked when green card seeking American lovers are deported and they are left caring for their anchor babies all alone"
    We can't deport them all ? Just think of the fun we could have trying!

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    Marriage is not a possibility for Ruben, who entered the country illegally and would need to return to Mexico and wait for 10 years before gaining legal status.
    Why is that? Was he already deported at least once? Because returning on his own and then applying wouldn't ban him for ten years!

    Susan sadly recalls the life of Luis Martinez and his girlfriend, Crystal Dillman, who suffered similar harassment on many occasions. On July 12, Martinez was beaten by four white teenage boys as they yelled racial slurs at him. He died 30 hours afterwards in a local hospital.
    I know he had several aliases, I mean come on, what law-abiding illegal alien doesn't need them, but his name in all other reports is Luis Ramirez. Did this writer just get mixed up, or do we have another alias to run a background check on?


    Although they may get married, Felipe says he doesn't want to. "I don't want people to say that she married me so I could get my papers," he says. "I am with her because I love her."
    Suddenly he cares what people think?

    Taveras says she has to listen to people tell her husband that "'he could have done better.'"
    And they couldn't possibly mean that she is just a loser and might not have anything to do with her ethnicity?

    But they agree on one thing: The white women who have chosen to be with Latino men say it is because they are more "loving, more responsible, and have a clear concept of family and also prefer working two shifts so they can be home caring for their children."
    Bwahahahaha That is hysterical!

    Translation: I'm a lazy white trash scumbag who can't keep a job of my own for more than 3 days or so, so I hook up with this guy who is ILLEGAL so we can pay almost no taxes and I can sit on my butt all day and troll latino websites.
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    Talk about a propaganda mixed with fluff piece! They are sure milking this story for all its worth!!

    It appears as if 10% of the 5000 people in Shenandoah are hispanic, and many of those appear to be illegal, atleast based upon this story.

    Maybe the hostility towards hispanics is due to the fact that illegals are moving in and taking away mining jobs from American citizens in that town. Why so many illegal hispanics are coming to a town that is barely a mile long. Something is attracting them.

    I like this statement:

    Taveras says that when you marry someone from another culture, "there are a lot of barriers you have to break, everything from food to clothing and music. It isn't easy, but fortunately, my husband has been able to adapt to my culture well," she says.
    Notice how it was HE who had "barriers to break," as it was he who "adapted to her culture well." Heaven forbid she be asked to give up her "culture!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoBueno
    Talk about a propaganda mixed with fluff piece! They are sure milking this story for all its worth!!

    It appears as if 10% of the 5000 people in Shenandoah are hispanic, and many of those appear to be illegal, atleast based upon this story.

    Maybe the hostility towards hispanics is due to the fact that illegals are moving in and taking away mining jobs from American citizens in that town. Why so many illegal hispanics are coming to a town that is barely a mile long. Something is attracting them.

    I like this statement:

    Taveras says that when you marry someone from another culture, "there are a lot of barriers you have to break, everything from food to clothing and music. It isn't easy, but fortunately, my husband has been able to adapt to my culture well," she says.
    Notice how it was HE who had "barriers to break," as it was he who "adapted to her culture well." Heaven forbid she be asked to give up her "culture!"
    NO BUENO: YOU TOOK THE WORDS RIGHT OUT OF MY MOUTH. I NOTICED THIS RIGHT AWAY TOO.
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    Susan says she has also been the object of disapproving glances and comments for having a Mexican partner
    I guess those "disapproving glances and comments" couldn't be because you're shacking up with an illegal alien that is 11 years your senior and are birthing his illegitimate children. In some parts of the country that is still frowned upon. Don't make assumptions lady!


    Another couple that has faced the hostile environment of Shenandoah is 32-year-old Felipe* and his girlfriend, Anne*. A native of Guanajuato, Mexico, Felipe works as a gardener and has lived for six years with Anne and their two children, who are two and four years old.

    Although they may get married, Felipe says he doesn't want to. "I don't want people to say that she married me so I could get my papers," he says. "I am with her because I love her."
    You wouldn't be hesitant because you have a wife and three children in Guanajuato would you? Just thought I'd ask.

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    I am disturbed by the race baiting angle of this story. Hispanics and whites marrying are NOT mixed race couples. Hispanic/latino is NOT a race, it is PC speak covering people who come from spanish speaking countries.

    Black and white, white and asian, asian and black are mixed-race couples and I can tell you that PA has a large number of mixed race couples. It no longer has the stigma it had decades ago.

    As for these specific couples in Shen. valley - look at the examples of the ones who are claiming to have problems and other couples who have no problems.

    Dillman's boyfriend was out late at night with her 15 year old sister. That would raise a red flag in my book.

    The ones who claim to have problems are living with an illegal alien, not married, and may have kids by more than one man.
    How much of that is the reason why they may be having problems? It's not based on race.
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    Quote Originally Posted by miguelina
    I am disturbed by the race baiting angle of this story. Hispanics and whites marrying are NOT mixed race couples. Hispanic/latino is NOT a race, it is PC speak covering people who come from spanish speaking countries.

    Black and white, white and asian, asian and black are mixed-race couples and I can tell you that PA has a large number of mixed race couples. It no longer has the stigma it had decades ago.

    As for these specific couples in Shen. valley - look at the examples of the ones who are claiming to have problems and other couples who have no problems.

    Dillman's boyfriend was out late at night with her 15 year old sister. That would raise a red flag in my book.

    The ones who claim to have problems are living with an illegal alien, not married, and may have kids by more than one man.
    How much of that is the reason why they may be having problems? It's not based on race.

    MOST HISPANICS ARE MIXED RACE. THEY ARE CAUSASIAN (SPANISH) AND MONGOLOID (INDIGENOUS). SO EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE PART CAUCASIAN...MARRIAGE TO A CAUCASIAN STILL IS A MIXED MARRIAGE. UNLESS THE HISPANIC PERSON IS 100% SPANISH...IT IS STILL A MIXED RACE MARRIAGE. BUT I AGREE WITH YOU THAT THEIR PROBLEMS MAY REVOLVE MORE AROUND LIFE STYLE THAN RACE.
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    WHAT HAPPENED TO THE WONDERFUL FAMILY VALUES OF THE MEXICANS THAT BUSH TOUTED?

    Seems like they would marry before they start having kids one after another.


    And you can bet the tax payers are supporting the kids!

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    homeboy was prolly caught by teens that knew dillmans sister, he's most likely movin on her too. more bambino better, frickin mud puddle.

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