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    Donald Trump persuaded by Laredo mayor to temper border wall plan

    Posted: 4:46 p.m. Saturday, Oct. 17, 2015
    By Jonathan Tilove

    In the middle of Saturday’s Texas Tribune Festival panel on the border and the Legislature, state Rep. César Blanco, an El Paso Democrat, asked two of his Republicans colleagues if there wasn’t something they could do to keep Donald Trump from exploiting the border for his own political benefit.

    “Do you think any of us can control Donald Trump?” replied state Rep. Larry Phillips, the Sherman Republican who chairs the House Homeland Security and Public Safety Committee.

    Perhaps not.

    But the panel of border mayors that followed included Pete Saenz of Laredo, who hosted Trump on his whirlwind border inspection tour in July, and may have actually persuaded Trump during their two hours together to slightly moderate his plans for a great wall between Mexico and the United States.

    As Saenz told the American-Statesman after the panel discussion, he was obligated to be a “gracious” host to Trump but also obliged during his border briefing for Trump to explain why the Republican presidential front-runner’s plans for a wall and mass deportations were ill-advised.

    “I told him it was not practical,” Saenz said of the wall. “I told him aside from it being offensive to Mexico, which is our second- or third-largest trading partner, the cost is impractical, and it’s not practical inside Texas, where the Rio Grande sometimes throughout the year is a source of drinking water for livestock.”

    “We’re a ranching community,” Saenz said. “What are you going to do — dam the tributaries?”

    After being briefed by Saenz and Laredo’s city manger, Trump met with reporters, lavishing praise on the two local officials.

    “He did change is his tone a little bit,” Saenz said. “He did say maybe the wall is not appropriate for the entire border and certain sections are not conducive for that.”

    Trump had asked Saenz to meet Trump at the airport for his arrival, and “when he landed, he asked, ‘Is it safe for me to get down (off the plane)?’ In his mind, in his own consciousness, he perceived danger,” Saenz said.

    Saenz said he told Trump there were some protesters but no danger.

    As they were riding along in Trump’s Suburban, Saenz said, Trump took note of all the people who came out to see him, remarking, “Hey, the Hispanics love me.”

    “I said: ‘No, they don’t. They’ve never see a white Republican before,’ ” Saenz recalled. Laredo is 96 percent Hispanic and solidly Democratic.

    The border mayors said the state’s new $800 million investment in border security was both a blessing and a curse — pumping money into the local economy but doing untold damage to the reputation of their communities with people considering investing or visiting the region.

    Blanco credited the legislation to a political atmosphere bracketed by Republican Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick’s campaign for governor and Trump’s campaign for president.

    But Rep. Tan Parker, chairman of the House Republican Caucus, said that ignores the very real threat to safety and security posed especially by drug cartels operating across an unsecured border.

    Parker said the border plan, passed with overwhelming bipartisan support, is “not about politics; it’s about safety … pure and simple.”

    But Rep. Poncho Nevarez, D-Eagle Pass, who lives on the border and represents the largest border district, said: “Borders are always going to be porous — that’s what borders are. The idea of sealing the border, it’s not going to happen.

    “What I object to is being a political piñata,” he said.

    Parker and Phillips said there is no intent to smear the reputation of border communities.

    But Blanco said that whatever the intent, his city and others must contend with the unfair negative fallout, likening it to what Parker’s hometown of Flower Mound had to endure earlier this year because a couple of people held up a “white power” sign at a high school basketball game.

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    “He did change is his tone a little bit,” Saenz said. “He did say maybe the wall is not appropriate for the entire border and certain sections are not conducive for that.”
    This is concerning because I see it as another back-pedal under pressure.

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    Agreed MW.

    Steady Donald Trump, the overwhelming majority of your supporters want that God damned border sealed--period. When you start vacillating with stuff like, maybe not all of it, people like me get really wary. Your popularity is due to the perception that you are strong and a fearless fighter. Fighters do not start using the maybe if, maybe not language. If you loose the image of a fearless fighter, a man who holds his ground and does not retreat or surrender, if you loose that image your campaign will end overnight,

    We patriots have been betrayed too often, and lied to, too often. We love you but our love is fragile, and we will turn on you in an instant if we feel you are going to renege on the wall and deporting illegal aliens.

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    "They’ve never seen a white Republican before,’ ” Saenz recalled. Laredo is 96 percent Hispanic and solidly Democratic."
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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post
    This is concerning because I see it as another back-pedal under pressure.
    Trump, FLIP - FLOP ?
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    I worked with a plastic form material that was very slippery when wet. Build a barrier out of that thirty feet high and top it with stainless steel, such as a chain link fence, and it would be pretty hard to overcome.
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    If only Texas had built a border fence.

    http://www.alipac.us/f12/tx-tpwd-rej...uction-118851/

    http://www.alipac.us/f12/tx-governme...native-121481/

    http://www.alipac.us/f12/tx-supreme-...-fence-150842/


    . . . The Secure Fence Act of 2006 was passed by Congress and signed by President George W. Bush on October 26, 2006.
    The government of Mexico and ministers of several Latin American countries have condemned the plans.[15] Rick Perry, governor of Texas, also expressed his opposition saying that instead of closing the border it should be opened more and through technology support legal and safe migration. . .

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico%...States_barrier


    http://www.alipac.us/f12/texas-first...act%92-268620/ (In 2001)

    Gov. Rick Perry signed into law.
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    San Diego Border Fence Razor Wire Top



    In this Nov. 17, 2008 file photo, a U.S. Border Patrol vehicle stands guard along the border fence with its concertino wire topping it, in San Diego. (AP Photo/Lenny Ignelzi, File)
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    http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2...order-fencing/



    CA. Congressman Duncan Hunter demands feds install border fence
    February 7, 2008

    http://www.alipac.us/f12/congressman...r-fence-96178/

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    My TOTAL support for Mr Trump is based on his BUILD A FENCE and his DEPORT ALL THE ILLEGALS........If he back peddles...then he has lost me.....My Hispanic neighbors (Citizens) LOVE Trump.....cause they want the illegals OUT!!!!!
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    Captainron:

    What a great idea! There must be all kinds of way to construct a really effective fence. I was not aware of the stuff you are talking about and I bet few people know about it. But that certainly sounds like a really effective way to stop the fence climbers. Make a structure that is slippery and block it at the top.

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