Thread: The invasion and a new country

excerpt from the article:

At the current rate of invasion (mostly through Mexico, but also through Canada) the United States will be completely over run with illegal aliens by the year 2025. I’m not talking about legal immigrants who follow US law to become citizens. In less than 20 years, if we do not stop the invasion, ILLEGAL aliens and their offspring will be the dominant population in the United States.

According to US Border Control (see LINK below). “They will have made such inroads into the political and social systems that they will have more influence than our Constitution over how the U.S. is governed. The ugly consequence of an ignored U.S. Constitution is already taking place.�

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The above link goes to an article about the invasion and the potential outcome in terms of a whole new country.

Do you believe it can or will happen?

I'm seriously beginning to wonder.

It's already happened.

It's my understanding that this has been a "plot" to converge the United States into one country with Canada and Mexico by Power Brokers and the US Government. Apparently some powerful people in NC see some benefit to them of this; however, the consequence as planned as I've been told is to decline the US Economy and make us comparable or in "Parity" with third world nations so that the poor here in the US are no less poor than the poor in other countries.

There is also some articles on the Web about the"Latinization of the United States". People with business interests apparently see this as a way to profit.

The American Public would never agree to this, so it's my understanding that the "globalists" are using illegal immigration to force the issue so that the sheer numbers here in the US prevent a reverse.

My feeling is that while Americans may have been slow to catch on, Americans will not stand for this once they realize what is happening.

The reason for the uncontrolled borders is specifically to get as many in as quickly as possible to make this happen by sheer force of numbers.

Americans may have been slow to catch on....but we know now. The American Government can not be allowed to force the American People into a declining third world economy to enrich power brokers, globalists, or governments of other countries anywhere in the world.

Without the United States standing tall and firm as we are designed by laws, personality, characteristics, beliefs, ideals, and spirit...all derived from an "American Experience" spanning 231 years, the World will not be a Safe Place.

We are the only nation that risks our lives and money to save others.

Without the United States as we are now and have always been, there is the possibility of a major shift in power and control of the World.

We need to force a complete seal on the borders; stop all illegal immigration; and return all who entered the US illegally to their country of origin as soon as possible; "whatever it takes".

The reason: It's the American Law representing the already determined Will of the American People.

This is the United States. We are the American People.

WE decide what happens here.

Take our Country Back--write, e-mail, telephone every legislator and newspaper you know or can find an address on.

We Must Hurry!!

plot hell-they've taken over-salsa is more popular than ketchup,everyone knows what cinco de mayo is,cesar chavez b-day is a state holiday in ca,corona (one of mexico's cheapest beers) is super popular here in the US,and everyone is eating burritos but they're called 'wraps'.

Thank you for your replies but I think you missed the point of the article altogether. It says that the Hispanics have decided to take, by force, a huge chunk of the USA to include CA, AZ, NM, TX and part of CO to form an entire new country.

According to the map, I live in the United States. Yet, where I live, there are more Mexican flags than US Flags. We hear a lot about the Mexican holidays and little about American holidays, as though this were already part of Mexico. The city population is 78% Hispanic and that is just the population on the census roles. I'm pretty sure it doesn't include the thousands of illegal immigrants in this city alone. I estimate that our population is closer to 90% Hispanic with them added in.

As for the foods, it is just the trend. People like Mexican and Tex-Mex. I don't see that as any sign of decay or even a threat. However, people openly stating that they plan to take over this country is an act of hostility against the US.

Judy, yes, the globalists seem to be helping them to do this. And perhaps if it weren't for the internet and the obviously racist sites that have been crafted by the wave of latinos and mexicans who openly and blatantly threaten the USA, the whole plot would go unnoticed.

I can't see what the globalists think they stand to gain by turning their tax base into a series of third world countries but I definitely recognize the trend toward globalization.

As for the foods, it is just the trend. People like Mexican and Tex-Mex. I don't see that as any sign of decay or even a threat. However, people openly stating that they plan to take over this country is an act of hostility against the US.

Trends.Just like gardners,nannies and other workers.When you eat 'trendy mexican food' where do you think these people that make and serve you go home to?If there's a demand,there'll be a supply.

GeeWiz, Rickesteves, I ate Mexican food in New York State 20 years before I ever laid eyes on a real live Mexican person. What about all the Italian restaurants and Mom & Pop pizza parlors popular in some places? Does that mean we are going to be invaded by Italians? Middle Eastern food? Indian food? Soul food? Just about every single food avilable to Americans was originally eaten in some other country. Much of the Mexican food available in stores is cooked and canned in American factories.

I grant you that many of the workers in the restaurants here on the border are probably illegals. At least 50% of those restaurants are Mom & Pop Mexican restaurants that are here today and gone tomorrow. I can't say if the owners or the workers are illegals or if they aren't. If they are, I hope that their employers get nailed and the workers get deported. But I still don't consider the food a threat until they start lacing it with poison or something.

I make it a practice never to eat in a place where the waiter/waitress doesn't speak and the menu isn't written in English. I know it doesn't mean a whole lot.

I tend to hold a personal grudge against non-English speaking workers in this country since I have been personally turned down for simple jobs because I said I can't speak Spanish only to turn around and find people in those jobs who can't speak English. And that includes Wal Mart, Lowe's, Albertsons, and other widely known retailers! If an Anglo has to be "bi-lingual," why doesn't a Mexican?

Don't you think that their threat to take over our country and make it part of Mexico is a bit more serious a threat than their food? How much do you want to be that the next big food "trend" will be Middle Eastern food?

Junius..I hadn't had a chance to read the article yet on the Altzan. I will try to do so now. I think those are the ones actually interested in a taking by force correct? Possibly La Raza as well.

Whoever said that but for the "internet" we still wouldn't know is absolutely right!! I knew from our experience here in the county I am in now in NC that something was terribly wrong. I knew from looking at a US Census that something was terribly wrong.

People, there are not 11,000,000 illegal aliens in the United States like the Pew Hispanic Center claims. There are about 50,000,000. Pull up the US Census and study the populations from 1970, 1980, 1990 and 2000. Then look up the CIA Population estimate for US for current year.

It has exploded, not by birth rates exceeding death rates. They are much the same. The older population is living a few years longer but not enough to account for the extra 50,000,000--one-sixth the US Population.

Also, an article was in the NYT I found it on the triangle.com site of news&observer. Someone posted it.

It claimed that 7,000,000 tax returns were filed with the federal government by illegal aliens. The source was the US Social Security Administration. A family files a tax return. If the average illegal family is 4, that's 28,000,000 Illegal Aliens verified by those tax returns with fake social security numbers in cooperation with illegal employers also filing illegal W-2s with fake social security number with the IRS and the federal government doing nothing except filing the return in a special room.

In the meantime, even tho the govt., has this information, they are telling us a) there is about 7-8 mm, then maybe it's 10-12mm and b) Vice President of US - "we don't know who they are, where they are, or what they are doing". Two months ago the VP of the US made this statement to the press. Well, you know where 28,000,000 of them are because you have tax returns from them with their address and probably a cell phone number since the return requires it AND where they are working. What more do you need to find someone?

Also, most illegal aliens do not file returns and instead work for cash payments, so there are at lest 50,000,000 or more...which is why they are visible everywhere even in rural America.

Last week, the Homeland Security filed their proposed legislation requiring Passport Checks on the entire Mexican Border. Great!! Why wasn't this the procedure before? But, who has a problem with that. The President stated and I heard it, at a press conference I think it was Monday or Tuesday, "I've got a little bit of a problem with that. Because we have 1,000,000 people a day going back and forth across the Mexican Border every day JUST IN TEXAS!" Well, announce it to the world that the place to get in is along the Tex-Mex border.

I've written the White House 8 times on illegal immigration over the past 12 to 14 months. Governors have pleaded for the White House to "do something" to stop the flow. Border Patrol and National Park Service have both gone public circumventing superiors to let us know what is going on. National Park Rangers took videos of a National Park on the border of illegals carrying back packs of drugs into the US in a steady non-stop stream by Recreational Vehicles and Tents of Americans sleeping on their long-awaited vacation. Of course these aliens were armed to protect the drugs....right there in our National Park 3 feet away from sleeping citizens on vacation. No action following the reports. Nothng to protect Americans; reduce the drug trafficking; or clean up the parks (they were littering it all up Rangers said). Lou Dobbs on CNN harps the issue almost every day for over a year. No Action.

Last year Tom Ridge, Director of Homeland Security when asked about the borders said, "there's really nothing we can do, we don't know where they are and there's so many here it would be impossible to deport them all."

Say what??? Then we're just wasting our money on Homeland Security. I guess that's what the Minuteman Project is all about. They've proved that Citizens sitting in lawn chairs under umbrellas drinking sweet tea and lemonade with a couple of guns in the truck CAN stop it almost FLAT in two weeks time.

Why all the deception: a) lying about the numbers b) lying about where they are and what they're doing c) lying about the ability to stop the flow d) lying about our ability to deport; e) lying about American Workers--"won't do the work"; f) lying about shortages of American workers; g) lying about illegal immigration being "healthy" for our economy - Alan Greenspan, Chrm, Federal Reserve; etc.

Make your phone calls; send your e-mails; write your letters.

Write your Mayors, City Council, County Commissioners as well.

They are tired, too, of all this unemployment. There phones ring everyday about it. Connect the dots to illegal immigration.

To everyone in California, I am so sorry. I am so sorry this has happened to your beautiful state. We didn't know until recently. Or we would have done something sooner. We will help you now.

This isn't going to "fly" in the United States.

We are the Americans.

We decide what happens Here.

Junius,

Do you believe it can or will happen?

I'm seriously beginning to wonder.

It's what "they" are planning. I pray to God literally that it never happens in my lifetime or anyone else's.

Take a look at this http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-430.html

Here's more from http://www.americanpatrol.com/REFERENCE ... Quote.html

Jose Angel Gutierrez, professor, University of Texas, Arlington; founder of La Raza Unida political party; and beneficiary of American generosity: "We have an aging white America. . . . They are dying. . . . They are ******** in their pants with fear! I love it!" "We have got to eliminate the gringo, and what I mean by that is if the worst comes to the worst, we have got to kill him."

And since 1970, he has professed, "Our devil has pale skin and blue eyes." Excerpt below ....... Courtesy of MayorNo.com

...Although Villaraigosa was and is a public official, he did not condemn the repeated calls for the establishment of an independent country of Aztlan or the references to this country as "AmeriKKKa" and the "United Snakes of America." In fact, Villaraigosa praised one of the participants, Jose Angel Gutierrez, Director of Mexican-American Studies Center at the University of Texas at Arlington, who has professed since 1970 that "Our devil has pale skin and blue eyes," and who once said at a MAYA (Mexican American Youth Organization, the forerunner to MEChA) meeting, "To the gringos in the audience, I have one final message to convey, 'Up yours, baby. You've had it, from now on.' "
Source: http://www.mayorno.com/villar.html


Click here to listen to this raving fifth-columnist ... click for a short audio clip of Gutierrez's radical view and obvious hate of "gringos"

Allan Wall VDare.com -- June 3, 2004
Who Is Jose Angel Gutierrez-And What Does He Want?
See http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-430.html for full text of VDare.com article.


Jose Angel Gutierrez, Prof. Univ. Texas at Arlington, founder La Raza Unida Party at UC Riverside 1/1995 ... click for full text

This is a truly classic maniacal racist rant: "The border remains a military zone. We remain a hunted people. Now you think you have a destiny to fulfill in the land that historically has been ours for forty thousand years. And we're a new Mestizo nation. And they want us to discuss civil rights. Civil rights. What law made by white men to oppress all of us of color, female and male. This is our homeland. We cannot - we will not- and we must not be made illegal in our own homeland. We are not immigrants that came from another country to another country. We are migrants, free to travel the length and breadth of the Americas because we belong here. We are millions. We just have to survive. We have an aging white America. They are not making babies. They are dying. It's a matter of time. The explosion is in our population."

Prepare to be majority, Gutierrez tells LULAC ... click on title for full text

Feb. 20, 1999 -- ...Based on U.S. Census estimates, Hispanics will become the majority population in Texas by 2008, said Jose Angel Gutierrez, a founder of La Raza Unida Party and now a political science professor at University of Texas at Arlington.

"We have this bright future because we have the critical mass," Gutierrez said. "We have the means now to take government and to lead. We have to get busy to work on our skills, our abilities, our competency to build that social capital, so we can be excellent leaders....."

"I've got a little bit of a problem with that. Because we have 1,000,000 people a day going back and forth across the Mexican Border every day JUST IN TEXAS!" Well, announce it to the world that the place to get in is along the Tex-Mex border.

Judy, he actually means legal people who hold green cards or student visas who cross back and forth to work or go to school. Americans to Mexico and Mexicans to the USA. Not to defend him. Those are the ones that come to my city as well as other cities here in TX.

The illegals who just walk in don't generally come across at the border checkpoints becasue they could get cut from the herd. They say hundreds cross every day who don't get caught along with the hundreds every few weeks who do get caught. They cross illegally and that is why there is a need for the Minuteman Project and other people like them to keep an eye peeled on the border.

However, the tractor trailer loads, and pepsi cola truck loads, and people stuck in between the firewall and the dash who get smuggled in here because no one has time to check all those vehicles coming in are a major problem as well.

When 9-11 happened, the ones with student visas had to wait at the border too long so they were late for school. How kind we were to pay for them to stay in US HOTELS so they wouldn't be late for the schooling we also paid for.

I can't see why we can't close the borders entirely until we get this straightened out, personally.

They say the economy would suffer. I say, so what? Better it suffer a little now than crash entirely five years from now when we have more Mexicans and South Americans in this country than we have American Citizens.

This is nonsense!