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    Does anyone know if it would be possible for the states to nullify the federal governments ?dictate? to accept "anchor babies" as citizens?

    Using the nullification process, a responsibility of the states when the federal government over steps the Constitution would send a strong statement to the feds that they are indeed worms and weasels of the highest degree and not accepting their mandate refuse to issue American Birth Certificates?

    I might be reaching a bit, but, in my defense, I plead a terrible dislike for worms and weasels.....especially when they wear ties and reside in Mordor on the Potomac.

    Is there something the states can do to refuse to accept citizenship knowing that the 14th was not interpreted correctly by the feds or the courts, and that would include any court. (By the way, just a slight aside, I also believe there are many worms and weasels wearing robes as well as ties!)

    Could the various states read the 14th and threaten the federal government along any such lines as suggested? Denial of benefits? Can the states deny dual citizenship? Or deny those with dual citizenship from holding public office?

    I believe the states have the right to enforce immigration laws, is there anyway they could enforce the intent of the 14th?

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    Quote Originally Posted by roundabout
    Does anyone know if it would be possible for the states to nullify the federal governments ?dictate? to accept "anchor babies" as citizens? . . .
    That answer can only come from the Supreme Court.
    No matter what anyone tells you or what any state does the Supreme Court will have the final say.
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    The tenth amendment says: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibiteded by it to the States, are reserved to the States, respectively, or to the people.

    The tenth amendment was passed after the Constitution was written, so the tenth amendment amended the Constitution. Where does it say anywhere in the Constitution that the States don't have the power to nullify? It doesn't. Therefore the States have that power.

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    JohnDoe2 wrote,
    That answer can only come from the Supreme Court.
    No matter what anyone tells you or what any state does the Supreme Court will have the final say.
    What happens when the Supreme Court turns tyrannical?

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    The tenth amendment says: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibiteded by it to the States, are reserved to the States, respectively, or to the people.

    The tenth amendment was passed after the Constitution was written, so the tenth amendment amended the Constitution. Where does it say anywhere in the Constitution that the States don't have the power to nullify? It doesn't. Therefore the States have that power.
    I agree.

    now this part,

    Therefore the States have that power.
    Not only do they have the power,..but, have the duty bound obligation to nullify infringements by Levithan placed upon its citizens.

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    The power of the federal courts to enforce their decisions in cases is likewise taken for granted, but in fact the courts have no enforcement machinery at their direct disposal except for a few marshals. The judiciary must look to the executive and Congress for help in case of any real resistance to its orders. Whether apocryphal or not, Andrew Jackson's comment, "John Marshall has made his decision, now let him enforce it," reveals the hollowness of the Supreme Court's authority unless it is sustained by the support of its governmental colleagues and the backing of public opinion.

    The above is from a book The American Constitution by Pritchett

    This helps to look at the structure of government in perhaps a different light.

    If the structure is looked at like a "T", a horizontal line being the federal government line of assault upon the people, represented by the Executive, Legislative, and Judicial, then the defensive line is viewed as vertical like a spear, the State, county, and sovereign citizen, then it resembles the assault on the Romans by Hannibal. Brilliant assault!

    The Supreme Court does not have the final say. The people with their contract, the Constitution trumps all! Otherwise a man would be left to the whims of tyrants.

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