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    CAFTA in Peril! Big Business threatens Congress!

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    6/12/2005
    By Thomas B. Edsall The Washington Post
    Topics: Central American Free Trade Agreement, illegal immigration, President, Congress, Senate, Democrat, Republican
    With the Central American Free Trade Agreement (CAFTA) in serious trouble, a prominent business leader recently laid it on the line: Business groups are prepared to cut off campaign contributions to House members who oppose the pact.

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    "If you [lawmakers] are going to vote against it, it's going to cost you," Thomas J. Donohue, president and CEO of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, warned recently during a meeting on Capitol Hill of leaders of a 500-plus business-trade association coalition with more than 500 members.

    President Bush has declared ratification of CAFTA his top trade priority of the year. The pact would create a NAFTA-like free-trade zone between the United States and five Central American countries plus the Caribbean's Dominican Republic.

    But both sides agree that without a major push from the White House and the GOP leadership, CAFTA is likely to become the first major trade deal to be defeated in more than 40 years and a major embarrassment for the administration.

    The administration recently dispatched high-profile officials -- including Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, Secretary of Commerce Carlos M. Gutierrez, Agriculture Secretary Mike Johanns and U.S. Trade Representative Rob Portman -- to enlist support from House and Senate members.

    Rep. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio), who is coordinating the opposition among House Democrats, said the percentage voting against trade agreements has steadily grown from the 60 to 65 percent range in the early 1990s, and predicted 90 percent will oppose CAFTA.

    "If the vote was held today, we would get 190 Democrats and somewhere in the vicinity of 40-plus Republicans," more than enough to defeat the measure, Brown said. Republican opponents of CAFTA are more cautious in their estimates.

    The administration and GOP leaders are pushing for ratification of CAFTA before the July 4 recess. Matthew Niemeyer, assistant U.S. trade representative for congressional affairs, said that "we are in excellent position to successfully mark up this agreement" in the Senate Finance Committee this week. The major threat in the committee is that all the Democrats could line up with two Republicans, Michael D. Crapo (Idaho) and Craig Thomas (Wyo.), to pass a nonbinding but politically damaging amendment eliminating sugar provisions.

    Some of the biggest winners if the pact is approved would include the pharmaceutical industry, which would get protection from producers of generics; the high-tech and telecommunications industries, which would get intellectual property protections and access to the Caribbean Internet, cellular and land-line phone systems; and exporters including the National Pork Producers and Procter & Gamble, which would see tariff barriers lowered or eliminated.

    But they are up against formidable opponents, including organized labor, the sugar industry, most House Democrats and some conflicted southern Republicans, who want to support Bush and the GOP's free trade policies but are under pressure to protect producers in their districts from overseas competition.

    House Democrats overwhelmingly oppose the agreement, largely because of concerns of labor unions that the agreement would not adequately protect the rights of low-paid workers in Central America who would be competing more directly with U.S. workers.

    Many pro-trade, centrist Democrats are also declaring their opposition in order to voice their broader disagreement with Bush administration tax and domestic spending policies that they argue are not doing enough to equip the workforce to deal with a changing global economy. "CAFTA is a 'place holder' " for those concerns, said Rep. Adam Smith (D-Wash.).

    A number of Republicans who represent once-Democratic southern congressional districts heavily dependent on agricultural subsidies and tariff and quota protections for textiles also object to the treaty.

    The leaders of the Republican opposition to CAFTA are Reps. Walter B. Jones Jr. (N.C.) and Virgil H. Goode Jr. (Va.), both former Democrats. A substantial number of Republicans have declared they will defect from the White House agenda. Others are under intense pressure to cast "no" votes from the sugar industry and segments of the beef and textile industries concerned about increased competition from Central America.

    House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi (Calif.) predicted last Wednesday that wavering Republican lawmakers who are forced by the administration and GOP leaders to vote for CAFTA will be highly vulnerable in the 2006 elections.

    Under CAFTA, the United States would make permanent the temporary suspension of tariffs set by the Caribbean Basin Initiative. In return, the Dominican Republic, Honduras, Costa Rica, El Salvador, Guatemala and Nicaragua would reduce or eliminate tariffs on most imports, open state monopolies to foreign competition, and remove legal barriers to foreign investment.

    The pact gets strong backing from business groups that see new export and import opportunities. Organized labor, however, sees a threat from low-wage production competing with American goods, and many Democrats have voiced concerns that not enough is done to protect Caribbean workers from exploitation, and to educate and train displaced U.S. workers.

    The possibility of defeat has pro-CAFTA leaders of U.S. business -- who see the treaty as a test vote for future, much broader, free trade negotiations -- deeply worried. "If we walk away from this deal, we walk away from years of investment and we walk away from extraordinary trade opportunities," Donahue said.

    Teams of corporate executives and lobbyists are meeting regularly with undecided House members here and in their home districts. Officials of the Distilled Sprits Council, Procter & Gamble and the Farm Bureau have, for example, met with Rep. John S. Tanner (D-Tenn.) to press the case for CAFTA. In addition to boosted agricultural exports, the treaty would open markets for Procter & Gamble's shampoo factory in Tanner's district and would guarantee that bourbon and Tennessee whiskeys sold in the CAFTA countries would have to be produced in the United States, according to lobbyists for these interests.

    In a recent speech on behalf of the treaty, House Majority Whip Roy Blunt (R-Mo.) said, "Frankly, this is the model for a global economy."

    Jones, who has seen his state's textile factories and workforce devastated by foreign competition, rejected that analysis. "Enough is enough; we are losing the manufacturing base of this country," he said.

    Brown and Jones predicted the administration will begin offering special favors to wavering lawmakers. "They are going to open the bank for these guys," said Brown, citing past offers of bridges and other public works projects to win votes on controversial trade bills.

    Public Citizen, in a bid to weaken the administration's bargaining position, this week is to issue a report showing that 83 promises have been made to win trade votes over the past 15 years and that only 13 of them were kept: three of 53 commitments to change policies and 10 of 30 pork barrel commitments.

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    Re: CAFTA in Peril! Big Business threatens Congress!

    With the Central American Free Trade Agreement (CAFTA) in serious trouble, a prominent business leader recently laid it on the line: Business groups are prepared to cut off campaign contributions to House members who oppose the pact.
    "Business groups are prepared to cut-off campaign contributions to House members who oppose the pact".

    Well.....HOORAH!!!! That would be the best thing in the world...get "Business Groups" out of our politics and we'll get "politics" out of your Business Groups so you all can focus on new innovations, research and development, hiring American workers, improving your business by business performance.

    How about THAT idea, CEO's being paid millions of dollars a year? How about "earning" your company's performance and your bonuses, instead of trying to "buy" it through our United States Congress?

    Now close up your wallets and crawl back to your CEO desks of luxury and do your jobs shareholders pay you to do which DOES NOT INCLUDE business deals through the United States Congress that will END OUR NATION, you over-rated arrogant sacks of over-paid cow manure!! You make me SICK!!

    "If you [lawmakers] are going to vote against it, it's going to cost you," Thomas J. Donohue, president and CEO of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, warned recently during a meeting on Capitol Hill of leaders of a 500-plus business-trade association coalition with more than 500 members.
    Well...lookey here, at Mr. Big Dog! I don't believe this man has ever run a company, ever originated an innovative idea, ever "earned" a real revenue or made 10 cents worth of contribution to our Nation's GNP, our standard of living, our wages and salaries, and therefore is nothing more or less than a Parasite working for a not-for-profit "chamber" organization. What he thinks is completely irrelevant. AND, I hope he's not using his Chamber of Commerce tax-exempt business organization as a Political Action Committee????? Tsk. Tsk. Tsk. Chamber dues are deductible MR. DONOHUE!! Perhaps we need to be investiating your little organization throwing these kind of political contribution "threats" around, as if YOU or the United States Chamber of Commerce had anything to do with THAT, eh???

    You need to sign up for the Dale Carnagie Class and learn how to "Make Friends and Influence People". See you are on the "dole". You have no credibility. You are about money, not principal. You are about your job, not about anyone else's.

    As upset as I am with the United States Congress and while I may as a citizen, an American Citizen, throw my barbs at them as a VOTER worried about the condition of her Nation....I'll slap your face if I ever get near it for threatening My United States Congress with hold backs on political contributions if they don't vote your way. You sir, are not supposed to be involved with political contributions to begin with, Tommy Boy!!

    President Bush has declared ratification of CAFTA his top trade priority of the year. The pact would create a NAFTA-like free-trade zone between the United States and five Central American countries plus the Caribbean's Dominican Republic.
    Maniac X has totally fallen off his rocker "declaring ratification of COMMIE CAFTA" his top trade priority of the year". Yes, Bushey Boy, we KNOW YOUR TRADE PRIORITIES. They are in a row:

    1) Security and Prosperity Partnership with Canada and Mexico now in progress through "regulation" instead of "legislation" in compete contradition to the Will of the American People and American Law.

    2) CAFTA--Open Borders Legislation. A 2400 page document that no Congressman or even you Pres have read. It contains a clause of "free flow of people, labor and goods" into the United States, flooding us with immigrants looking for jobs, housing, medical care, education with absolutely nothing to contribute. It allows foreign investment into the Central American countries which means our US Chamber of Commerce, Mr. Big Dog, et al and its "BUSINESS GROUPS" will be closing plants in the US right and left, faster than we can report them let alone count the job losses to invest and build plants and make the products, now made here, in Central America and then try to ship that crap back to us and force us to buy out.

    3) UN Millienium Agenda for Global Governance - One World Government grand finale summit in September of 2005, less than 3 months away.

    4) Free Trade Agreement of the Americas - the total dissolution of the United States as a soveriegn territory lost in the mud of a Third World Hemisphere Nation run by a council and an army needed only to CONTROL us, the Drones in the Dorms Serving the Global Crones for poverty wages world-wide through ratification of this obscene evil piece of garbage by December 31, 2005...6 months away!!

    5) The complete end of the United States will occur in 6 months if CAFTA passes. There will be no sovereign territory, no nation that anyone can define or locate on a map, no American Citizenry, no American Culture, little need for a government as all important decisions regarding trade, security, borders, armed services, transportation, labor, civil rights, civil society will be directed by the Council, the Global Council, the UN GLOBAL GOVERNANCE COUNCIL. Oh yes!! As unbelievable as this is, it is true and irrefutable. That is where we are. So, does anybody care about Mr. Donohue and his Business Groups contributing to Congressional pacts? Why would it matter? There will be no US Congress needed after January 1, 2006...exccept perhaps to dole out highway money to fix pot-holes. I mean that is all the President ever talks about on his tours of America: "FIX YOUR POT-HOLES".

    This President is Mentally Insane, a Lunatic, a Maniac, Mentally Diseased, NO LONGER FIT TO SERVE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE and as you can see poses an IMMINENT THREAT TO THE UNITED STATES AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE!!

    But both sides agree that without a major push from the White House and the GOP leadership, CAFTA is likely to become the first major trade deal to be defeated in more than 40 years and a major embarrassment for the administration.
    Well....after 40 years....it's about damn time one of these obnoxious disgusting repulsive repugnant pieces of earth trash ended up in the waste can.

    The administration recently dispatched high-profile officials -- including Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, Secretary of Commerce Carlos M. Gutierrez, Agriculture Secretary Mike Johanns and U.S. Trade Representative Rob Portman -- to enlist support from House and Senate members.
    Yes, Yes...we know the Maniac sent his little crew of "high-profile" officials on the COMMIE CAFTA CIRCUIT....to "bark his Tales"....but as upset as I am with the United States Congress...I still have hope that the Majority will see the evil of this agreement; the true intentions of this treaty; the real outcome of its passage; the demising affect on the United States and the American People and will by the end of Tuesday vote NO and begin the Reconstruction of the United States Economy.

    Rep. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio), who is coordinating the opposition among House Democrats, said the percentage voting against trade agreements has steadily grown from the 60 to 65 percent range in the early 1990s, and predicted 90 percent will oppose CAFTA.
    Grand Old Party, GOP, Republican Party, Party of Jefferson, Lincoln and Reagan, Republican National Committee (RNC), Republican National Senatorial Committee....hear this. None of you are paid to end the United States. None of you are paid to take one job or one dollar of investment out this country. None of you are paid to open our borders without our Consent or Against our Will. None of you have any license or authority to do anything that would cause such to occur.

    Hear This:

    "A Nation Without Border Is Not A Nation". Ronald Reagan

    You are hereby notified that you do not have the authority to open our borders, flood us with Central American Immigrants, encourage investment outside the US, close plants in the US, take jobs out of the US, end the sovereign territory of the United States of America, because you are not empowered to do this for any reason at any time whatsoever by the American People. You never have been, and believe me, you never will be!

    This Treason Treaty Business to END OUR NATION is OVER!!

    You can end it on Tuesday by defeating CAFTA...or WE'll have to end it on our Own.

    "If the vote was held today, we would get 190 Democrats and somewhere in the vicinity of 40-plus Republicans," more than enough to defeat the measure, Brown said. Republican opponents of CAFTA are more cautious in their estimates.
    Lets Pray Brown's numbers are correct and growing in his direction at this very moment.

    The administration and GOP leaders are pushing for ratification of CAFTA before the July 4 recess. Matthew Niemeyer, assistant U.S. trade representative for congressional affairs, said that "we are in excellent position to successfully mark up this agreement" in the Senate Finance Committee this week. The major threat in the committee is that all the Democrats could line up with two Republicans, Michael D. Crapo (Idaho) and Craig Thomas (Wyo.), to pass a nonbinding but politically damaging amendment eliminating sugar provisions.
    STOP THIS NONENSE. THIS ISN"T ABOUT SWEETENER FOR CRYIN' OUT LOUD!!

    Some of the biggest winners if the pact is approved would include the pharmaceutical industry, which would get protection from producers of generics; the high-tech and telecommunications industries, which would get intellectual property protections and access to the Caribbean Internet, cellular and land-line phone systems; and exporters including the National Pork Producers and Procter & Gamble, which would see tariff barriers lowered or eliminated.
    STOP THIS NONSENSE. THIS ISN'T ABOUT PHARMACOLOGY, CELL PHONES, PORK OR COLD CREAM!! Give me a break. To think that corporate America would want to end our nation so they could sell another bottle of drugs, another ham shank, another cell phone, or another bottle of hand lotion...is just too unreal to believe.

    WHO ARE THESE NUTS? Have they all been drinking the same tainted whiskey or what? Have they been drugged? Is their something in the air of a "chamber" they all visited? Have they been "DUMB GASSED" or what?

    But they are up against formidable opponents, including organized labor, the sugar industry, most House Democrats and some conflicted southern Republicans, who want to support Bush and the GOP's free trade policies but are under pressure to protect producers in their districts from overseas competition.
    There we are with that "sugar" thing again. If CAFTA passes, another teaspoon of sugar will never touch these lips. I'll get a bee hive and make my own honey.

    House Democrats overwhelmingly oppose the agreement, largely because of concerns of labor unions that the agreement would not adequately protect the rights of low-paid workers in Central America who would be competing more directly with U.S. workers.
    Is that not ironic? OUR US LABOR UNIONS are worried about the rights of low-paid workers in Central America. These people have definitely been "DUMB-GASSED".

    Many pro-trade, centrist Democrats are also declaring their opposition in order to voice their broader disagreement with Bush administration tax and domestic spending policies that they argue are not doing enough to equip the workforce to deal with a changing global economy. "CAFTA is a 'place holder' " for those concerns, said Rep. Adam Smith (D-Wash.).
    Whatever your reason to oppose this Commie CAFTA bill, hang on tight and VOTE NO. But WE are just plain sick and tired of this "dealing with a changing global economy". So, we aren't gonna change. We aren't going to go "global". We've heard enough; We've read enough; and Believe ME, there isn't a damn thing in that for US. No Sir, Ladies and Gents, not one darn thing.

    A number of Republicans who represent once-Democratic southern congressional districts heavily dependent on agricultural subsidies and tariff and quota protections for textiles also object to the treaty.
    Fine. Hang on tight to your reason and VOTE NO ON COMMIE CAFTA!!

    The leaders of the Republican opposition to CAFTA are Reps. Walter B. Jones Jr. (N.C.) and Virgil H. Goode Jr. (Va.), both former Democrats. A substantial number of Republicans have declared they will defect from the White House agenda. Others are under intense pressure to cast "no" votes from the sugar industry and segments of the beef and textile industries concerned about increased competition from Central America.
    DEFECT!! DEFECT!! DEFECT!! DEFECT!! ALL GOP DEFECT AND VOTE NO ON CAFTA!! What is wrong with you people? You can not support a President that has literally LOST HIS MIND, whose trying to END the SOVEREIGN TERRITORY OF THE UNITED STATES and FLOOD US WITH IMMIGRANTS WE CAN NOT POSSIBLY SUSTAIN?

    DEFECT!!!

    The possibility of defeat has pro-CAFTA leaders of U.S. business -- who see the treaty as a test vote for future, much broader, free trade negotiations -- deeply worried. "If we walk away from this deal, we walk away from years of investment and we walk away from extraordinary trade opportunities," Donahue said.
    THAT'S RIGHT. "walk away from years of investment (behind our backs) and extraordinary trade opportunites (yeah...global monopolies run by CRONES)!! NO WAY!! Deeply worried. Yeah...you creep, you need to be deeply worried...about US!! You scheming plotting two-timin' TRAITOR trying to sell US out; tryin' to open borders to END OUR NATION for "extraordinary trade opportunities". GET OUT!! We don't need your kind here, No Sir, not for one minute!! You better get your limo gassed up and find your spot somewhere outside the boundaries of the United States....no one will want you in their neighborhood, no one will want you in their place of business, no one in Congress will give you the time of day....so....hopefully, you will FAIL on Tuesday and become the has-been you should have been all along.

    Teams of corporate executives and lobbyists are meeting regularly with undecided House members here and in their home districts. Officials of the Distilled Sprits Council, Procter & Gamble and the Farm Bureau have, for example, met with Rep. John S. Tanner (D-Tenn.) to press the case for CAFTA. In addition to boosted agricultural exports, the treaty would open markets for Procter & Gamble's shampoo factory in Tanner's district and would guarantee that bourbon and Tennessee whiskeys sold in the CAFTA countries would have to be produced in the United States, according to lobbyists for these interests.
    OHMYGOD...now it's bad whiskey, shampoo, and some aggie products. These people would sell out their mother to sell another pint of booze, suds and GMO. WHO ARE THESE DEFECTS? Are they real? Maybe their Clones? Real people don't behave this way.

    In a recent speech on behalf of the treaty, House Majority Whip Roy Blunt (R-Mo.) said, "Frankly, this is the model for a global economy."
    Frankly, Roy, you hick....I actually know this man and where he's from and what he did before he got to Congress....and this Moron wouldn't know a Global Economy from a Big Ant Hill in his backyard if it jumped up and bit him on his ass. "frankly, this is a model for a global economy"....says Roy, former Recorder of Deeds, Greene County, Missouri. That's just TOO DARN FUNNY, isn't it? Got himself a new suit and a tiny desk in a hole in the Nation's Capitol in DC and SUDDENLY, he thinks he knows what "a model for a global economy" should look like.

    He couldn' read the first page of that 2400 page piece of convoluted sneaky tricky garbage let alone know what it means!!

    God Help Us.

    Jones, who has seen his state's textile factories and workforce devastated by foreign competition, rejected that analysis. "Enough is enough; we are losing the manufacturing base of this country," he said.
    GO JONES!! Tell it Straight!! Tell Your Brothers and Sister in the US Congress...to GET STRAIGHT ANd VOTE NO ON CAFTA!! The American People will never, I repeat never, forgive a yes vote on CAFTA.

    Brown and Jones predicted the administration will begin offering special favors to wavering lawmakers. "They are going to open the bank for these guys," said Brown, citing past offers of bridges and other public works projects to win votes on controversial trade bills.
    KIT BOND...Dear Friend....do not sell out this NATION for the locks and dams. It's not worth it Friend. We'll never, I repeat, never forgive a yes vote on CAFTA. DON'T DO IT. VOTE NO ON CAFTA and put an end to this Nightmare. Bush is a Maniac. Just get him out of the White House. We'll get you your locks and dams money to fix up the Mississippi Barge System later. NOW, we have to Save our Country, Hon.

    Public Citizen, in a bid to weaken the administration's bargaining position, this week is to issue a report showing that 83 promises have been made to win trade votes over the past 15 years and that only 13 of them were kept: three of 53 commitments to change policies and 10 of 30 pork barrel commitments.
    Consider this simple fact. Americans went to the polls last year and elected hundreds of people to represent them in the United States Congress and the White House in complete trust and admiration and belief that we were sending capable, honest , decent, patriotic Americans to handle our affairs. Yes, we disgree on many things, but our SYSTEM relies upon the nationalistic integrity of all sent to Washington DC on our behalf. NOW, we've just found out that our President is a NUT, trying to end our nation through Treasonous Acts; John McCain is in bed with Ted Kennedy, the immigrants, and the Catholic Church trying to end our nation through Treasonous Acts; Dick Cheney spend $37 million of our Homeland Security monies in Wyoming....apparently building a underground concrete bungalow he can go hide in if we turn on him....as we have. Now, these "trade" people and these Cabinet High-Profile People are "employees" of the NUT in the White House.

    IF any of you think that any deal you make with any of these people is a deal you can RELY upon, then you are just plain foolish. WE can't even rely upon them not to do things that are going to END THE UNITED STATES!! So...whatever deal you think you made with them....is a joke!! There will no country left for you to collect your debt from or spend it on!!

    VOTE NO ON THE CENTRAL AMERICAN FREE TRADE AGREEMENT, better known as the COMMIE CAFTA SCAM TO END THE UNITED STATES.
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    Judy, will you be running for congress in '06 or are you waiting for the presidential elections in '08?
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    Maybe it is just me

    I took it to mean that by saying they will cut off campaign contributions if the lawmakers oppose it (not support CAFTA) this is saying the businesses are for it.

    Did I read it wrong?
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    Ohflyingone--you read it right. If Congressman vote no on Cafta, the US Chamber of Commerce is going to jerk their political contributions away from the Congressman killing CAFTA!! Some businesses are for CAFTA, other are not. Globalists are for CAFTA but many small manufacturers are opposed to it.
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    Judy, you out did yourself. Really. I am so impressed, I'm ready to nominate you for President under the Independent Party. Or the American Party. If the American people could all hear what you have to say, I swear.......IT WOULD BE LANDSLIDE.

    Seriously guys, this is no joke. JUDY is who we need in the Whitehouse. I KID YOU NOT. Judy, and there are some other people here, perhaps...ScareCrow. He is also full of information and also great at presenting it clearly. ScareCrow for V.P. or Secretary of State.

    All I know is that I thank God for Americans like all of you. I live in an area overwhelmed with people so new to America, that most of them either don't understand or don't want to know what's going on in America.
    Besides what do they have to compare it to?

    You know what worries me? Maybe the people in Congress don't get it either. Perhaps their intelligence is really lacking and or perhaps they're not paying attention, and their minds are on whether or not to purchase that new sailboat, etc. I pray to God these men and women wake up on Tuesday with the realization that this country needs them to do the right thing like never before. I hope that that when they walk up the steps of the Capitol, REALITY will be staring them right in the face.
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    This is LegalUSCitizen's husband. I really am impressed with the way Judy summed everthing up. She hit the nail on the head on every subject. It's really a shame though, that her typing is only read by readers at this web site, although I hope I am wrong. If our thoughts and concerns are just 'read' rather than being heard by those who can initiate change, I fear nothing will get done. 20 years ago, outsourcing started with the manufacturing jobs and illegal immigration has been going on for alot longer than that. I told my wife 15 years ago that all of this would take place if things continued, and they have. I knew that our politicians at that time were taking measures that were not in our country's best intrest. It would seem that these jackasses that we all write about aren't going to pay us any attention until something bad happens. History will show that people like this do not pay any attention to what it is they are doing wrong until its too late. An analogy to this would be that in every city, a traffic light may not go up until someone has a bad accident at an intersection. Damn shame isn't it??
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    Thanks LegalUSCitizen and her Husband!! I hope people will tune in to our website and learn this important information they desperately need to know. Many people are wondering "what in the world is going on" but it's like in any deception by people you trust, it takes a while to understand and realize you've been betrayed. Every American knows that something is up, something is wrong, and things aren't right, but unless you have the expertise to find the answer and then interpret it and then articulate it...it rolls around in your head like a big fuzzy ball and you remain in a fog.

    Everything will break open I feel if we defeat CAFTA. I believe then all those Americans working for the federal government doing things they know are wrong will put their nose to the "wind" and "jump ship" so to speak and we'll have us hundreds of thousands of "deep throats" croaking it out daily!!

    That is my hope. That would bust it wide open. That would get Congress off the fence. That would get an impeachment of Bush Cheney and Hastert in progress immediately. (Did you notice after I put Frist on the Impeach List, he SUDDENLY came out against illegal immigration...maybe that man wants to move up the line afterall, eh? Wise Choice, Man )

    Come on FEDERAL WORKERS....it's time to chirp, croak, spill, dial, fax, email....everything you know to someone....send it to us....we'll make sure it gets out!!

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    Thanks, Judy for responding. We need to remember Patrick Henry when he said "We have not yet begun to fight". We should not go quietly into the night. WE MUST IMPEACH THE TRAITOR bush It seems to me that this country is putting money in front of everything. It stems from the fact that everyone is concerned about the wrong things, like cars, clothes and status, instead of what they should be paying attention to. While our lawmakers are being bought, our citizens are too busy trying to make ends meet and don't have time to become aware. That's just where the rich want us. Jack that cost of living up so they are so busy they won't know what we are doing. Passify them with stupid TV shows and news reports concerning movie stars rather than oil and gas buyouts and military build ups by foreign countries. We would like to relax and do what it is we enjoy and leave the rest up to our government, but that's no longer reality. The fact that the White House has ANY dealings with corporatations is a CRIME. The federal government is suppose to be neutral when it comes to business. Our constitution even states this. This is the root of the problem, even though it has been going on for a long time. Closed door sessions should be illegal and all congressional meetings should be open forums, except in the case of national security.
    As long as we allow these things to happen, we will hang ourselves with the rope China sells us.
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