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    Border Patrol Ordered to “Negotiate” with Illegal Immigrants in Arizona

    Border Patrol Ordered to “Negotiate” with Illegal Immigrants in Arizona

    JUNE 16, 2017

    Update: Subsequent to Judicial Watch reporting this incident Border Patrol management felt compelled to serve a warrant on the “Samaritan camp,” which agents had been waiting for three days to obtain.

    Despite President Trump’s pledge to tighten border security Border Patrol agents in one of the nation’s busiest sectors for illegal immigrants and drugs were ordered this week to stand back after a surveillance camera recorded a group entering the U.S. from Mexico, federal law enforcement sources told Judicial Watch. The incident occurred in the vast desert terrain between Arizona and Mexico, Border Patrol officials said. An agency Buckeye camera operated out of a mobile truck recorded the illegal crossers entering through Nogales, a town of around 20,000 adjacent to the Mexican state of Sonora. The video camera is used by the Border Patrol to monitor areas for illegal crossings and can be panned to follow crossers’ movements, sources told Judicial Watch.


    Upon crossing the border, the group of illegal immigrants entered what the feds refer to as a “Samaritan camp,” according to a Border Patrol official who spoke on the condition of anonymity out of fear of retaliation from Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly’s management team. The special camps are operated by an Arizona-based open borders advocacy group called No Más Muertes (No More Deaths) and consist of several trailers on private property. The nonprofit’s mission is to end death and suffering in the Mexico-U.S. borderlands and enact immigration reform in America. Besides the “Samaritan camps” along the Mexican border, the organization leaves water, food, blankets and other supplies along trails used by illegal immigrants to travel north. No Más Muertes also has staff in Mexico to provide phones for deportees and assistance, including first aid, for northbound migrants.

    Although the organization’s sanctuary trailers are situated on the U.S. side of the border, federal agents are legally allowed to enter the property and remove the illegal crossers, law enforcement sources confirm. “If agents observe illegal conduct, apprehension does not require a warrant,” a federal law enforcement official with direct knowledge of the matter told Judicial Watch. In this case, probable cause had been established by the unlawful conduct observed by Border Patrol agents via the high-tech Buckeye camera. Instead of entering the property as legally allowed and removing the illegal aliens, agents were ordered to “negotiate” with the occupants,” Border Patrol officials said. Photos produced by the surveillance camera were also produced to Judicial Watch by outraged Border Patrol officials who say Obama-era, open borders policies are still being implemented by Kelly’s management team. “Instead of proactively patrolling a porous and volatile border, Border Patrol resources are being utilized on the perimeter of the property to thwart any further incursions into or retreats from the sanctuary camp,” according to a law enforcement source involved in the Nogales incident.


    Veteran agents say, that although Trump promised to toughen up security along the porous and increasingly violent Mexican border, for unknown reasons his DHS secretary continues to implement Obama sanctuary policies. There is a great concern among rank-and-file agents that these passive, limited enforcement policies increase the risk to agents and decrease the deterrence of the Trump border strategy. Just a few weeks ago, Kelly stripped Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents of their independent enforcement authority by implementing a new policy that requires a supervisor’s permission to issue a detainer for illegal aliens suspected of crimes. Judicial Watch obtained the document outlining the new policy, which federal agents say is a constraint that creates a bottleneck and hampers their ability to take efficient on-site action against criminals in the country illegally.

    Article: http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/20...rants-arizona/
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    Update: Subsequent to Judicial Watch reporting this incident Border Patrol management felt compelled to serve a warrant on the “Samaritan camp,” which agents had been waiting for three days to obtain.
    That's good. Maybe they can arrest the Camp people, too?!

    Still strange that such an order would come down if it's being reported accurately. How would top management in DC even know about it? They don't get involved at this level on a per incident basis. Who called and told them? If no one told them, how would they even know until after they were arrested and saw it on some report, if even then?
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    Veteran agents say, that although Trump promised to toughen up security along the porous and increasingly violent Mexican border, for unknown reasons his DHS secretary continues to implement Obama sanctuary policies. There is a great concern among rank-and-file agents that these passive, limited enforcement policies increase the risk to agents and decrease the deterrence of the Trump border strategy. Just a few weeks ago, Kelly stripped Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents of their independent enforcement authority by implementing a new policy that requires a supervisor’s permission to issue a detainer for illegal aliens suspected of crimes. Judicial Watch obtained the document outlining the new policy, which federal agents say is a constraint that creates a bottleneck and hampers their ability to take efficient on-site action against criminals in the country illegally.
    I can think of no reason these veteran BP agents would lie. This isn't the only incident we've read about lately concerning our dear weak kneed Secretary Kelly. It is becoming more and more obvious that our President placed his faith and trust in the wrong man for such an important job.
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    What are you talking about? No one is suggesting they're "lying". I was suggesting they need to report the names of the individuals giving them orders they don't like. There are cartel rats in BP and ICE. We know that. So why not expose them when you report to Judicial Watch and give out their names? How can anyone get to the bottom of the scum in these agencies that are on the take with the cartels without names? That's what I was suggesting they do, maybe it's not safe to do that, maybe giving out the name of who gave the orders to "negotiate" would expose the BP agents talking to Judicial Watch.

    As to the secondary story about ICE, I tried to download the "document" of the DHS memo regarding the detainers but wasn't able to. So I don't know the details or who signed it. But one reason for the requirement of a supervisor approval that comes to mind around the March 24th date of it is the drilling Kelly got in Congressional meetings about DACAs and the Criminals. This impacted appropriations at a time when they were trying to expand funding for DHS, Border Security and Interior Enforcement. The press was filled with stories of "good" people being detained over what DemoQuacks in Congress considered minor violations, because Trump has vastly expanded what is considered "criminal", so this policy of supervisor approval for detainers may have been generated by those attacks on Kelly at the committee hearings. As you know, Congress refused to fund the additional ICE agents and wall funding in the CR which was all happening at that time.

    There's a lot of stuff going on at many different levels for many different reasons which may not get passed down through the ranks as to the why fors about one thing or another that can look one way when you don't know why something was done, and look another way when you do.

    For the next few months, everyone needs to stay focused yes, and keep an eye out of course, but also keep in mind that this Administration is fighting a beast at all levels, in every room, in every office, in every branch, in every state, in every city. We didn't end up with 30 million illegal aliens roaming around our country just because of who was President at the time. There are 30 million or more illegal aliens in our country because of who was President, who was in Congress, who was on the Courts, who was Governors, who was Mayors, who was Police Chiefs, who was on City Councils and who among them were and are on the take with the drug cartels behind this disaster.
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    Judy wrote (excerpt):

    What are you talking about? No one is suggesting they're "lying". I was suggesting they need to report the names of the individuals giving them orders they don't like.
    My post was strictly my opinion and had absolutely nothing to do with anything you said. As hard as this may be for you to believe, not every comment I make is related to something you said.

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    That is such a relief. Thank you.
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