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    Builders Use Scare Tactics to Keep ILLEGALS

    Builders Use Scare Tactics to Keep ILLEGALS

    [b][color=darkred][i]Faced with their ILLEGAL alien slave labor force leaving town, builders are now screaming about a “labor shortage
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    1. 1/24/2008 6:18:58 AM, jam, tulsa
    Once the ILLEGALS leave the area, these companies will have to compete on "an even playing field". Wages may even go up. If these companies can't compete with a LEGAL work force, they shouldn't be in business.

    2. 1/24/2008 6:20:59 AM, j, owasso
    Ohh my goodness- Heaven forbid some of these construction companies lose a little of their bottom line due to cheap labor from paying illegals. Commercial/Home construction is already WAY overpriced for the quality one might receive.. However, I can guarantee their (construction companies) greedy little minds will use this exodus as a reason to jack up the cost to regain loss in profits. Thus you, me and everyone else paying high prices for shoddy work.

    3. 1/24/2008 6:45:17 AM, Jay,
    Construction work has been successful in the past with LEGAL workers...why not now? And you are correct, homes today are built so fast the work is no longer of any quality to be proud to call home.

    4. 1/24/2008 7:49:34 AM, ryan, tulsa
    You idiots don't understand economics at all. this will drive up construction costs because the supply of labor decreased while the demand did not. I'm not a fan of illegals, but I don't like the economic consequences of it. On the bright side, my house will be worth more because comparable new homes will cost more this year.

    5. 1/24/2008 7:52:33 AM, David, Tulsa
    Steel prices are up. Lumber prices are up. Oil prices are up. I can go on and on. Construction companies no long have much of a bottom line anymore. And now they are forced to face the fact that labor prices will be going up. That 70 million dollar stadium for the drillers will most likely double.

    6. 1/24/2008 8:05:14 AM, boo hoo, freedom
    It looks like the shoddy workmanship and poor quality on construction in the past 20 years is about to end.

    Good old American workmanship is about to come back. Master carpenters can once again have a career instead of letting pedro have his job for 8 bucks an hour..

    Flintco should be investigated for breaking the law and illegally undercutting ethical and legal businesses for for.

    Harry Turn Coates (who is on the state labor committee and in Flintco's pocket) should be censored and run out of the capital on a rail for the damage this corrupt politition has done to the citizens of this state and their children's futures...

    7. 1/24/2008 8:19:29 AM, NS, Tulsa
    With the housing market taking a downturn this seems like the ideal time.

    8. 1/24/2008 9:14:52 AM, Doc Smarba, Broken Arrow, OK USA
    In 2003, I purchased a newly-constructed home. Even though it was a 6 bedroom home, the builder was able to throw it up in about 3 months. I checked on the progress regularly. The framing was shoddy. The sheetrock was uneven. The bricklaying messy. I would attempt to point this out during my visits, but nobody on the site spoke english. They just nodded and smiled.
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    After weeks of rework, I agreed to take the house. Since then, we've had numerous leaks. We've had two exterior walls taken down and replaced. The sheetrock bows and is uneven in places. The walls creak when the wind blows. It's the most pathetic workmanship I've ever seen in a house.
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    Today, across the street sits a new house under construction. It's been 3 months since the foundation was laid, and just now the bricks are being laid. At times it has set empty, with no workers for weeks at a time. But I'll tell you what....the sheet rock is perfect. The bricklaying is clean and precise. The walls are straight. The buyer of that home will be pleased with his purchase, and that house will probably be standing 100 years after mine has blown down in a gust of Oklahoma wind.

    9. 1/24/2008 9:42:01 AM, zeezil, North Carolina
    If you can't do business legally, then you have no business being in business.
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    And yet I sit droping prices ,under biding with my hands folded in prayer each night asking for the work to come back. It Breaks my hart to think this ever got so far out of hand.
    I pray each and every day we could put together a company here in Cincinnatti of Just men and women that have lost jobs to criminal aliens. the list has grown so large it has made my wife cry just about every time she adds a name and number.

    When will it stop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zeezil
    Reader Comments to above article
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    9 readers have commented on this story so far. Tell us what you think below!

    1. 1/24/2008 6:18:58 AM, jam, tulsa
    Once the ILLEGALS leave the area, these companies will have to compete on "an even playing field". Wages may even go up. If these companies can't compete with a LEGAL work force, they shouldn't be in business.

    2. 1/24/2008 6:20:59 AM, j, owasso
    Ohh my goodness- Heaven forbid some of these construction companies lose a little of their bottom line due to cheap labor from paying illegals. Commercial/Home construction is already WAY overpriced for the quality one might receive.. However, I can guarantee their (construction companies) greedy little minds will use this exodus as a reason to jack up the cost to regain loss in profits. Thus you, me and everyone else paying high prices for shoddy work.

    3. 1/24/2008 6:45:17 AM, Jay,
    Construction work has been successful in the past with LEGAL workers...why not now? And you are correct, homes today are built so fast the work is no longer of any quality to be proud to call home.

    4. 1/24/2008 7:49:34 AM, ryan, tulsa
    You idiots don't understand economics at all. this will drive up construction costs because the supply of labor decreased while the demand did not. I'm not a fan of illegals, but I don't like the economic consequences of it. On the bright side, my house will be worth more because comparable new homes will cost more this year.

    5. 1/24/2008 7:52:33 AM, David, Tulsa
    Steel prices are up. Lumber prices are up. Oil prices are up. I can go on and on. Construction companies no long have much of a bottom line anymore. And now they are forced to face the fact that labor prices will be going up. That 70 million dollar stadium for the drillers will most likely double.

    6. 1/24/2008 8:05:14 AM, boo hoo, freedom
    It looks like the shoddy workmanship and poor quality on construction in the past 20 years is about to end.

    Good old American workmanship is about to come back. Master carpenters can once again have a career instead of letting pedro have his job for 8 bucks an hour..

    Flintco should be investigated for breaking the law and illegally undercutting ethical and legal businesses for for.

    Harry Turn Coates (who is on the state labor committee and in Flintco's pocket) should be censored and run out of the capital on a rail with tar and feather for the damage this corrupt politition has done to the citizens of this state and their children's futures...

    7. 1/24/2008 8:19:29 AM, NS, Tulsa
    With the housing market taking a downturn this seems like the ideal time.

    8. 1/24/2008 9:14:52 AM, Doc Smarba, Broken Arrow, OK USA
    In 2003, I purchased a newly-constructed home. Even though it was a 6 bedroom home, the builder was able to throw it up in about 3 months. I checked on the progress regularly. The framing was shoddy. The sheetrock was uneven. The bricklaying messy. I would attempt to point this out during my visits, but nobody on the site spoke english. They just nodded and smiled.
    -
    After weeks of rework, I agreed to take the house. Since then, we've had numerous leaks. We've had two exterior walls taken down and replaced. The sheetrock bows and is uneven in places. The walls creak when the wind blows. It's the most pathetic workmanship I've ever seen in a house.
    -
    Today, across the street sits a new house under construction. It's been 3 months since the foundation was laid, and just now the bricks are being laid. At times it has set empty, with no workers for weeks at a time. But I'll tell you what....the sheet rock is perfect. The bricklaying is clean and precise. The walls are straight. The buyer of that home will be pleased with his purchase, and that house will probably be standing 100 years after mine has blown down in a gust of Oklahoma wind.

    9. 1/24/2008 9:42:01 AM, zeezil, North Carolina
    If you can't do business legally, then you have no business being in business.
    http://www.tulsaworld.com/business/arti ... ommentform

    Wow, sounds like Tulsa is just like the OKC area. The quality of workmanship has degraded so much in the last 10 years. Like a builder told me once when we were talking about the crappy work he got sometimes..."Oh Well, It sells"
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    Miller said he’s lost good men due to the law and hasn’t been able to replace them.
    Uh, they never had a right to any job here, and you never had a right to hire them either. What Mr. Miller is receiving is a large dose of delayed reality.
    'Deal with it' dude.

    He should thank his lucky stars he hasn't been directly implicated in the mess and been charged with a crime.
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    This is EXACTLY why we prefer to buy houses built in the 70's. Back when contractors had a little pride in what they built. Most everything from 1985 and up is crap.

    Our house was built in '78 and is solid as a rock! Our house before this was built in 1954 and was the most sturdiest house I ever lived in. We've had very few maintence issues with either house...
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    My house was built in 1947. Its completely block and brick. It took two years to complete, but it will stand forever. Now a Mc mansion was built down the road also brick it took about 8 months....... The new owner said all his bricks are either falling out of cracking as the house settles. He asked how often I've had replace mine.......The answer was never. He didn't believe me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cliffdid
    My house was built in 1947. Its completely block and brick. It took two years to complete, but it will stand forever. Now a Mc mansion was built down the road also brick it took about 8 months....... The new owner said all his bricks are either falling out of cracking as the house settles. He asked how often I've had replace mine.......The answer was never. He didn't believe me.

    LOL Bricks dont get replaced LOL
    o wow that poor man

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