Thread: Agents Seize 316,000 Bongs Disguised as Christmas Ornaments

Originally Posted by Judy

We need to legalize/regulate/tax the illegal drug trade, run it as a legitimate regulated monitored enterprise and re-assign all customs and DEA agents now wasting their time seizing 316,000 colorful Christmas "bongs" to seizing illegal aliens and distributing them back to their home countries, so US citizens can get their jobs back and buy some Christmas presents for their kids in our country.

I agree. It is just so dumb that our borders are being invaded and they are worried about some pipes. Yes those DEA agents could help to protect the borders and fight crime. They are totally trained and most cities are short of cops these days. I am sure the feds could also use them in federal law enforcement....like to fight gangs or whatever. Pipes...omg.

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Originally Posted by JohnDoe2

If there wasn't a violation of the law they couldn't have seized them.

They can if the person who imported them did not have authorization to do so. I have not verified it yet, but someone told me you have to also be in the business of tobacco sales to be able to import water pipes....to legitimatize the possible use of them. Otherwise it is considered to be meant for drug use. But I still have to check that out to make sure it is true. It makes sense that you would have to be authorized to sell tobacco if you want to sell the pipes that supposedly are used for tobacco. Especiially when they are so often used for drugs. So even though the pipes themselves may not be illegal if used with tobacco, there is still a violation of the law if the person who imported them was not authorized to do so.

Originally Posted by JohnDoe2

Originally Posted by redpony353

They are suppose to be looking for drugs and illegals.....not bongs. Bongs are not illegal, are they?

Possession, sales and import of drug paraphernalia is illegal.

In Texas it is not, unless it has been used for drug use.

It would have to have resin residue, that tested positive for THC

Originally Posted by Floorguy

Originally Posted by JohnDoe2

Originally Posted by redpony353

They are suppose to be looking for drugs and illegals.....not bongs. Bongs are not illegal, are they?

Possession, sales and import of drug paraphernalia is illegal.

In Texas it is not, unless it has been used for drug use.

It would have to have resin residue, that tested positive for THC

Yes that is what someone in another forum told me also about California. The drug residue transforms the classification of the pipe to drug paraphanelia.

Originally Posted by redpony353

Originally Posted by Judy

We need to legalize/regulate/tax the illegal drug trade, run it as a legitimate regulated monitored enterprise and re-assign all customs and DEA agents now wasting their time seizing 316,000 colorful Christmas "bongs" to seizing illegal aliens and distributing them back to their home countries, so US citizens can get their jobs back and buy some Christmas presents for their kids in our country.

I agree. It is just so dumb that our borders are being invaded and they are worried about some pipes. Yes those DEA agents could help to protect the borders and fight crime. They are totally trained and most cities are short of cops these days. I am sure the feds could also use them in federal law enforcement....like to fight gangs or whatever. Pipes...omg.

Exactly. If we promoted this right, we could solve 3 birds with 1 stone. Pass the FairTax, (force illegal aliens while here to pay the same taxes as US citizens), legalize/regulate/tax under the FairTax the illegal drug trade (shut down illegal alien controlled drug gangs working for illegal foreign drug cartels and curtail the illegal aliens in our country running drugs drugs for this illegal enterprise by putting them out of business), reassign all LEO presently "looking for marijuana growing in the home" and "bongs" and wasting their time and our money arresting and prosecuting some poor dude for smoking pot or crack to the illegal alien and human smuggling operations, illegal alien labor networks, illegal alien document theft, identity theft, and all the other crimes they're involved with and our money would be much better spent, illegal immigration would dry up like a rain puddle in a desert, Americans would get their jobs back, go home with all their money and all their relatives presently in jail for non-violent drug charges would be set free to rejoin their families and help support them by going back to work.

It' a win-win-win deal. So it's definitely time for simple pragmatic solutions that solve multiple problems with 1 strategy, to improve life, liberty and working conditions for American Workers with 2 policy changes that stop illegal immigration and tax illegal aliens while they're here while denying them all benefits.

Originally Posted by Judy

Originally Posted by redpony353

Originally Posted by Judy

We need to legalize/regulate/tax the illegal drug trade, run it as a legitimate regulated monitored enterprise and re-assign all customs and DEA agents now wasting their time seizing 316,000 colorful Christmas "bongs" to seizing illegal aliens and distributing them back to their home countries, so US citizens can get their jobs back and buy some Christmas presents for their kids in our country.

I agree. It is just so dumb that our borders are being invaded and they are worried about some pipes. Yes those DEA agents could help to protect the borders and fight crime. They are totally trained and most cities are short of cops these days. I am sure the feds could also use them in federal law enforcement....like to fight gangs or whatever. Pipes...omg.

Exactly. If we promoted this right, we could solve 3 birds with 1 stone. Pass the FairTax, (force illegal aliens while here to pay the same taxes as US citizens), legalize/regulate/tax under the FairTax the illegal drug trade (shut down illegal alien controlled drug gangs working for illegal foreign drug cartels and curtail the illegal aliens in our country running drugs drugs for this illegal enterprise by putting them out of business), reassign all LEO presently "looking for marijuana growing in the home" and "bongs" and wasting their time and our money arresting and prosecuting some poor dude for smoking pot or crack to the illegal alien and human smuggling operations, illegal alien labor networks, illegal alien document theft, identity theft, and all the other crimes they're involved with and our money would be much better spent, illegal immigration would dry up like a rain puddle in a desert, Americans would get their jobs back, go home with all their money and all their relatives presently in jail for non-violent drug charges would be set free to rejoin their families and help support them by going back to work.

It' a win-win-win deal. So it's definitely time for simple pragmatic solutions that solve multiple problems with 1 strategy, to improve life, liberty and working conditions for American Workers with 2 policy changes that stop illegal immigration and tax illegal aliens while they're here while denying them all benefits.

Ditto ...all that you said above. Also some of the DEA agents could be assigned to watch pedophiles when they are released. With the extra manpower, situations like the JayCee Dugard tragedy might be avoided.

DEA agents already have investigative and surveillence skills and that could be put to much better use. There is actually a shortage of good law enforcement in some sectors. Their talent is being wasted. And the jails are full of people who need treatment and are not getting it. So in and out they go and their root problems are never solved through being in jail.

If poor working conditions and lack of job security were addressed in this country maybe less people would be on drugs in the first place. It seems to me that in the past when people could build something during their life and could count on their job....there seemed to be much less drug and alcohol addiction.

Now we have a very depressing situation. Low pay, poor working conditions and lack of job security. And many dont have access to healthcare. Depressed wages has something to do with that. If wages had kept up with the cost of living over the years then people would be able to afford healthcare just like they did in the past.

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Nothing will come of this. Unless the person or people are not licensed to sell these. There is a reason there have been no arrests in this case yet.

Originally Posted by redpony353

Nothing will come of this. Unless the person or people are not licensed to sell these. There is a reason there have been no arrests in this case yet.

They already lost 316,000 bongs. That's a pretty hefty penalty in any country, even if no one ever gets arrested.

They were sent from China. The U.S. can't make arrest there, and China probably won't even envestigate.

They have to be able to prove that the people that they were sent to knew what they were. That's hard to do.