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    Serrato said he may quit harvesting citrus trees next year because

    the pay is about $100 a day for farm workers,

    while the pay nearly triples for avocado pickers.

    Avocado work pays better, and it's somewhat easier to find helpers, despite the tough work of climbing 40-foot-high trees with rickety ladders, on hillsides in rocky terrain, he said.

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    To use H-2A labor the farmer has to pay the transportation cost from the person's home country and back to their home country after the season is over, plus provide a decent place to live near the work site. They end up costing more than the farmer can pay.
    So instead, the American taxpayer gets to pick up medical costs, welfare and education costs for illegals and their families. What a deal.
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    These farmers shouldn't be having any problems finding help. Dreamers who are young adults should be right there taking those jobs. All the farmers would have to do is give dreamers a ride to the farm and pay for a GED night teacher as a job perk.

    Oh silly me maybe these dreamers aren't as hard working as we're told they are?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayday View Post
    These farmers shouldn't be having any problems finding help. Dreamers who are young adults should be right there taking those jobs. All the farmers would have to do is give dreamers a ride to the farm and pay for a GED night teacher as a job perk.

    Oh silly me maybe these dreamers aren't as hard working as we're told they are?
    Dreamers don't want to work in the fields because every teacher they have ever had has told them they should all go to college, at taxpayer expense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReggieMay View Post
    Perhaps if they would have used one of the several LEGAL options for using foreign labor, they wouldn't be in this situation. These farmers didn't complain when they saved millions by using illegal a/k/a cheap labor.
    It's a vicious circle. Farmers and ranchers hire illegals for cheap, and state and federal governments look the other way. As Barbara Jordan discovered when she looked into the temporary labor markets, when a job becomes associated with immigrants, the locals don't want to do that job. Factor in the low wages that illegals will work for, and a situation develops where citizens don't even think about doing that job.

    This situation can be corrected, but the correction won't happen overnight. Those who profited from illegal labor will have to advertise, pay, and probably even train citizens and legal residents to do this difficult work.

    Consumers will have to pay more. But the increased costs will be allocated among a large number of units, so the costs should be bearable.

    If the federal government would do its job and require universal E-Verify, in a few years we should see Americans once again doing those jobs that they did do before federal and state governments started looking the other way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnDoe2 View Post
    Dreamers don't want to work in the fields because every teacher they have ever had has told them they should all go to college, at taxpayer expense.
    'Bama is telling them the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReggieMay View Post
    So instead, the American taxpayer gets to pick up medical costs, welfare and education costs for illegals and their families. What a deal.

    You're absolutely right, ReggieMay, we're basically subsidizing illegal farm labor. Where is the fairness in that?

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    1. Demographics | Ag 101 | Agriculture | US EPA
    2. www.epa.gov/oecaagct/ag101/demographics.html

    The number of farms in the U.S. stands at about two million. ... The “Corporate” farms account for only 3% of U.S. farms and 90% of those are family owned.



    Family Farms
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    Jun 18, 2010 – ... majority of farms and ranches in the United States are family owned ... family farms account for almost 96 percent of the 2,204,792 farms in ...



    Family farm - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    A family farm is a farm owned and operated by a family, and often passed down ... of Agriculture, ninety-eight percent of all farms in the U.S. are family farms.
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