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    98 percent of families who illegally entered the US in 2017 are still here

    by Anna Giaritelli | September 12, 2018 05:10 PM

    Newly released government data shows 98 percent of families who were apprehended after illegally entering the United States from Mexico in fiscal year 2017 were never deported and remain in the country.
    In that fiscal year, which ended Sept. 30, 2017, 94,285 people unlawfully crossed the southwest border from Mexico and claimed to be a "family unit" from El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras, according to Department of Homeland Security information shared with the Washington Examiner.

    [Related: US-Mexico border apprehensions spike past 45,000 in August]

    Of that group, around 1,500 people have been removed from the country, or about 1.5 percent of the total.
    DHS spokeswoman Katie Waldman said legal "loopholes" that mandate families not be held more than 20 days by DHS have allowed people to avoid facing consequences for trespassing because they are not prosecuted, and instead are released.
    “Because of restrictive judicial orders and catch and release loopholes that leave us with no recourse for removal, we are seeing a record number of family units apprehended at the southwest border," Waldman said in an email to the Washington Examiner.
    "In fact, of the nearly 100,000 family units from noncontiguous such as El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras apprehended or encountered at the border in Fiscal 2017, only 1.4 percent of them had been removed by the third quarter of Fiscal Year 2018," Waldman added. "Secretary [Kirstjen] Nielsen has been urging Congress to act and close these loopholes that pull family units to the United States.”
    The rate of deportation was similar for "unaccompanied alien children," or minors who traveled from Central America to the U.S. CBP has said the majority of children come with smugglers, who are tasked with getting them to and across the border, then let Americans law enforcement apprehend them.
    Last year, 31,754 kids from those nations were apprehended by border agents. As of June 30, 98.2 percent of them were still in the U.S.
    When a child arrives at the border without a parent or legal guardian, he or she is turned over to Health and Human Services who will care them until a family member or friend in the U.S. can be located and vetted. Then the child will be released to that person.

    Families apprehended and then released are typically given ankle monitors so Department of Homeland Security officials can ensure they show for immigration court dates in the future. The large majority of families apply for asylum after illegally entering the country.
    President Trump has said those seeking asylum should apply at official ports of entry rather than trespassing. Some groups have claimed people applying for asylum at ports were denied the ability to apply. Customs officials have said due to traffic and other factors, they can only process a certain number per day.

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    You'll see that this is the case since forever. Millions come in every year, and we only deport about 80,000. Do the math. That's why there's over 30 million illegal aliens in the US. That's why deportation hearings need to be moved back to DHS and out of DOJ as soon as possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    You'll see that this is the case since forever. Millions come in every year, and we only deport about 80,000. Do the math. That's why there's over 30 million illegal aliens in the US. That's why deportation hearings need to be moved back to DHS and out of DOJ as soon as possible.
    That would make no difference. AG Sessions is doing what he can but it'll take an act of congress to close the loopholes Sessions can't and to change the necessary laws that the DOJ and DHS can't get around.

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    It has nothing to do with Jeff Sessions. DOJ has been doing this BS job since 2001 or 2002, whenever they formed DHS and moved INS into DHS and for some idiot reason decided to move deportations to the US DOJ. All the years before INS deported the people they arrested and detained and got rid of them like sane normal people. What is going on since they moved this function to DOJ is insanity, dereliction, if not outright sedition, and is unacceptable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    It has nothing to do with Jeff Sessions. DOJ has been doing this BS job since 2001 or 2002, whenever they formed DHS and moved INS into DHS and for some idiot reason decided to move deportations to the US DOJ. All the years before INS deported the people they arrested and detained and got rid of them like sane normal people. What is going on since they moved this function to DOJ is insanity, dereliction, if not outright sedition, and is unacceptable.
    The passage of the Homeland Security Act by Congress in November 2002, brought changes in law.

    If you want to read it, knock yourself out:

    https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/hr_5005_enr.pdf

    DOJ and DHS can't change actual law, that takes an act of Congress.


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    Yes, that is when they moved INS deportations to ... the US DOJ. DUMB!! A big fat fail. Yes of course it requires an act of Congress to move it back. Everyone knows that. Jeff Sessions should have known about this problem while he was still a US Senator and moved it back to DHS. But I bet he voted to move it to US DOJ to begin with!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    Yes, that is when they moved INS deportations to ... the US DOJ. DUMB!! A big fat fail. Yes of course it requires an act of Congress to move it back. Everyone knows that. Jeff Sessions should have known about this problem while he was still a US Senator and moved it back to DHS. But I bet he voted to move it to US DOJ to begin with!

    Just because someone wants to stop illegal immigration, doesn't mean they know how to do it. Law of the Universe.
    Forgive me for saying this, but something tell me Sessions is much more knowledgeable on the issue than you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post
    Forgive me for saying this, but something tell me Sessions is much more knowledgeable on the issue than you.
    Well, actually, no I will not forgive you, because I've no reason to think he is. He didn't do anything in the US Senate for 20 years to stop illegal immigration, you could count on him to help stop an amnesty, but he didn't stop any illegal immigration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    Well, actually, no I will not forgive you, because I've no reason to think he is. He didn't do anything in the US Senate for 20 years to stop illegal immigration, you could count on him to help stop an amnesty, but he didn't stop any illegal immigration.
    Wow, I can't believe you said that. You couldn't be more wrong. Please do your homework. AG Jeff Sessions has been our adamant activist!

    Sessions, like all Senators, only held one vote in the U.S. Senate. You know how the Senate works, so please don't act ignorant. You don't get a lifetime A+ grade from NumbersUSA for simply standing around with your hands in your pockets!


    https://www.numbersusa.com/content/m...adescoresheet/

    Jeff Sessions has always been our friend on any issue related to immigration and border security. That's a friendship that continues to this day!

    A little history on the man your disparaging:

    Opponents of legal immigration hope their ties to Jeff Sessions will influence Trump

    By JOSEPH TANFANI

    JAN 09, 2017 | 1:05 PM
    | WASHINGTON


    Jeff Sessions, President-elect Donald Trump's pick for attorney general. (Jim Lo Scalzo / European Pressphoto Agency)

    When federal prosecutors came to San Diego for conferences in the 1980s, the U.S. attorney there, Peter Nuñez, would invite them to the border to survey the chaotic conditions.

    "No fences, few lights, no cameras. Thousands of illegal aliens coming across the border," he recalled last week.

    One person who went along, he said, was Jeff Sessions, then U.S. attorney for the southern district of Alabama. The two men bonded over a shared belief that too many people were immigrating to America — whether they jumped the border or entered legally.

    Eventually, Nuñez became board chairman of the Center for Immigration Studies, a think tank that pushes for strict curbs on immigration. Sessions went on to be elected senator from Alabama and will sit Tuesday for the start of his two-day Senate confirmation hearing as President-elect Donald Trump's choice to be attorney general.

    Already well known as the Senate's fiercest opponent of immigration, Sessions holds views shaped in part as he forged close ties over several decades to the Center for Immigration Studies and two other groups with similar agendas, NumbersUSA and the Federation for American Immigration Reform. With Sessions poised to be an influential voice on immigration policy in the Trump administration, these formerly fringe groups have their best chance yet to see Washington policy turn decisively in their direction.

    "He's going to do great," Trump said Monday of Sessions, dismissing any possible concerns over his confirmation. "High-quality man."

    Roy Beck, president of NumbersUSA, which organizes grass-roots opposition to pro-immigration measures, said he recognized a kindred spirit in Sessions when he first visited him in his Senate office in the 1990s.

    "You're always looking for the people who understand that legal immigration has to be kept down," Beck said, adding that Sessions immediately agreed with Numbers' argument that more immigrants hurt American workers.

    "He's kept that flame alive. We now have the chief cheerleader for [that viewpoint] as attorney general."

    The organizations have pushed for uncompromising enforcement, and oppose attempts to provide legal status for people in the U.S. illegally. Their ultimate goal, though, is not just to lock down the border, but to dramatically reduce the numbers of immigrants coming to the U.S.

    Sessions plunged into his crucial role in the movement when he helped lead the opposition to the 2007 immigration reform bill supported by former President George W. Bush, which ultimately failed in the Senate.

    "No one played a more important and public role in defeating it," the Federation for American Immigration Reform, which presented Sessions with an award for his work against the legislation, wrote in its newsletter. "Like a grand master chess player, Sessions devised strategy after strategy to block, thwart, delay and ultimately defeat the bill."

    Since then, Sessions has visited the federation's annual Hold Their Feet to the Fire meeting that rallies conservative activists to oppose immigration.

    In 2013, Sessions worked again to derail another bill to reform the immigration system. A lawyer for the Center for Immigration Studies went to work for him on the Senate Judiciary Committee, where Sessions ran the immigration subcommittee, on rallying opposition to the measure; it passed the Senate but never came up for a vote in the House.

    "We were the spearhead of work during that legislation," said the attorney, Janice Kephart, adding that Sessions was "extremely demanding" in insisting that staff analyze the entire 1,700-page bill. "The thing for him on lower immigration really has to do with keeping jobs in America. He did stand out in ways that ticked off his fellow Republicans at times."

    In fighting against the two bills, many Republicans talked about the rule of law and securing borders. But few went as far as Sessions, who adopted the populist arguments of the restrictionist groups, saying that pro-immigration business interests were selling out unskilled American workers.

    He also sided with the groups after Republican leaders wrote a report examining the GOP's 2012 presidential election loss and argued that the party was doomed unless it embraced immigration reform and increased the party's standing with Latinos. Sessions spoke out on behalf of people who opposed immigration as a threat to their way of living, a precursor to Trump's campaign.

    "This election … was lost because millions of dutiful Americans didn't think we cared enough about people like them," Sessions said in a 2013 speech to a far-right group, the David Horowitz Freedom Center. "Is it going to help their children find a job if we legalize 10 million people? I don't think so. The Chamber of Commerce isn't very concerned about that."

    Little economic evidence exists showing that more immigration pushes down wages or cost Americans jobs, according advocates for a path to citizenship for people in the U.S. illegally. They say those views are often a smokescreen to conceal a racially driven anti-immigrant agenda.

    All three groups trace their heritage in part to John Tanton, a Michigan ophthalmologist and population control advocate who sought to create a network of policy organizations to push the cause of immigration restriction. Tanton, who is still listed on the Federation for American Immigration Reform's board of advisors, also wrote about the threat immigrants posed to the "European American" majority values.

    Group representatives say the charge of racism is a canard to distract from a debate about proper immigration levels. The Center for Immigration Studies no longer has anything to do with Tanton or white supremacists, said Mark Krikorian, its executive director.

    "He had a tin ear and no real familiarity with how this issue rankles some people," Krikorian said of Tanton. "He's their hate figure and has given them some ammunition for it." Beck has said NumbersUSA has not had ties to Tanton since 2002.

    The Senate should "hold Sessions accountable" for his long alliance with the anti-immigration groups, Lynn Tramonte of America's Voice, a group that advocates for a path to citizenship for immigrants here illegally, said in an email. "Americans deserve to have a a full and public airing of Sessions' relationship with extremist organizations as part of this process."

    As attorney general, Sessions would have a great deal of influence over immigration issues. Immigration courts would be under his control, and he could instruct prosecutors to file more charges against border crossers and press so-called sanctuary cities to end policies of refusing to cooperate with federal immigration law enforcement.

    Sessions' allies in the immigration control groups are hoping that he goes further, including measures that are likely to make more pro-business Republicans squirm. Beck said he would like to see Sessions ramp up prosecutions of company owners who hire immigrants in the U.S. illegally.

    "He knows that if these businesses were not hiring an illegal labor force, we would not have hardly any illegal immigration," Beck said.

    Sessions, as well as Trump, has joined the groups in arguing against birthright citizenship and what they call "chain migration," in which one family member sponsors others to come to the U.S.

    Questioning of birthright citizenship, which was granted by the 14th Amendment, alarms civil rights lawyers.

    "His legal views on civil rights and immigration law are reactionary," said Joanne Lin, senior legal counsel at the American Civil Liberties Union, adding that the attorney general's job is to "interpret and enforce the Constitution."

    "It would seek to overturn 150 years of constitutional history and move the country back to the time of the Civil War."

    For immigrant advocates, the larger question is how much influence Sessions will wield in the new Trump administration.

    Sessions endorsed Trump early and helped shape Trump's own anti-free trade, build-a-wall message that helped him win over working-class voters in states that have suffered from lost manufacturing jobs. Stephen Miller, a longtime Sessions aide who worked on the senator's immigration initiatives, joined the Trump campaign early last year and will be a senior advisor to Trump.

    The restrictionists were also cheered when Andrew Puzder, Trump's pro-immigration nominee for Labor secretary, said he would support Trump's agenda.

    But Trump has proved willing to ignore even his closest advisors when it suits him, and Sessions' support might not be enough to cement anti-immigration groups' views into policy.

    "It will be interesting to see just what the administration does to accommodate these people," said Liz Mair, a Republican consultant who has worked on immigration reform. "I just don't know that Trump sees the world the same way they do."

    http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-sessions-immigration-20170109-story.html

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    Your article is false. Jeff Sessions didn't have anything to do with Trump's "anti-free trade message". Trump has had that view for 40 years. Trump changed Jeff Sessions view on free trade, and Jeff Sessions made a statement about it when asked and admitted he was wrong all those years on free trade and Trump was right. This was during the campaign.

    I have no problem with Jeff Sessions on immigration, I've told you that many many times. But the fact still remains that when he had influence in the matter of our laws, when he was in the US Senate, no laws were passed to help US with our cause to stop illegal immigration or even reduce legal immigration.
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