Thread: White House Vigil: Protesting Amnesty on Presidents Day

I would like to propose holding a protest vigil against Reid's amnesty on the afternoon of President's Day near the White House gates. The purpose for this would be to get the organizations NumbersUSA and ALIPAC in the national news coverage around the ball the following evening. If anyone here is able to attend please contact me
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I agree totally. If I were not on the West/left Coast I'd be there.

This is an EXCELLENT idea...

IF and only IF you can get substantial numbers. This has backfired on us more than once. I would say you need a minimum of 1000 people

It only backfires if you claim you are going to get substantial numbers. If you call it a rally and predict hundreds and ten show up then well then yes you are a failure. Ten people is adequate for holding a vigil and it is a success if that many show for an issues information table.

Originally Posted by Richard

It only backfires if you claim you are going to get substantial numbers. If you call it a rally and predict hundreds and ten show up then well then yes you are a failure. Ten people is adequate for holding a vigil and it is a success if that many show for an issues information table.

Great points Richard!

I'd also like to add that, personally, I think that describing something as a rally or protest tends to make a great majority of people shy AWAY from events due to the negative image, of radical behavior and violence, which those words have come to represent.

A vigil, however, is something completely different and a concept the American people are much more comfortable with.

I think your idea is an excellent one Richard and if I lived closer I'd be honored to attend.

But I certainly wish you all the best in putting this together

Originally Posted by Richard

It only backfires if you claim you are going to get substantial numbers. If you call it a rally and predict hundreds and ten show up then well then yes you are a failure. Ten people is adequate for holding a vigil and it is a success if that many show for an issues information table.

Point well taken

Originally Posted by Richard

It only backfires if you claim you are going to get substantial numbers. If you call it a rally and predict hundreds and ten show up then well then yes you are a failure. Ten people is adequate for holding a vigil and it is a success if that many show for an issues information table.

If ONE person shows up (other than the organizers) than it is certainly NOT a failure!

You don't 'need 1000' people to make a point. You only need one or two with the right idea.

Originally Posted by SeaTurtle

Originally Posted by Richard

It only backfires if you claim you are going to get substantial numbers. If you call it a rally and predict hundreds and ten show up then well then yes you are a failure. Ten people is adequate for holding a vigil and it is a success if that many show for an issues information table.

If ONE person shows up (other than the organizers) than it is certainly NOT a failure!

You don't 'need 1000' people to make a point. You only need one or two with the right idea.

I agree Sea Turtle.

However, there IS that double standard in play when it comes to what is considered.....and broadcast....as a "failure" depending upon which side of the immigration issue one is on.

If you are opposed to illegal......and even the out of control legal immigration we're being deluged by........and hold a "rally" or "protest" which has a low turn out, you're subject to ridicule, portrayal as a "failure" and the low turnout is used as so called "proof" that Americans don't mind being displaced and overrun by immigrants of any sort.

On the other hand.....if you're on the "pro" side of the issue and there is almost zero turnout for an event, it is still portrayed as a "successful" protest or rally, high praises being sung to the few standing up for the "rights" of many......blah, blah, blah.

It sucks, but that's just the way it is.

Originally Posted by azwreath

Originally Posted by SeaTurtle

Originally Posted by Richard

It only backfires if you claim you are going to get substantial numbers. If you call it a rally and predict hundreds and ten show up then well then yes you are a failure. Ten people is adequate for holding a vigil and it is a success if that many show for an issues information table.

If ONE person shows up (other than the organizers) than it is certainly NOT a failure!

You don't 'need 1000' people to make a point. You only need one or two with the right idea.

I agree Sea Turtle.

However, there IS that double standard in play when it comes to what is considered.....and broadcast....as a "failure" depending upon which side of the immigration issue one is on.

If you are opposed to illegal......and even the out of control legal immigration we're being deluged by........and hold a "rally" or "protest" which has a low turn out, you're subject to ridicule, portrayal as a "failure" and the low turnout is used as so called "proof" that Americans don't mind being displaced and overrun by immigrants of any sort.

On the other hand.....if you're on the "pro" side of the issue and there is almost zero turnout for an event, it is still portrayed as a "successful" protest or rally, high praises being sung to the few standing up for the "rights" of many......blah, blah, blah.

It sucks, but that's just the way it is.

Thank you for making my point better than I did