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    CA Facing Troubled Future:Population Surge Stretch Resources

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    6/2/2005

    California facing troubled future
    Study: population surge to stretch resources
    By Lisa Mascaro, Staff Writer

    -- California faces critical challenges in the next two decades as its population surges and stretches vital resources to the limit while creating an ever-widening gap between rich and poor, according to a Public Policy Institute of California study released Wednesday.
    Virtually half of all residents believe smog, traffic and skyrocketing home prices will make the Golden State a worse place to live by 2025, according to the study and poll released the nonpartisan, nonprofit group.

    "We hope that this report acts as a wake-up call," said Mark Baldassare, director of research at the nonpartisan institute and a co-author of the report.

    "The state is not at a crisis, but it's certainly at a critical point in what we've accomplish so far and what we need to do for a better future."

    The authors call for debate on major issues -- revisiting Proposition 13, throwing out term limits, building toll roads -- to better deal with some of the projections in the report, which paints a sweeping portrait of a state being reshaped by changes in demographics and economics, and challenged by cumbersome government processes.

    Latinos are poised to become the largest ethnic group in the state by 2011 as whites drop to one-third of the population.

    The number of seniors will double as the population is expected to swell from 36.5 million to as much as 48 million.

    The economy will demand an increasingly college-educated work force but the population is growing with immigrants and their children -- who typically have not achieved higher levels of education.

    Already booming inland areas, like Riverside, are expected to see their populations skyrocket by 50 percent, although the infrastructure is inadequate to support the boom.

    Congestion will increase travel times by 48 percent.

    Manufacturing jobs will continue to be replaced by service jobs, leaving a growing gap between demand for educated workers and supply.

    Already leading the nation in income inequality, the state will see the gap widen unless major changes are made.

    "Will we have a generation of chronic underemployed, who will need the state's social and income-transfer programs?" the report asked. "Where will the tax revenues come from to ... keep roads repaired, water clean and flowing and schools running?"

    Jack Kyser, chief economist at the Los Angeles County Economic Development Corp., said the issues the report raises already are being felt across Southern California.

    Kyser said his organization recently formed the Southern California Leadership Council -- a multi-county group tapping the expertise of three former governors and others to craft solutions.

    "We really can't look at government to come up with a lot of solutions. It's time for the private sector to get engaged."

    A spokesman for Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger said the governor has been pursuing efforts to address some of the problems outlined in the institute report.

    "Gov. Schwarzenegger is taking the necessary steps to make California once again, in his words, the golden dream by the sea,' " said spokesman Vince Sollitto.

    "He is putting state resources into infrastructure, as called for in today's report. And he is providing the most state funding for education ever to help prepare our children for the economy of the future."

    But Schwarzenegger opposes attempts to change Proposition 13, as the report suggests, and generally supports the current term-limits law although he has expressed a willingness to debate it in the context of negotiating his current redistricting reform effort.

    Jaime A. Regalado, executive director of the Edmund G. "Pat" Brown Institute of Public Affairs at Cal State Los Angeles, said the time is ripe to consider tackling government financing mainstays -- including Proposition 13, the landmark property tax initiative -- as voters become increasingly frustrated by such things as deteriorating roads and schools.

    "Every one of those funding forms tie the hands of those who make the decisions... They have to have a little more leeway."

    Joel Kotkin, an Irvine Fellow at the New America Foundation, said the report fails to tackle regulatory issues and steep housing prices that drive business out of California -- or talk about the kinds of blue-collar jobs that many businesses need.

    "The absolute essential is going to be how we grow the economy and how does California compete? Having educated people per se does not get it done if they don't have the jobs and can't afford to live there."

    2025, a projected 10 million more people will need homes and transportation.

    Yet transportation spending has lagged and California now spends less per capita than the rest of the country on roads --partly because fuel efficiency has led to lower gas tax revenues.

    The report suggests motorists who use the transportation system pay for it through toll roads or other fees.

    It also calls for public-private partnerships to build infrastructure projects that the state can no longer afford. Recent legislation backed by Schwarzenegger to allow private companies to build toll roads was killed earlier in May in Sacramento.

    Baldassare said the state should step in with "carrots and sticks" to get local jurisdictions to take a more regional approach to planning and land-use decisions.

    "We think that regional planning is a huge part of the solution for how to have a better California," he said.

    But the state's voters have little faith government can do the job.

    The institute's poll found four in 10 respondents said they have little or no confidence in state government's ability to plan for the future and 73 percent said voters, not elected officials, should make regional planning and growth decisions.

    "I think the fact that the (public) doesn't believe the government is capable of planning for the future is a huge issue to overcome," Baldassare said. "The thing that gives us some hope is all these things have been out there, being discussed. It's just been a lack of focus and leadership on putting it all together, and commitment."

    -- Staff Writer Harrison Sheppard in the Sacramento bureau contributed to this report. Lisa Mascaro can be reached at (81 713-3761, or by e-mail at lisa.mascaro@dailynews.com .
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    Latinos are poised to become the largest ethnic group in the state by 2011 as whites drop to one-third of the population.

    Only God will be able to help you then, California.
    When we gonna wake up?

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    The authors call for debate on major issues -- revisiting Proposition 13, throwing out term limits, building toll roads -- to better deal with some of the projections in the report, which paints a sweeping portrait of a state being reshaped by changes in demographics and economics, and challenged by cumbersome government processes.
    Getting rid of proposition 13 is a great way to empty the state. The Democrats have tried for years to get rid of it so they can tax people out of their homes. Hey if we deported all the illegals it would solve most of the issues the state is facing immediately.
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    2025, a projected 10 million more people will need homes and transportation
    Sooooooo, let me get this straight........... you take American Tax money to spend on TRANSPORTATION & "affordable housing" so that ILLEGALS & ANCHOR BABIES can use the roads, transit & affordable housing?

    Is that how it's to be accomplished?
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    Re: CA Facing Troubled Future:Population Surge Stretch Resou

    -- California faces critical challenges in the next two decades as its population surges and stretches vital resources to the limit while creating an ever-widening gap between rich and poor, according to a Public Policy Institute of California study released Wednesday.
    "An ever-widening gap between rich and poor". Hmmm.....gee....I wonder what caused that? I thought surging populations caused by uncontrolled massive illegal immigration was "healthy" for our economy. NO state has had more of this illegal phenomenon that Californey....so....oops.....Did Alan Greespan get it wrong? Has he gotten it wrong for the past 20 years that he's been Chairman of the Federal Reserve constantly "chirping" away that in his opinion "Illegal immigration is healthy for our economy". If California was the "experiment site", then...well.....GUESS NOT DUMMY!

    You know Alan Greespan stated unabashedly in a television interview a few years ago that he does his best thinking taking a "bubble bath". Swear to God....my Mom heard it.

    Latinos are poised to become the largest ethnic group in the state by 2011 as whites drop to one-third of the population.
    Gee....hope for Californians is just 6 years away, when whites will be the minority group in California and those hard-working Latinos can support them!! What do they call it...oh yeah....Turn About Is Fair Play, eh?

    The number of seniors will double as the population is expected to swell from 36.5 million to as much as 48 million.
    Well, yes...in other words...DUH....immigrants age too!!

    The economy will demand an increasingly college-educated work force but the population is growing with immigrants and their children -- who typically have not achieved higher levels of education.
    Why would a declining economy demand an increasingly college-educated work force?

    Manufacturing jobs will continue to be replaced by service jobs, leaving a growing gap between demand for educated workers and supply.

    Already leading the nation in income inequality, the state will see the gap widen unless major changes are made.
    Do they no longer understand what the "service" sector really is? It's telemarketers at minimum wage working from their homes; it's government paper and check pushers working for $10 an hour; it's mowing yards; sitting the kids; making the beds; cleaning the toilers; cooking the food; serving the food; taking out the trash; plumbers, electricians, and other trades; home repairs; fixing your car; fixing your lawn mower; working in a bank; selling insurance; selling real estate. Now....will someone tell me how many of these jobs require a college degree? Without your manufacturing base which generates the NEED for engineers, MBAs, accountants, english majors, artists, designers, scientists, drafters, IT graduates, marketing experts, international relations, economists, and even political science majors.....how many college-educated folks will you need?

    You'll still need teachers and health experts. Question is: Who will pay for them?

    The economy in California is in a downward spiral. They will need fewer educated folks than ever before in its history because the state will have no jobs for the college-educated except in government and public service to tend to the social needs paid for at public expense.

    "We really can't look at government to come up with a lot of solutions. It's time for the private sector to get engaged."
    The private sector has been very busy in California. What you see in California is the result of the "private sector" if they are referring to the business sector. They funded MALDEF, ACLU, National Council of La Raza, oui?? Isn't the "surging population stretching California's resources" exactly what they wanted? You reap what you sow!! Be Happy!!

    Joel Kotkin, an Irvine Fellow at the New America Foundation, said the report fails to tackle regulatory issues and steep housing prices that drive business out of California -- or talk about the kinds of blue-collar jobs that many businesses need.
    "blue-collar jobs"....why does anyone need to "talk about that"? Isn't that what the massive uncontrolled illegal immigration was supposed to take care of? You know....those jobs that Americans won't do? Apparently, NOT.

    "steep housing prices that drive business out of California". The last time I checked housing prices drive "people" out of an area because they can't afford to stay in the area. The people business wants to hire leave, and then so goes your business. You were on the right track, just missing a rail.

    Baldassare said the state should step in with "carrots and sticks" to get local jurisdictions to take a more regional approach to planning and land-use decisions.
    Oh right....now the future of California depends on food and firewood starter. Well....checking the fiscal situation, that's about all the state of California can "step" in with is a Bag of Carrots and an Armful of Twigs.

    The institute's poll found four in 10 respondents said they have little or no confidence in state government's ability to plan for the future and 73 percent said voters, not elected officials, should make regional planning and growth decisions.
    Slap me Silly....did I see the word "voters"? "Voters" should plan the future? Would that be the legal voters or the illegal voters? What difference does it make who plans the future? The jug over-flowed, there is no way to fix it....now.

    "I think the fact that the (public) doesn't believe the government is capable of planning for the future is a huge issue to overcome," Baldassare said. "The thing that gives us some hope is all these things have been out there, being discussed. It's just been a lack of focus and leadership on putting it all together, and commitment."
    They think "hope" is "discussion"? Oh, sure....fire-side chats will cure this disaster, I'm sure. Have a few town hall meetings and see how much money that raises. Meet in the park....have a party....talk talk talk talk...all you want. There is only one soluton to what is facing California and EVERYBODY knows what that is.....

    CLOSE YOUR BORDERS AND ENFORCE JANUARY 1, 2005 IMMIGRATION LAW.

    Butterbean....this is a GREAT ARTICLE....because it itemizes and demonstrates all the problems of unplanned excess population caused by illegal immigration; 7 US ALIEN AMNESTIES; and an uncontrolled birth rate....all the ingredients to make a Toilet Bowl out of California and any other state that follows these insane practices.

    WAKE UP CALIFORNIA....your only hope is to stop the flow of people into your state that have nothing to contribute but increasing your population and the need for public services.
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    Here's a couple of pictures below that represent the future of California. I think we will have to change the state nickname from the golden state to the garbage state.

    That article paints a real depressing picture and offers no solutions to the problems. The state is not doing anything to accommodate the people we have now, and the illegals keep pouring in uncontrolled. We have a decaying and inadequate infrastructure to handle the growth, a limited tax base to get revenue, businesses are leaving, legal citizens are fleeing the state, a government with zero vision to solve problems, and that's only a fraction of the problems we have. Who in their right mind would want to move here.





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    BRIAN, exactly where were these pics taken? What town or area?

    It looks like some of the countries I've visited, NOT the US of A!!
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    The first picture is from Mexico. However I have seen a few areas that are starting to look almost as bad in our state. The second picture is from an illegal alien encampment located in Southern California around the San Diego county area.

    We get a lot of illegals that camp out in home made shacks and the government will not do anything about it. In fact a local radio station talks about the illegal camps quite frequently with callers saying they have these types of camps near their expensive houses. Typically they build the camps down in canyons and ravines. The homeowners worry that the illegals will start brush fires since they usually live in areas with a lot of dry brush around them.
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    Hey, if you really want to see it for real!!

    Just go to the Animal Planet station on your cable.

    They show all the major police departments animal control units investigating animal abuse. Miami, Houston, New York, etc. I'm sure they do LA, too.

    Almost all the complaints are illegals or what appear to be illegals in Houston and Miami ( no money, Third World Turd properties, animals starving, sick, diseased). They don't speak English and so they have to spring for "interpretors".

    You can "see" how they live.

    It's Third World in all our Major Cities.
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    The second picture is from an illegal alien encampment located in Southern California around the San Diego county area.

    We get a lot of illegals that camp out in home made shacks and the government will not do anything about it. In fact a local radio station talks about the illegal camps quite frequently with callers saying they have these types of camps near their expensive houses. Typically they build the camps down in canyons and ravines. The homeowners worry that the illegals will start brush fires since they usually live in areas with a lot of dry brush around them.
    Are you serious? This is freakin unbelievable!

    Fires? they better be worried about armed house invasions!

    Can you video tape any of this? It would probably be valuable in the future! Especially when pertaining to state/fed laws.
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