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    The Awakening of a Spanish Dragon

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    The Awakening of a Spanish Dragon

    By Robert Miranda

    The right-wing radicals have pressed the notion in the immigration debate that Americans are losing their jobs because of “illegal immigration”.

    This argument is meant to distract from the real issue of employment in the United States of North America and that is Corporate America’s abandonment of the U.S. American worker.

    While many around the nation speak of the economic drain “illegal immigrants” cause our economy, the debate fail to speak point out how big manufacturing businesses in the United States have moved jobs out of this country in order to pursue cheap labor.

    Global competition they will argue is what is causing these corporations to leave the United States in order to compete, and one way to do that is to search for cheap labor abroad. 2

    This argument illustrates one of the fundamental issues being debated in immigration. The reason why undocumented people are in the United States of North America is because of the fact that they’ve been recruited to fill unskilled low-wage jobs the typical U.S. American worker shuns. And as corporations leave the United States in pursuit of cheap skilled labor in countries that have an abundant pool of cheap skilled labor, skilled U.S. workers are finding it difficult to accept unskilled positions that pay less and are work intensive. Americans will not work jobs that pay wages far below to what they have become accustomed hence why most low-wage jobs are occupied by immigrants—documented and undocumented.

    The immigration debate is missing another factor however, and that is the international economic factor. What does the immigration issue in the United States have to do with the global economy?

    Well, some of you may have heard many Latinos saying that America is waking up a “sleeping giant”.

    Most U.S. North Americans will ask, what “sleeping giant?” Latinos only constitute about 14% of the United States population. Furthermore, undocumented immigrants have no political standing in the United States, so how are Latinos able to sway politically the United States government into doing what they want on immigration?

    All one has to do is step back a bit and view this whole immigration matter from a global perspective. Forget for a moment the local issues and recall what took place this month.

    The influence of Latin American countries entering into the U.S. debate on immigration is catching U.S. officials by surprise.

    Recently, foreign ministers from eight Latin American countries entered the U.S. immigration debate urging Congress to pass a "comprehensive" immigration reform package that would provide immigrant workers guest worker status and a way for undocumented immigrants to become citizens; this is unprecedented.

    You have to ask yourself, what is going on here?

    The answer is simple: the United States has lost its influence in Latin America. The immigration issue is now international. The demonstrations mark the first massive example of mass resistance to the desire of the Right-wing to criminalize migrant labourers and to establish fortified borders.

    Latin American nations are telling the United States government to deal with the issue in a manner that is sensitive to the human needs of the undocumented and documented immigrants involved.

    What’s more, you have to attribute this unprecedented action to the fact that China’s influence in Latin America has given Latin American nations, once reliant on U.S. commerce, an alternative market that frees these nations in Latin America from dependency on U.S. commercialism.

    The United States of North America is in trouble economically world wide.

    First, because of U.S. narrow minded political policies in the Middle East, China is now able to hold sway with Arab nations both politically and economically. China is especially making headway into the Middle East as its economy becomes stronger and grows more rapidly; China is in need of oil.

    Second, in Latin America, China is becoming a leading political and economic partner with newly elected governments in Bolivia, Chile, and Peru. It has established strong political ties with Venezuela and has established economic interest with Brazil.

    China also controls the Panama Canal and is able to engage in trade with Cuba.

    So, standing to U.S. policy on immigration by these countries has signaled a new vision of trade and political networking between China and Latin America. This places American corporations at a big disadvantage. Competition for Latin American markets will become strained if the United States of North America’s government continues to press punitive actions against the immigrant community and build fortified walls along its southern border.

    China’s interests in Latin America will grow because of the crazy and zany way the Republicans have been acting against the Spanish speaking immigrant community. The economic impact against the U.S. is ominous. With the Middle East in an uproar and Latin America rising up against U.S. policy against immigrants—the sleeping giant has awakened.

    It is a dragon that speaks Spanish and Chinese.

    Robert Miranda, a frequent contributing columnist to HispanicVista.com (http://www.hispanicvista.com/) is a national award winning columnist, Latino community activist and Editor-in-Chief of the Milwaukee Spanish Journal. Email at: rmiranda@wi.rr.com
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    This is a threat that cannot be averted regardless of whether we in the USA build a wall or not. The influence of China with Latin America, Europe, Middle East and other countries is bound to continue growing especially as we continue to have huge trade deficits with China giving them more power.

    It means we must build up the wall and secure ourselves regardless. We cannot afford to let our country and people spiral downwards any further through the strain of the illegals. Stop that downward spiral now and then lets take stock of other economic strategies...

    Letting ourselves being bullied by penny ante dictators on the issue of immigrants and transgressions against OUR sovereignty wont help any.

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    a Wall

    This is so true and goes to show that our government hasn't been thinking ahead at all, but, going for the big bucks and bullying their way into disaster. Time to elect some clear thinking heads with a punch of good old fashioned patriotism! Any comers?????

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    Re: The Awakening of a Spanish Dragon

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    This argument is meant to distract from the real issue of employment in the United States of North America
    In the what???? Was the North American Union formed last night while I was sleeping? What the hell is this guy talking about?
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    Second comment. What this guy is basically saying is numerous Communist countries are again working together. And our government is asleep at the wheel and actively helping them.
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    You want to know how China compares against Mexico?
    Our leaders need to be building our own people up to be highly trained and capable scientists, engineers - this is done through better education, rather than importing masses of illegal farm labor and construction labor whose children are draining our few school resources while not giving adequate attention or training to our kids to beat our global competition like China.

    this article might be discussing America vs. China in a few years if we keep going in the same direction

    read this

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    How China Opened My Eyes
    An old Mexico hand tours China and is impressed at the nation's fierce drive

    As I walked through the brand-new, $2.4 billion international airport in Guangzhou, China, I marveled at the soaring stainless-steel beams, the four-story, palm-filled atrium, and the state-of-the-art technology. Inaugurated in August, the airport can handle 27 million passengers a year and 1 million tons of cargo from the Pearl River Delta's thousands of export factories. Advertisement

    Just days earlier, as I departed from Mexico City's 50-year-old airport, I prayed that rain wouldn't shut down the two puddle-prone runways. Two years ago, President Vicente Fox set out to build a new airport, but machete-wielding peasants whose land was to be expropriated scuttled the project. Instead of insisting on the importance of a modern gateway to a $627 billion economy, Fox caved in. Today the airport is undergoing a $430 million facelift that merely postpones the capacity crunch, because there's no space to build additional runways.

    As BusinessWeek's Mexico City bureau chief, I have chronicled how China has siphoned precious investment and jobs from Mexico. But it wasn't until September, when I got a fellowship to travel through China for two weeks, that I saw with my own eyes what Mexico is up against.

    The trip was fascinating -- and sobering. Fascinating because China is developing at a pace that is remarkable to behold. Sobering because it drove home to me how stagnant Mexico looks in comparison. I knew China had the edge over Mexico in cheaper labor and lower taxes. But China's real advantage lies in the whole package it offers investors: impressive infrastructure, able managers, an enthusiastic workforce, and -- above all -- spirit.

    What do I mean by spirit? The sense the Chinese have that anything is possible. Case in point: At a Motorola Inc. (MOT ) facility we visited in Chengdu, dozens of software engineers gathered for a lecture on The Seven Habits of Highly Effective People. A bit corny? Sure. But the engineers were listening raptly, determined to learn how they might earn the performance-linked stock options their plant manager dangled before them.

    What else sets China apart? On the streets, I was approached by young people eager to practice the English they had learned in school: In 2002, China made English classes mandatory starting in grade school. In Mexico, English is still optional, even though the country is next door to the world's biggest English-speaking nation. Efraín Payán, a Mexican businessman who also visited China in September on a trade mission, was floored by the Spanish-speaking translators the government provided. "Their Spanish was perfect," he marveled. "They have really worked hard to get where they are."

    The Chinese certainly have a long way to go. Democracy is nonexistent. Pollution is dire. Joblessness is a big problem. But its drive and enthusiasm still give China an edge over Mexico. In an A.T. Kearney Inc. (EDS ) study of the world's most attractive destinations for investment, released on Oct. 12, Mexico fell to 22nd place, down from No. 3 the previous year. China, meanwhile, has ranked No. 1 for three years. "Unfulfilled reforms in key areas such as telecom, infrastructure, and energy -- and the magnetic pull of China -- have led global investors to rethink Mexico," wrote the authors. "In Mexico, if you ask anyone where Mexico is going in the next three to five years, no one knows," says Carl Rianhard, president of OpenTec, a Mexican developer of Web-based e-learning applications, who has visited China several times.

    What should Mexico do? Invest in better education. Build more highways. Open the energy sector to private investment. Enact real tax reform to pay for all of the above. That's the standard prescription. But how about this proposal: All Mexicans in a position of leadership -- in business, education, or government -- should buy a plane ticket to China now and see for themselves what Mexico is up against. They can fly to one of a dozen major airports China has built in the past decade (vs. one for Mexico), travel along 17,800 miles of highways (Mexico has added just 1,670 miles in 10 years), roam the bustling shopping districts, and see how a giant is reawakening. Then they should fly home and start the serious business of reawakening Mexico.

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