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    CA. Gov. Brown Supports I.C.E. Secure Communities

    Gov Elect Brown Helping To Terrorize Immigrant Community-Supports ICE "Secure Communities"

    Tuesday Nov 30th, 2010 6:39 AM

    New Democratic Governor Jerry Brown is Helping To Terrorize Immigrant Community-Supports ICE "Secure Communities" Program Throughout State. This is not the first time Brown has supported police state tactics. He supported the police riot in Oakland while he was Mayor against peaceful anti-war protesters and ILWU longshore workers and worked closely with the Bush and Obama administration in "anti-terrorism" implementation laws. At the same time Brown refused to prosecute insurance companies and self-insured employers as well as corrupt District Attorneys for terrorizing injured workers and workers comp fraud cover-ups. He received millions from these crooks.

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    Gov Elect Jerry Brown Helping To Terrorize Immigrant Community-Supports ICE "Secure Communities" Program Throughout State

    Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Aurora wrote:
    Dear friends, allies and comrades, greetings!

    I, as so many others, are very concerned about the repercussions that the Secure Communities Program (S-Com) has for tens, or possibly hundreds, of thousands of members of our communities, so I did the best I could in my limited capacity, to inform myself on it's provisions, methods and how these were being implemented, with special focus on whether or not the Bill's procedural dictates/provisions were being carried out in accordance and in compliance with it.

    Again, in my limited capacity, I started hearing reports of people being summarily deported after being detained for minor offenses or infractions before they were convicted of any crime/s, we have been also hearing about how some of these persons were being coerced into signing guilty pleas to, allegedly, avoid being charged and convicted under more severe charges.

    Having been very familiar with the language in the legislation pertaining to S-Com, specially with the text in House Report 111-157 - DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY APPROPRIATIONS BILL, 2010, I was very alarmed at what I saw as non-compliance and/or, violations in it's implementation, or both, I was shocked to find out that our Attorney General in California signed a contract with HS/ICE to allow municipalities to participate in the program.

    Most of us are familiar with the events that followed the disclosure of the agreement, specially AG J. Brown's position on whether of not it was compulsory or voluntary for Counties to join, his declining of San Francisco Sheriff Michael Hennessey's request to have SF opt-out of the program; this caused a firestorm of controversy, but I felt the conversation was lacking discussions on the text in the bill other than what was related to participation.

    While many of us questioned Jerry brown on his signing of the contract, I wondered why also so many of us, including our National Community Organizations who have lawyers in their staff, such as MALDEF, LULAC, NCLR, etc., have not taken a closer look and actions, where and when warranted, on the issues that I bring up in the questions and arguments that I would raise in front of our Attorney General if he were to give me the opportunity to speak up in his presence.

    Fully aware that the chances of that occurring are from slim to non existent, the need and desire to speak up are still there, for, given that in addition to what I see as body punches to our community via pre-existing irregularities in the implementation of S-Com, he has given us what amounts to a slap in the face with his going to Arizona to vacation
    (In all fairness and full disclosure, it was mentioned by a friend of mine, that he has family in Arizona and probably that's the reason he chose to vacation there - maybe this is so, or maybe not, but to me, an explanation from his part was warranted, as would be also expected from anyone under the same circumstances.).

    So, if Jerry Brown were to give me time and attention to what I have to say, here is what I'd tell him:

    Mr. California Attorney General Jerry Brown, how many body punches and Arizona slaps-on-the-face are we supposed to take?

    It is fair to say that we, in the Hispanic/Latino Community, have been there for you in the past and in the 2010 California race for Governor we went all out for you again, this has been widely recognized, including by yourself, who posted in the Official Campaign Site some endorsements of Hispanic/Latino Community's Organizations.

    By the same token, it is important to declare that: it is a matter of record where you have been instrumental in making changes which helped our community and implemented policies that alleviated the burden and dangers that California workers in general faced and had to endure for many decades, most notably to us, in the Farm Labor Work Force's working conditions and compensation.

    Given our common past and present history, it came as a very unpleasant surprise to me, that for your well deserved after-the-election victory vacation, that in spite of the SB 1070 Boycott and your claims to stand by us, you decided to visit Arizona and spend you leisure time and money there.

    Did your Arizona visit gave it a degree of legitimacy? Did it embolden more Tea Party Operatives, such as Michael Erickson of Belmont CA, to introduce copycat Legislation for California via an Initiative?
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    I'll start with the slaps on the face and then follow up with the body punches you landed on us with your behavior and actions in the implementation of your contract with HS/ICE's Secure Communities (S-Com) For the State of California.

    Since I can't speak for the whole Hispanic/Latino Community, I won't; but I do strongly ask that you let me know why I shouldn't feel like if I was just slapped on the face by you vacation in Arizona, furthermore, I do also ask you to explain why I shouldn't feel it as further alaps on the face by your reticence to even explain how do you reconcile your position on SB 1070 and all of the exploitation, abuses and humiliation that our community continues to be subjected to, most notably in Maricopa County, with your pledges to stand by our side, vis a vis your choice to vacation in that state.

    With all due respect, Mr. California Attorney General and Governor Elect, what is there to prevent me from applying to you the same charges you made against Meg Whitman, together with the unflattering attributes? Again, with all due respect, is there anything you can say that would prevent me from calling you a hypocrite?

    Here are some posts at your web site, by the way, there is nothing posted in your 'solutions' page stating your positions on immigration or any proposal you make to deal with this issue in the State of California:
    NORTHERN CALIFORNIA LATINO COMMUNITY LEADERS AND ELECTED OFFICIALS BACK JERRY BROWN FOR GOVERNOR, BLAST MEG WHITMAN FOR LATINO, IMMIGRATION DOUBLE TALK

    "As Mayor, he cut Oakland's crime rate; and as Attorney General, he's using the latest technologies to crack down on criminal street gangs, catch killers, protect consumers from fraudsters, and protect Latinos, immigrants, and all working people from exploitation and abuse."

    Latino Leaders Back Brown For Governor, Call Out Whitman For Anti-Latino, Anti-Immigrant Record And Deceptive Ads
    And in the event you did forget that we went to bat for you, giving it our best shot, here is more information on the support you received from the Hispanic/Latino Community and if I might add, it was a critical voting block on your victory.

    Egregious as it was your choice of Arizona as your vacation spot, this pales in comparison to your behavior, acts and the performance in discharging your duties as California's Attorney General on the Homeland Security ICE Secure Communities Program contract with Municipalities in the Great State of California.

    Albeit I'm a lay person in legal matters, I was one of the many, not the first or the only one, to raise my voice in protest of your position on whether or not it was compulsory for California's Municipalities to participate in the S-Com program, our opinion from the beginning was that after reviewing the language in the SC/CIRCA Bill, there was nothing in it that would mandate making it compulsory for California's Cities or Counties to participate.

    The first test on your legal understanding of the provisions and your due diligence on the contract with S-Com, came when San Francisco's Sheriff Michael Hennessey, who upon learning of your signing the Contract with HS/ICE, was deeply troubled and send you a request to allow San Francisco to opt out of Secure Communities, here is the text of your reply to his request:
    California Attorney Jerry Brown’s reply to SF's Sheriff Hennesy:

    "Dear Sheriff Hennessey:
    I am writing in response to your letter regarding the Secure Communities program developed by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE). The program is scheduled to be rolled out in San Francisco next month. You requested that the California Department of Justice (DOJ) block ICE from running checks on the fingerprints collected in San Francisco. The Secure Communities program is up and running in 169 counties in 20 states, including 17 counties in California. Because I think this program serves both public safety and the interest of justice, I am declining your request...

    ... I appreciate your concern. But I believe that working with the federal government in this matter advances important and legitimate law enforcement objectives.

    Sincerely,

    EDMUND G. BROWN JR.
    Attorney General."
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    http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2010/1 ... 665310.php
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    OMG!

    "Dear Sheriff Hennessey:
    I am writing in response to your letter regarding the Secure Communities program developed by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE). The program is scheduled to be rolled out in San Francisco next month. You requested that the California Department of Justice (DOJ) block ICE from running checks on the fingerprints collected in San Francisco. The Secure Communities program is up and running in 169 counties in 20 states, including 17 counties in California. Because I think this program serves both public safety and the interest of justice, I am declining your request...

    ... I appreciate your concern. But I believe that working with the federal government in this matter advances important and legitimate law enforcement objectives.

    Sincerely,

    EDMUND G. BROWN JR.
    Attorney General."

    Did Jerry have some kind of mind blowing experience? I heard rumors he was tough as a AG here and would not take any crap, but this is over the top GREAT news....
    And I bet this realllllly pissssssses of the Wack jobs on the L 3 F t

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    The following states have more than 70% of their jurisdictions enrolled in the I.C.E. Secure Community Program.

    All other states do NOT.


    12/28/2010

    AZ. - 15 of 15 - 100%

    CA. - 41 of 58 - 71%

    DE. - 3 of 3 - 100%

    DC 1 OF 1 - 100%

    FL - 67 of 67 - 100%

    HI - 3 of 4 - 75%

    N.M. 32 of 33 - 97%

    N.C. 77 OF 100 - 77%

    TX. - 260 of 260 - 100%

    VA. - 129 of 129 - 100%

    W.V. 54 of 54 - 100%

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    12/28/2010
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    So far Jerry Brown is batting 1000! Wouldn't it be something if it's Jerry Brown who finally pulls California out of the nose dive we're in regarding illegal invaders!

    Mr. California Attorney General Jerry Brown, how many body punches and Arizona slaps-on-the-face are we supposed to take?
    Well since these measures target ONLY ILLEGAL INVADERS, you will get as many "body punches and Arizona slaps-on-the-face" as it takes to get you out of our country!

    So you better get used to it because it's not going to get any better for you! Americans are full of illegal invader fatigue and they are not going to take it any more!


    It is fair to say that we, in the Hispanic/Latino Community, have been there for you in the past and in the 2010 California race for Governor we went all out for you again, this has been widely recognized, including by yourself, who posted in the Official Campaign Site some endorsements of Hispanic/Latino Community's Organizations.
    If you listen to the tripe latinos put out, they are responsible for getting everyone elected! Talk about fantasy land!
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    Did NOT expect this!?!?
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    Cooperating with the indentification of dangerous criminals is equivalent to terrorizing the community. Gotta love that! Oh, and vaya con dios, of course; don't want to forget our manners.
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    The truth is coming out. They are not the victims. They are the Bully's.

    They band together in their gangs demanding and threatening from the schoolyards all the way to the governors office. I am getting tired of them thinking it is all about what they want and demand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MontereySherry
    The truth is coming out. They are not the victims. They are the Bully's.

    They band together in their gangs demanding and threatening from the schoolyards all the way to the governors office. I am getting tired of them thinking it is all about what they want and demand.
    So true Sherry. These people are as tribal as it gets. There is a big difference between a European descent latino and a Latin American Indian
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    cannot become thoroughly Americans if you think of yourselves in groups. President Woodrow Wilson

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    Now if we could only get the rest of the governors to support Secure Communities.

    Number of communities enrolled in Secure Communities.


    AL 0 of 67

    AL 0 of 27

    CO 0 of 64

    IN 0 of 92

    ME 0 of 16

    MN 0 of 87

    NH 0 of 10

    NY 0 of 62

    RI 0 of 5

    VT 0 of 14

    WA 0 of 39

    WI 0 of 72

    WY 0 of 23

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    If your state doesn't have Secure Communities it's time for letters, phone calls, FAXes, e-mails, office visits, etc. to your state government officials.
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