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    Bipartisan Visa Program Could Fix Nation's Illegal Immigrati

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    Bipartisan Visa Program Could Fix Nation's Illegal Immigration Mess

    By DANIEL GRISWOLD | Posted Friday, August 14, 2009 4:20 PM PT

    The recession and beefed-up enforcement have temporarily slowed illegal immigration, but the problem is far from fixed.

    As President Obama and congressional leaders prepare to tackle immigration once again, they should learn from the past and create a system that accommodates the future needs of a recovering economy.

    Even with fewer immigrants entering the country illegally, the number already here remains at nearly 12 million. One in 20 workers is here without authorization.

    When the economy begins to grow, that number will inevitably climb again despite our best efforts to enforce the current, broken system. Underlying forces in our economy are simply too strong to be thwarted by piecemeal federal efforts.

    In nonrecession years, the U.S. economy creates hundreds of thousands of jobs each year that require minimal training or skills. We all know where those jobs can be found: retail, gardening, food preparation and service, home and commercial cleaning. The Labor Department projects that 2.9 million such jobs will be added in the next decade.

    At the same time, the pool of native-born Americans that has traditionally filled those jobs continues to shrink.

    In the past decade, the number of adults 25 and older without a high school diploma — the type of workers who have fill those lower-skilled jobs — fell by 3.2 million. Their ranks are projected to fall by 2 million to 3 million in the next decade. The number of workers ages 16 to 24, another source of low-skilled labor, will drop by 1.5 million.

    Yet our current immigration system offers no legal path for anywhere near a sufficient number of immigrants to enter our country to fill those jobs even temporarily. So they enter illegally, by sneaking across our 2,000-mile border with Mexico or entering legally and then overstaying.

    A temporary worker program has been the missing ingredient in the two-decade effort to curb illegal immigration.

    The 1986 Immigration Reform and Control Act legalized 2.7 million illegal immigrants and expanded enforcement, but it did nothing to legalize future flow of workers for an expanding economy. The result was predictable failure.

    In the early 1950s, Congress and President Eisenhower faced a similar challenge. The U.S. Border Patrol was making 1 million apprehensions a year. Congress and the president responded with more vigorous enforcement, but also a large increase in visas for temporary workers.

    The result: Apprehensions at the border fell by 95%. Given the choice, low-skilled immigrants from Mexico chose by the millions to enter legally rather than illegally.

    The challenge for Obama and Congress when they take up a new plan is to create a legal alternative to illegal immigration.

    To be effective, a temporary visa program must provide a sufficient number of visas to meet long-term structural demand, probably 400,000 or more per year.

    The visas must let workers change jobs easily so they can move to sectors where demand is greatest and pay and working conditions competitive.

    A new plan must also create a path to legalization for those already in the work force. This need not and should not be amnesty. That much-abused word means getting off scot-free.

    In contrast, earned legalization would likely require fines, back taxes, security checks and other requirements such as those contained in bills the Senate considered in 2006 and 2007.

    And legalized workers would need to get in line with everybody else should they choose to apply for permanent status.

    A temporary worker program would transform the debate about enforcement. If the large majority of people now entering illegally were to enter legally through normal ports of entry, U.S. border agents could focus their time and resources on apprehending real criminals and terrorists.

    A sufficient inflow of legal workers would drive out illegal workers, reducing the rationale for workplace raids, national identification cards and employment verification systems. Companies that can hire legal workers would not be so tempted to hire illegal workers.

    To overcome political opposition, Democratic leaders must face down labor-union opponents of a temporary worker program, just as Republican leaders seeking a new plan must face down the anti-immigration wing of the conservative movement.

    If advocates of responsibility in both parties can work together to enact a sufficiently robust visa program, the president and Congress could finally fix the problem of illegal immigration.

    Griswold is director of the Center for Trade Policy Studies at the Cato Institute in Washington.

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    How can they possibly justifiy such stupid statements with 30 million (at least) Americans out of work....These kind of idiots just can not wait to overpopulate the United States of America and turn us into another 3rd world nation!
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    A temporary worker program has been the missing ingredient in the two-decade effort to curb illegal immigration.
    There is no such thing as a temporary worker, thanks to birthright citizenship, as well as generous welfare, educational, housing benefits etc., provided by this country.

    Once here, they are not going to leave!
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    We have visa programs out the kazoo, and this guy says we need more? The trouble with visas is that no one checks that these people actually leave when the visa expires.
    Alot of the people that come here illegally are illiterate, others don't want to bother or want nothing to do with government. And I am sure the gangbangers and drug dealers bother with visas.
    Until we get better controls of immigration, we don't need to compound the problem.
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    A temporary worker program would transform the debate about enforcement. If the large majority of people now entering illegally were to enter legally through normal ports of entry, U.S. border agents could focus their time and resources on apprehending real criminals and terrorists.
    Now, everyone who believes this please stand on your head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GaPatriot
    A temporary worker program would transform the debate about enforcement. If the large majority of people now entering illegally were to enter legally through normal ports of entry, U.S. border agents could focus their time and resources on apprehending real criminals and terrorists.
    Now, everyone who believes this please stand on your head.
    I think we need to give the current illegal here temporary visas(just so we can find out who they all are) if they can pass a background check -- we must insist that they never get citizenship and as part of their visa they must renounce citizenship for their anchor and agree to return to their home country at the expiration of their visa and take spounses and children with them.

    Future temporary workers MAY NOT BRING SPOUSES and the visa will NOT provide a path to citizenship.

    I think we may need some temporary workers in the future especially in agriculture -- but not like we have now. TEMPORARY MUST MEAN TEMPORARY.

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    Why do we need temporary workers for agriculture? I use to work in the fields for a summer job. Now a days I think most people would be glad to work in the fields since alot of people can't find a job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by agrneydgrl
    Why do we need temporary workers for agriculture? I use to work in the fields for a summer job. Now a days I think most people would be glad to work in the fields since alot of people can't find a job.
    Well if you live ina city you won't be able to stand up to agricultural work. I grew up on a farm and I do think that for those acres of stuff you need people that are used to that work and since family farms have been replaced by big conglomerate you no longer have kids that are used to farm work. Same with picking apples - you couldn't get a lot of people sto stand on ladder.

    Also on those big factory farms you are talking about acres of one crop say lettuce -- I do think they should mechanize and stop the need for stoop labor altogether.

    We used agriculutural labor from Mexico back in the 40's and 50's and early 60's . It was called the bracero program == worked really well, they came up, worked in farms, part of their wages were withheld and sent back to Mexico -- they didn't come with families -- just men and they want back or got shipped back. However, Ted kennedy made us so away with the program.

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