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    OUR TROUBLED PLANET: CALIFORNIA LEADS OUR CRISIS

    OUR TROUBLED PLANET: CALIFORNIA LEADS OUR CRISIS
    By Frosty Wooldridge
    June 9, 2008
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    Last week, Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger declared a drought in California, “Water is like gold! We have to treat it like that.â€
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    as i've posted before on the Arnoldnator . I find him to be a complete Failure ! Any governor that can't admit your budget is broke due to Illegal Immigration is No man in my book . Non a man of the people . Only a Liar
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    As a native Californian, I've been screaming about the water issue for a while now. The tree huggers are more worried about the damage a border fence might do....senseless!
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    The water shortage crisis has been well publicized for YEARS in CA, and yet they IGNORE IT and keep overpopulating us with millions of illegals! American citizens are being punished with astronomical rates and now...water rationing.

    Also, the recycling of SEWER waste was shouted down several years ago, but L.A. has a new DWP chief, David Nahai, an Iranian pal of Antonio Villaragosa. Read this quote from David Nahai in yesterday's Times..what a sneaky (bleep)!!! I don't care how SAFE they claim sewer water is...I am freaking out about it! There MUST be a way to use recycled sewer water exclusively for outdoor use...but NOT for indoor purposes!

    http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me ... full.story

    Turning Los Angeles wastewater to tap water

    Politics killed a 1990s plan to recycle, but drought, technology and Orange County's success offer hope.
    By Rich Connell, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
    June 7, 2008

    In a conference room atop a downtown Los Angeles tower, Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa's point man on water conservation was confidently ticking off the protections built into a plan to recycle highly treated sewage effluent into the drinking supply.

    But when his staff explained that community meetings on the project might not begin until early next year, H. David Nahai quickly grew uneasy.

    "That's too slow, too risky, the Department of Water and Power general manager told his team.

    "Folks on the street who'll hear about wastewater treatment [may] have some reticence about it. . . . The more this languishes, the more the fires of suspicion are going to get fanned.

    "We need to go out quicker."


    The recent session captured the larger political dynamics of Villaraigosa’s ambitious new effort to wean Los Angeles from its increasingly precarious dependence on distant water supplies.

    With a statewide drought, a broad spectrum of early political support and new purification technologies, administration officials think they are well positioned to begin a years-long transition to wastewater recycling for household use.

    But a long shadow is still being cast by the multimillion-dollar collapse of a similar effort eight years ago, when water recycling was dubbed "toilet to tap" and the issue became mired in a mayoral campaign and the San Fernando Valley secession effort.

    "The public piece is always the key," said Raphael Sonenshein, a political science professor who has written about the city's secession era. "You can say the climate is better. It doesn't mean it's going to be smooth sailing."

    Both the scientific and political climates are important, officials acknowledge. At this point at least, each appears more favorable for Villaraigosa than for his most recent two predecessors, both of whom wrestled with wastewater recycling.

    One of the biggest differences environmentally is that Los Angeles will no longer be blazing the trail of water recycling, which has won public acceptance in other regions, most notably Orange County.

    There, officials use multistage, state-of-the-art reverse osmosis, microfiltration and ultraviolet light exposure with hydrogen peroxide to take sewage effluent to near-distilled water quality. The water is then pumped to spreading grounds, where it filters through purifying substrata to mix with underground supplies serving 2.3 million residents across the county.

    "The quality is extraordinary when you run water through that level of treatment," said Mark Gold, president of Heal the Bay, an environmental group involved in coastal and groundwater quality advocacy.

    Nahai said Los Angeles would follow similar recycling steps in its plan to begin adding about 4.3 billion gallons of treated water annually in 2018 to groundwater under the San Fernando Valley.

    During the time it will take to get approvals and build treatment facilities, technology is likely to advance so the city can use even more refined purification systems, Nahai said.

    Indeed, galloping technology is presenting new solutions as well as new questions about water quality, including recycled water.

    Testing has become increasingly sophisticated, finding trace levels of new pollutants and giving rise to concerns about so-called emerging contaminants. They include pharmaceuticals, antibiotics and an array of what are called endocrine disrupters, which have been found to affect development in fish.

    California health officials have not established safe levels for these emerging chemicals because data on health effects for many of the compounds are not yet available. Nor are there approved methods of conducting analyses of such chemicals in water, state health officials told The Times.

    For recycling treated wastewater into underground supplies, the state requires information-only monitoring for the emerging pollutants while encouraging the water industry to help develop standardized testing procedures.

    Such efforts will help the state Department of Public Health "determine how effective the existing treatment technologies are performing," the agency said in a statement.

    Orange County water officials say testing indicates that advanced treatment technologies now available are preventing emerging chemicals from getting through the purification process.

    Emerging pollutants are the type of issue the DWP needs to address openly with the community, officials say, to avoid a replay of the agency's failed 1990s water recycling project.

    After years of planning, state and regional water agency approvals and construction of a $55-million treatment plant, the city abruptly abandoned its wastewater recycling plan for household use after opposition swelled in the Valley, where the process was going to and will take place.

    Candidates in the 2001 mayoral contest -- led Joel Wachs, at the time a councilman from the Valley -- distanced themselves from the project and the risk of offending the vote-rich northern suburbs. Outrage over "toilet to tap" fed into the Valley secession movement, which was gaining steam and moving toward a citywide vote just as the plant was coming online.

    Today, secession fervor has waned and many Valley council members are Villaraigosa allies. Notably, the first politician quoted in a Villaraigosa news release applauding the administration's multifaceted water plan is Councilwoman Wendy Greuel, who represents Wachs' former district.

    Gerald A. Silver, president of Homeowners of Encino and a water recycling critic, has called for a public vote before any treated water goes into groundwater supplies.

    And some environmental groups have complained that the mayor's water plan -- which includes crackdowns on wasters, incentives to replace water-guzzling washing machines and new storm-water-capturing reservoirs -- does nothing to limit growth.
    Others say incentives should be included to replace lawns with drought-resistant landscaping.

    But so far no organized opposition has emerged.

    With a state drought, competition for water from other regions and court rulings reducing Northern California supplies, people are realizing that Los Angeles is an arid city that must become more self-reliant, said Brendan Huffman, president of the Valley Industry and Commerce Assn.

    "We don't have as many options as we did when Joel Wachs raised this," he said, adding that the timing of the proposal, announced last month, may have muted public reaction.

    "I think people are really more concerned about other things going on, like gas prices going up and home prices falling," Huffman said.

    rich.connell@latimes.com

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    "I think people are really more concerned about other things going on, like gas prices going up and home prices falling," Huffman said.
    What could be more important than water? Gas and home values don't mean a thing without water.
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    [quote]“Across the state, many districts and municipalities are instituting or considering recycling, rationing and higher fees for excessive use. For instance, Los Angeles officials recently announced their intentions to begin using heavily cleansed sewage to increase drinking water supplies.â€
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    It's going to be OK with "toilet to tap" recycling.

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