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    Quote Originally Posted by Dianne
    Instead of being put behind bars, the Chinese man will now be send to a mental institution which will evaluate his condition and then decide where to transfer him for the long term. His case will be reviewed each year to see if he is fit to be released into society.

    With Thursday’s verdict, he will also have no criminal record against his name.
    And once he gets out, he will kill again.

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    millere, this makes me laugh...you remember that movie called "The Truman Show"? That's what it makes me think of.

    Are you experiencing home break-ins with no sign of forced entry but small disruptions or sabotage?

    Example: New Dirt on floor, Sabotage of mechanical devices - TV, Furnace, pipes,AC outlets, computer sabotage, mail messed up.. etc.
    OK, we have this new mailman and I swear that he keeps leaving our bills with someone else, as I don't see them in our mail and then it makes our bills late......and the dirt on the floor thing, yep, I will get up in the morning and there is dirt on the floor and I'll swear I JUST swept...notwithstanding that we have a teen boy who tromps around in boots, a pre-teen girl and four cats....nope, that dirt is not from them!!!!LOL

    These people are really out there.

    As funny as it is, to read that list of "gang stalking" questions, and I mean REALLY funny, it is a really sad that this guy was that mentally ill and he received no help, and the result was taking the lives of innocent people.

    I think it is more sad that his family did not do anything about his strange behavior. Had it been a family member of mine, I would have done all I could to get them help. However, it seems since they were immigrants, they likely felt it was a huge "shame" to say he was not right so they kept it to themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Texas2step
    It appears that this man, like the shooter at VA Tech, is schipzophrenic, and probably has been seriously mentally ill for some time.
    No way tex everyone knows that it was the guns that had total control over him and MADE him kill for a failure for a life..
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    Quote Originally Posted by millere


    This is a common form of schizophrenia known as "gang stalking paranoia". Many victims of this mental illness believe that a "group" forms whose sole purpose is to make the victim's life miserable. As you can see in the letter written above, he believed that "secret police" followed him around and attempted to ruin his life. Victims of this illness cannot come up with logical reasons why this would happen and often snap out of their delusions momentarily when it is pointed out how ridiculous it is to hire police and spend money for no reason at all. The disease seems to be caused by an extreme inbalance in the serotonin or other chemical levels in the brain which enable reasonable social behavior. For some reason when these chemicals are not in the proper balance the victim inhabits a nightmare world in which everything revolves around him and attempts to follow him. Psychotherapy does not help this mental illness; and it can be made much worse if the victime is at work when layoffs are going on and the victim snaps because there is a real example of "gang stalking" (management's manipulation of people during layoffs) and there is an emotional overload.

    Examples:
    Talk about disinformation. Gang Stalking is not a form of schizophrenia. For those who have taken the time to do two seconds of research you will know that it's very similar to workplace mobbing but takes place in the community. The tactics employed are very similar to what the American government previously used in their Cointelpro program, and the East Germany government used under the Stasi.

    Here is a quick definition from http://www.GangStalkingWorld.com

    Gang Stalking is a systemic form of control, which seeks to destroy every aspect of a Targeted Individuals life. A covert investigation is opened and the target is followed around 24/7 by Civilian Spies/Snitches. Overt and covert methods are used as part of the surveillance process.

    The Informants can be parts of these community oriented policing programs, but often they are just average citizens. Just like with Cointelpro investigations, everyone in the targets life is contacted and asked to be a part of the ongoing, never ending monitoring (systemic harassment), which is designed to destroy the target over years and leave them with no form of support.


    A short and simple definition of gang stalking.
    What is Gang Stalking?

    Gang Stalking is experienced by Targeted Individuals as psychological attack, that is capable of immobilizing and destroying a target over time. The covert methods used often leave no evidence to incriminate the Civilian Spies.

    It's similar to workplace mobbing, but takes place outside in the community. It called Gang Stalking, because groups of community Spies organise to stalk and monitor targets 24/7.


    You are welcome to watch this quick video which might give you a better understanding, and you are welcome to read this ebook on the topic.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Mg2RZH0oNU

    http://www.gangstalkingworld.com/Handbo ... TheGap.pdf

    The blatent disinformation is unbeleiveable.

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    Are you deliberately choosing the worst sources?

    Quote Originally Posted by millere


    http://www.websitetoolbox.com/tool/post ... id=1009784

    Here is a Test for Gang Stalking that assess the Severity
    Are you deliberately choosing the worst sources?

    Here is some information about Gang Stalking.

    http://www.gangstalkingworld.com/GSFAQ.html

    [quote]
    What is Gang Stalking?


    Gang Stalking is a covert investigation that is opened on an individual. The individual is then placed under overt and covert forms of surveillance. The person is followed around 24/7. Foot patrols and vehicle patrols are used to follow the Individual around, as part of the monitoring process. During these patrols a one handed sign language is used to assist the citizen informants with communicating to each other.

    Gang Stalking is also systemic form of control, which seeks to control every aspect of a Targeted Individuals life. Gang Stalking has many similarities to workplace mobbing, but takes place outside in the community. It called Gang Stalking, because the target is followed around and placed under intrusive and directed surveillance by groups of organised "Covert Human Intelligence Sources" also known as Citizen Informants 24/7. Using anti-terror laws to spy on ordinary people.

    Many Targeted Individuals are harassed and placed under surveillance in this way for months or even years before they realise that they are being targeted by an organised protocol of harassment.

    What happens during this Gang Stalking surveillance is very similar to what happened to many innocent individuals in the former East Germany or Activists and Dissidents in Russia. Many innocent people in the former East Germany would be targeted for these harassment programs, and then their friends, family, and the community at large would be used to monitor, prosecute, and harass them. In Russia it was used by the state to declare activist, dissidents or anyone they thought to be an enemy of the state as mentally unfit and many were institutionalised using this form of systemic control.

    The closest thing to Gang Stalking that democratic countries have seen before this is McCarthyism, Cointelpro, and RED SQUAD programs. Red Squad programs were used for monitoring, and harassment of various groups. They have been in place for over a hundred years, and they also employed Covert Human Intelligence Sources.

    Civilian Spies, also known as "Covert Human Intelligence Sources" are recruited from every level and sector of society. Just like with Cointelpro investigations, everyone in the targets life is made a part of this ongoing never ending, systemic psychological harassment and manipulation of the target. These actions are specifically designed to control the target and to keep them in line. These actions are also designed to destroy the target over years, make them look crazy and leave them with no form of support.

    For the targets of this harassment, Gang Stalking is experienced as a covert psychological, emotional and physical attack, that is capable of immobilizing and destroying a target over time. For the state it’s a way to keep the targets in line, control them, or destroy them.

    Worldwide programs of control and conformity have been used with equal success and lethality. What we are seeing now is a global co-ordinated and organised effort of control and conformity. Many countries around the world are currently using a model of policing called: Community Oriented Policing. It's described as a systemic approach to policing. It focuses on instilling a sense of community within a geographically located neighborhood. Communities come together and discuss what values they would like to have in their community, community development, and it's also a time to discuss any problems that might be happening in a specific area. If a problem is identified an investigation might be opened. These local programs in many countries have been forming partnerships with other government run programs at, provincial, state and federal levels. Reports of Gang Stalking are not only coming in from democratic countries, but they are coming in from many other countries as well.

    The modern day systemic form of control could only be funded at higher governmental levels, just like it has in other societies where these similar types of harassment programs have been implemented. It's all part of a system of control and conformity that has been in place for many years. A system of control with many local groups and appendages taking part.


    What are the goals of Gang Stalking?


    The goal is to isolate the target from all forms of support, so that the target can be set up in the future for arrest, institutionalisation, or forced suicide. Other goals of this harassment is to destroy the targets reputation and credibility. Make the target look crazy or unstable.

    Other goals involve sensitizing the target to every day stimuli’s as a form of control, which is used to control targets when they get out of line. Once the target is sensitized, the Citizen Informants have an easier time identifying the Targeted Individual in public.

    These programs are designed to make the targets of this harassment vulnerable, they want to make them destitute. The secondary goals seems to be to make the target homeless, jobless, give them a breakdown, and the primary goals seems to be to drive the target to forced suicide, just like what they did with some of the targets of Cointelpro. It's a useful way of eliminating perceived enemies of the state.


    What are other Names for Gang Stalking?


    There are many names for this form of systemic control and harassment. Under the Gang Stalking label you will also find such terms as Organised Stalking, Cause Stalking, Multi-Stalking, Community Mobbing, but it's all part of the same harassment protocol. What many people do not realise is that Gang Stalking is just one appendage of this systemic form of control. There are other forms of control used to repress, and keep individuals in line. Other forms or appendages include, but are not limited to: Mobbing, Cointelpro, The Buzzsaw, Covert War, Electronic Harassment, etc. These are the just some of the names being given to a very old game, that is once again being played by governments on their unsuspecting citizens.


    How are targets chosen?


    Targets can be chosen because of many reasons. They can be chosen for political views. They can be chosen for whistle-blowing. They can be chosen because they belong to a dissident movement. They can be chosen because they asserted there rights at work. They can be chosen because they made the wrong enemy. Were considered to be too outspoken, unwittingly investigated something that the state did not want investigated, signed a petition, wrote a letter. They were deemed as suspicious by a civilian spy/snitch and their names were handed over.

    It’s becoming apparent that targets might be chosen for this systemic form of control, if they are not already in some way a part of this controlled system. Eg. Many Targeted Individuals seem to be unaware that large chunks of our society are now being used as Citizen Informants.


    Who gets targeted?


    Targeting can happen to anyone in society. In the past primary targets of programs such as Cointelpro have been minorities. Targeting however can happen to anyone. Individuals are often targeted for being outspoken, whistle blowers, dissidents, people who go up against wealthy corporations, woman’s groups, (single) women, anti-war proponents, individuals identified or targeted as problems at these community meetings, and other innocent individuals. The majority of the targets are often not aware that they are being targeted in this way. When a target moves, changes jobs, the harassment still continues. Every time the target moves, the same information, lies, and slander will be spread out into the new community and the systemic monitoring and harassment will continue. Traits of those targeted


    Who takes part?


    People from all walks of life are being recruited to be the eyes and ears of the state. People from all races, ages, genders. Every sector of society that you can think of is a part of this. Civilian Spies/Snitches include, but are not limited to: General labourers, the wealthy, bikers, drug dealers, drug users, street people, punks, hip hop culture, KKK, black activists, church groups, youth groups, Fire Fighters, police officers, lawyers, health care workers, store keepers, maids, janitors, cable installers, phone repair persons, mail carriers, locksmiths, electricians, etc. There really is no minimum or maximum age range. An article came out recently in the Uk, saying they were recruiting children as young as eight years old to be Covert Human Intelligence Sources.

    Some of these citizens might be recruited via programs such as, Citizen Corp, Weed and Seed, Citizens On Phone Patrol, (COPP), City Watch, T.I.P.S. Many started with good intentions to help patrol and monitor their cities and neighbourhoods. Others are recruited via their families, others at school, others at work. Since every sector, class, race in society takes part, recruitment is multi-faceted.

    Many do not understand or care that the end consequence of this harassment protocol is to destroy a person.


    Why people participate in Gang Stalking?


    There are many reasons that someone takes part in this activity.

    1. Some do it for the sense of power that it gives them.

    2. Others do this as a way to make friends and keep friends. It’s something social and fun for them to do. Many in society use the one handed sign language to communicate and it's very effective in breaking down race, gender, age, social barriers.

    3. Others are forced or black mailed by the State or the police into taking part.

    4. They are told that they are part of homeland or national security and being used to help keep and eye on dangerous or emotionally disturbed individuals. They see themselves as heroic spies for the state.

    Civilian spies can come from a variety of different programs such as the Citizen Corp, Citizen On Phone Patrol COPP, Weed and Seed, T.I.P.S., City Watch or some other centralized government program used for patrolling and monitoring cities.

    5. Others are just local thugs or Informants who are already being used for other activities, and their energies are just diverted over into these community spy programs. Eg. Some may be given the choice of Spying for the State or the police vs going to jail.

    6. Others are told outright lies and slander about the target to get them to go along with ruining the targets life.

    7. Many are however just average citizens who have been recruited by the state the same way citizens were recruited in the former East Germany and other countries. It's the way the society is.


    What are some techniques used against targets?


    A few of the most common techniques are listed below.

    a) Classical conditioning.

    Getting a Targeted Individual sensitized to an everyday stimuli. The targeted individual over a period of months, or even years is negatively sensitised to an everyday stimuli, which is then used to harass them. It’s used out in public to let them know they are constantly being harassed and monitored. Some examples of everyday stimulus that might be used include: sounds, colors, patterns, actions. Eg. Red, white, yellow, strips, pens clicking, key jangling, loud coughing, loud whistling, loud smacking of clapping of hands together, cell phones, laptops, etc.

    b) 24/7 Surveillance This will involve following the target everywhere they go. Learning about the target. Where they shop, work, play, who their friends and family are. Getting close to the target, moving into the community or apartment where they live, across the street. Monitoring the targets phone, house, and computer activity. Surveillance Policy.

    c) Isolation of said target.

    This is done via slander campaigns, and lies. Eg. People in the targets community are told that the target is a thief, into drugs, a prostitute, pedophile, crazy, in trouble for something, needs to be watched. Files will even be produced on the target, shown to neighbours, family, store keepers.

    d) Noise and mimicking campaigns.

    Disrupting the targets life, sleep with loud power tools, construction, stereos, doors slamming, etc. Talking in public about private things in the targets life. Mimicking actions of the target. Basically letting the target know that they are in the targets life. Daily interferences, nothing that would be too overt to the untrained eye, but psychologically degrading and damaging to the target over time.

    e) Everyday life breaks and street theatre.

    Flat tires, sleep deprivation, drugging food, putting dirt on targets property. Mass strangers doing things in public to annoy targets. These strangers might get text messaged to be at a specific time and place, and perform a specific action.

    It might seem harmless to these Citizen Informants, but it could be causing great psychological trauma for the target. Eg. Blocking targets path, getting ahead of them in line, cutting or boxing them in on the road, saying or doing things to elicit a response from targets. Etc. It's like the death of a thousand paper cuts. One or two minor incidents will not cause any harm to the target, but over time the target is slowly worn down.


    Where does the support or funding for this come from?


    Though Gang Stalking itself is immoral and unethical in nature, programs such as this in democratic countries, and none democratic countries have always been funded by the Government. They are the only ones with enough money, coordination, and power to keep such a system in place. These Co-ordinated efforts then join hands with others for this systemic form of control and harassment.


    "Ruling the community with an iron fist. “Savvy law enforcement types realized that under the community policing rubric, cops, community groups, local companies, private foundations, citizen informants and federal agencies could form alliances without causing public outcry.

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    The Structure of our oppression.

    One more article, this one is called the Structure of our oppression.

    http://www.gangstalkingworld.com/Structure.html

    Structure of Oppression


    The following article will try to put into perspective some of the societal structures that are most likely responsible for the targeting some of those in the Targeted Individual community are experiencing.

    For years Targeted Individuals have been saying that they are being followed around, stalked, monitored while at home, and out in public. They have complained of a system that is capable of 24/7 surveillance, able to harassment at home, work, in the community, and even while traveling abroad.

    For several years there has been a great deal of disbelief that such occurrences could even be possible. The following article, will try to explain referencing sources already available and documented how this could be happening.

    The following article represents the views and opinions of the GangStalkingWorld.com website and does not necessarily reflect the views of any other person, or website in the community.

    It has long been a widely expressed view that the monitoring is being done by various groups of citizen informants, members of various community policing type programs. Based on recent research conducted it seems most likely that the people being used to follow Targeted Individuals around are what society and the government in some countries refer to as, "covert human intelligence sources". They can also be known as Citizen Informants. Another slang terms that is often used to describe these individuals is the term Snitch or Snitches.


    Covert human intelligence sources


    A recent article came out in the London Telegraph, saying that Children as young as 8 are being employed by the state as “Covert human intelligence sources

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    I have no problem believing that the communist governments might use such tactics, but here in the U.S., involving ones own family members? No, sorry I do not buy that any Americans, especially ones own family would be involved in such a thing.

    This man, who killed these people, may have been treated in such a way in China for his beliefs, and maybe it so undid him that by the time he immigrated here, he had in essence, lost his mind, which sent him into this senseless rage of violence, thus the taking of completely innocent lives.

    I cannot see that we, as a society, should be allowing people who fly into a mad rage and kill, any reason to excuse their behaviors to lessen their responsibility for it.
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