Thread: Clamoring To Kill Bush's Biggest Trade Deal

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OPPONENTS CLAMORING FOR VOTE
TO KILL BUSH'S BIGGEST TRADE DEAL

ASSOCIATED PRESS May 31, 2005

WASHINGTON (AP) - It took less than three months for President Bush to push through Congress separate trade deals with Australia, Chile, Morocco and Singapore, but his biggest one - Central America - has been lingering for a year.

Despite another call Tuesday by Bush for Congress to pass it, the people clamoring most for a vote on the Central American Free Trade Agreement are not its supporters but opponents confident they can kill it.

"Put it to a vote immediately, or junk it and start over," said Sen. Byron Dorgan, D-N.D., who contends the agreement would result in more Americans losing jobs and a bigger trade deficit.

Backers of CAFTA had predicted a May vote on the pact that would eventually eliminate duties on almost all U.S. manufactured and farm products in Costa Rica, the Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras and Nicaragua. U.S. officials signed the agreement May 28, 2004, but it must be approved by Congress to take effect.

Rep. Kevin Brady, R-Texas, the House's chief proponent for CAFTA, says the vote will occur in late June or July. "I sense real momentum," he said, but added that his side isn't assured of a win until it is ahead by "one vote when they hit the gavel."

At Bush's news conference Tuesday, the president again promoted the agreement as "a good deal for American workers and farmers and small businesses."

"About 80 percent of the products from Central America and the Dominican Republic now enter the United States duty-free," he said. "CAFTA will level the playing field by making about 80 percent of American exports to those countries duty-free."

Both the Senate Finance and the House Ways and Means committees now plan to take procedural action in mid-June, something that must happen before floor votes can take place.

In addition to removing trade barriers to a market bigger than that of Russia, India and Indonesia combined, CAFTA proponents say the agreement will foster economic and political stability in Central America and confirm U.S. leadership in larger efforts to open markets worldwide.

Opponents, however, note the speed with which Bush's four other trade accords passed.

"If this were the right agreement, Congress would have passed it many months ago," said Rep. Sherrod Brown, D-Ohio.

Brown said that if the 435-member House voted now, 190 Democrats and 40 Republicans would vote against it. He acknowledged the margin could narrow as GOP leaders court fence-sitters with promises for their districts.

Democrats complain the agreement lacks labor and environmental protections to stop abuses of workers in poor, low-wage Central America. Republican opponents mainly come from textile areas hit hard by foreign competition or areas connected to the sugar industry, which considers CAFTA a threat to its future.

Rep. Virgil Goode, R-Va., said CAFTA will mean more shifting of manufacturing jobs overseas and a "downhill slide to Third World status."

The opponents include the House Congressional Hispanic Caucus. Fourteen of the 21 members of the all-Democratic group opposed it in a caucus vote, voicing concern that like NAFTA - the North American Free Trade Agreement with Mexico and Canada - it would widen the gap between rich and poor.

Rep. Hilda Solis, D-Calif., said that as the only member of Congress of Central American descent - her family is from Nicaragua and Mexico - she wanted to promote development in the region, but only with an agreement that "will prevent the exporting of U.S. jobs and the exploitation of workers abroad."

The Business Roundtable, an association of CEOs, last week joined other business groups in launching a media and lobbying effort on behalf of CAFTA.

The group said it would include a national phone bank and e-mail campaign, calls from corporate leaders to lawmakers, a national radio tour and a print advertising campaign. "We will not rest until Congress has completed the job on this agreement," said its president, John Castellani.

Motion Picture Association of America President Dan Glickman, who was Agriculture Secretary during the Clinton administration, also wrote lawmakers urging support. He said CAFTA would protect copyrights and intellectual property while providing duty-free treatment for exported U.S. movies, music, software, books and magazine.

It amazes me the same lies that were used to pass NAFTA are now being used to try to pass CAFTA. The last couple of days I saw European countries like France, Germany and now the Dutch people will soundly reject the EU treaty. They were smart enough to not get sucked into the NWO. They were allowed to vote on it. It is a disgrace that the American people aren't being allowed to voice their opinion and are kept from having a say so in this debate, much the same way as illegal immigration. Everyone knows that NAFTA was a disaster and yet Bush is pushing hard for a trade agreement that is actually worse. He knows he can't get his amnesty past so he's trying to push this through without the public knowing what hit them. This guy is hellbent on appeasing his big business cronies at all cost. He must be stopped and stopped cold. Otherwise you can say goodbye to the middle class of America.

Bush's says this is a good deal for America. No Jorge, it's only good for corporate America. In fact this is even a raw deal for Central America. This is nothing more than a deal where the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. This is a such a walking violation of workers rights. The only other thing this will ensure is that more citizens will be on the welfare rolls. This is disgusting.

This reminds me of the EU Constitutional Vote............many countries voted on it through their Parliments..........NOT A REFERENDUM THROUGH THE PEOPLE.

Do these TRADE AGREEMENTS fall under "Constitutional Law" re: the Congress? OR, do we have a loophole here?

The loophole is the President's Fast Track Trade Authority, which CONGRESS gave him, so readily again.....idiots they are..

Originally Posted by America_In_Danger

The loophole is the President's Fast Track Trade Authority, which CONGRESS gave him, so readily again.....idiots they are..

Well Said...

AMERICA wrote

The loophole is the President's Fast Track Trade Authority, which CONGRESS gave him, so readily again.....idiots they are

This is not my forte so I'm all ears.

Is there anyway to get it repealed? What are our options here?

Originally Posted by butterbean

"About 80 percent of the products from Central America and the Dominican Republic now enter the United States duty-free," he said. "CAFTA will level the playing field by making about 80 percent of American exports to those countries duty-free."

How about THIS suggestion, Georgie? Place an equal tariff on goods coming from other nations as they impose upon us? We tie the two together, and it will provide the other nations incentive to lower their tariffs, or keep paying it.

Do not give me any crap about how that is "protectionist" as the fact that THEY have tariffs is protectionist.

Even if both sides WERE to eliminate tariffs, we would STILL be on the losing end of the deal, since those countries do not have the expenses in production which our businesses are required to pay for, such as safety nets for workers etc. But it would be better than what we have now.

DonQuixote,
You are correct. Our Federal Government operated from tariffs until 1913 which means no Federal Income Tax.

Originally Posted by jp_48504

DonQuixote,
You are correct. Our Federal Government operated from tariffs until 1913 which means no Federal Income Tax.

Yep, in fact it is the ONLY constitutional manner for the government to raise revenue.

JP wrote

Our Federal Government operated from tariffs until 1913

OK, guys.......my memory is sketchy on this subject.

I do know that I read in some of our original documents info concerning TARIFFS. That our founding fathers were somewhat explicit about Tariffs and were concerned about how they were to be utilized.

Can you give me more info?
thanx!