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    CA. Rep. Hunter proposes more border fencing

    Rep. Hunter proposes more border fencing

    By Elizabeth Aguilera 12:59 p.m. March 15, 2011

    In this Nov. 17, 2008 file photo, a U.S. Border Patrol vehicle stands guard along the border fence with its concertino wire topping it, in San Diego. (AP Photo/Lenny Ignelzi, File) — AP

    A bill introduced in Congress today could lead to an additional 350 miles of fencing along the southwest border and would require the Department of Homeland Security to report to Congress when apprehension activity climbs 40 percent year over year, if it is approved.

    Rep. Duncan Hunter
    , R-Alpine, authored the bill, titled “Unlawful Border Entry Prevention Act,” in response to a Government Accountability Report that found 44 percent of the southwest border is under “operational control” and 15 percent is totally secure. The legislation is co-sponsored by Republicans Brian Bilbray, Solana Beach, Ed Royce, Fullerton, and Ted Poe, Texas, and North Carolina Democrats Heath Shuler and Mike McIntyre.


    “Despite considerable gains in recent years, the Southwest border is nowhere near secure,” Hunter said. “This not only presents a significant risk to U.S. national security, but also undermines the safety of communities on both sides of the border.”


    The bill would need approval in the House of Representatives as well as the Senate and the signature of President Barack Obama to become law.


    Hunter's bill also requires Homeland Security to report to Congress if apprehensions increase 40 percent from one year to next in any given sector along the southwest border. The report must include a plan for gaining “operational control.”


    Apprehensions are at an all time low across the southwest border, an indicator, officials say, of increased security and a decrease in attempts by people to cross illegally. Last year Border Patrol reported 463,000 apprehensions, a decrease of 36 percent over the previous two years.


    The GAO report “Preliminary Observations on Border Control Measures for the Southwest Border,” released last month, found the Border Patrol has various levels of control along the border and responds best to unlawful activity after illegal entry into the U.S. is made and not on the immediate border.


    The government’s analysis found that of the 873 miles Border Patrol reports are under operational control about 129 miles are classified as controlled. More than half of the southwest border is “managed,” which means response to activity occurs after illegal entry. The southwest border encompasses nearly 2,000 miles.


    In San Diego nearly 90 percent of border miles are under “operational control,” according to the report.

    Yuma reported 100 percent operational control and Tucson and El Paso reported around 70 percent operational control. Marfa, Del Rio, Laredo and the Rio Grande Valley reported less than 40 percent of operation control, according to GAO.


    As of Dec. 2010, 649 miles of pedestrian and vehicle type fencing has been erected. DHS was required to identify the fencing locations prior to Dec. 2008.


    While the GAO report is accurate, according to Border Patrol officials, it does not take into account collaborations with other agencies on both sides of the border. It also uses limited definitions of terms created for personnel but not necessarily for outside review or understanding, said Deputy Chief Ronald D. Vitiello at the time the report was released.


    Vitiello said the terms in the report such as “operation control” are internal measures and may be misunderstood by those outside the agency.

    Operational control as it is defined by Border Patrol involves: detection of persons crossing the border, identification of the person, classification of the level of threat, respond and resolve.


    The GAO also outlined a plan by the Border Patrol to revamp how it assesses outcomes in an effort to make the terms more universal. There will be a gap in reported outcomes next year while the system is being re-purposed, according to the report.


    http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2011/...order-fencing/
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    New Stretch of Border Fence Almost Complete 18 ft.X34 miles

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    C.B.P. News Release

    CBP Announces Project to Replace Outdated Fencing in Nogales

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    March 1, 2011

    Nogales, Ariz. - U.S. Customs and Border Protection today announced that construction to replace an estimated 2.8 miles of outdated primary pedestrian fence along the U.S-Mexico border adjacent to the city of Nogales, Ariz., will begin in mid-March, and is part of CBP's ongoing efforts to strengthen the security of the Southwest border in Arizona's Tucson sector.

    The project will replace "landing mat" fencing originally constructed in 1994 with a new 18-foot bollard fence design on either side of the DeConcini Land port of entry. The new fence will increase deterrence by raising the overall height and providing a deeper, more robust below grade foundation-making it significantly more difficult to breach. The project is scheduled to be completed in September 2011.


    "Modernizing and upgrading fencing in Nogales is critical to our ongoing efforts to strengthen border security in the Tucson Sector and keep Arizona communities safe and secure," said Border Patrol Facilities and Tactical Infrastructure Program Management Office Director Loren Flossman.


    CBP has completed a total of approximately 650 miles of pedestrian and vehicle fence along the Southwest border out of the 652 miles mandated by Congress.


    Last month month, CBP announced the Arizona Joint Field Command-an organizational realignment that brings together Border Patrol, Air and Marine, and Field Operations under a unified command structure to integrate CBP's border security, commercial enforcement, and trade facilitation missions to more effectively meet the unique challenges faced in the Arizona area of operations.


    Since launching the Southwest Border Initiative in March 2009, the Obama administration has engaged in an unprecedented effort to bring focus and intensity to Southwest border security, coupled with a reinvigorated, smart and effective approach to enforcing immigration laws in the interior of our country.


    U.S. Customs and Border Protection is the unified border agency within the Department of Homeland Security charged with the management, control and protection of our nation's borders at and between the official ports of entry. CBP is charged with keeping terrorists and terrorist weapons out of the country while enforcing hundreds of U.S. laws.

    http://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/local-me...tdated-fencing

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    Never gonna happen
    Some dem committee will kill it

    The gov is already mandated to build fences

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justthefacts
    Never gonna happen
    Some dem committee will kill it

    The gov is already mandated to build fences
    They already built 650 miles of the 652 miles that were mandated by congress.
    CBP has completed a total of approximately 650 miles of pedestrian and vehicle fence along the Southwest border out of the 652 miles mandated by Congress.
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    but as we have seen in videos. when it comes to the vehicle barrier. thats not stopping anyone from getting ramps and driving right over. so that stuff can not be considered secure in any way, shape, or form

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    Make it 20' high razor wire top with 3 lanes of razor wire on the ground with sensors. Make a 500 yard dead mans zone from the fence inward where its an open clear area to see and stop anyone who makes it over the wall. Reenforce the wall. If they throw rocks then the take their lives in their hands, if they jump the wall then they are open to be stopped with whatever means is needed and that does not mean using beanbags.

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    JohnDoe wrote:

    They already built 650 miles of the 652 miles that were mandated by congress.
    There's a fence and then there's a FENCE. I don't think a lot of the fencing that has been built to date is what most of us would consider secure fencing.

    I'm afraid a majority of the fencing looks like this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHjKBjM1ngw

    I know there is some good fencing along the San Diego border, however, that fence is the exception and not the norm.




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    Border Patrol says San Diego razor-wire fence slows attacks on agents

    (See a picture of the fence at this link.)

    http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/mexi ... fence.html

    http://www.alipac.us/ftopicp-808545.html#808545
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    Great border fence picture, video and other pictures at this link: (JD2)

    http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/s ... order-wars
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