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    Conservative 'fly-in' aims to sell House GOP on immigration

    Conservative 'fly-in' aims to sell House GOP on immigration

    Alan Gomez, USA TODAY 4:43 p.m. EDT October 14, 2013

    About 300 conservatives will arrive on Capitol Hill later this month to press the need for immigration overhaul.


    Aaron Kates, center, of Grand Rapids, Mich., reads the Bible outside the office of House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, while others from several Christian denominations lobby for immigration reform on Oct. 8 on Capitol Hill.(Photo: Chip Somodevilla, Getty Images)

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    • Participants in the "fly-in" say they can better speak to the conservative members of the House
    • Coalition sponsoring event includes U.S. Chamber of Commerce, Partnership for a New American Economy, and FWD.us
    • Senate has passed a version of immigration bill; action is stalled in House

    WASHINGTON — During a rally on the National Mall last week, thousands of immigrants, union workers, civil rights activists and Democratic leaders called on the Republican-controlled House to pass a bill to revamp the nation's immigration system.

    But a much smaller group heading to Capitol Hill later this month may be more influential over Republicans who are skeptical that an overhaul is a good idea.

    About 300 conservatives from around the country and with varying backgrounds — pastors, farmers, police chiefs, business owners — will arrive in Washington on Oct. 28 to meet with Republican lawmakers and make a conservative pitch for a new immigration law.

    Participants in the "fly-in" say they can better speak to the conservative members of the U.S. House since they share many ideals on government.

    "I'm not an advocate of open borders. I'm not an advocate of blanket amnesty. I just see (undocumented immigrants) who are hurting and want to contribute to their family ... and the system is not working for them," said Jeremy Hudson, a pastor whose Fellowship Christian Church operates in House Speaker John Boehner's Ohio district.

    The fly-in is being organized not by conservative groups, but organizations that have focused on legalizing millions of people who are in the U.S. illegally and changing the legal immigration system to bring in more foreign workers.

    Ali Noorani, executive director of the National Immigration Forum, a group that has advocated for changes in immigration law to help legal and undocumented immigrants for three decades, said the broad collection coming to Washington represents "the conservative base of the Republican Party."

    Among those involved in the fly-in are the pro-business U.S. Chamber of Commerce; the Partnership for a New American Economy, which was founded by New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg; and FWD.us, co-founded by Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg and other tech-industry leaders who have been bankrolling campaigns that support immigration overhauls.

    The coalition organized another fly-in earlier in the year to push the Senate to pass its version of an immigration bill, which it did in July. That bill allows the USA's undocumented immigrants to apply for U.S. citizenship within 13 years, adds 20,000 Border Patrol agents to secure the Southwest border and increases the number of high-tech and lower-skilled foreign workers allowed into the country.

    In the House, however, Republicans are concerned that granting "amnesty" to the nation's 12 million undocumented immigrants should be done only after the border is truly secured to prevent future waves of illegal immigration.

    One anti-illegal immigration group says some of the individuals being brought to Washington to pressure conservatives are "establishment" leaders whose opinions do not reflect those of their members.

    Roy Beck, executive director of NumbersUSA, a group that opposes the Senate bill and advocates for lower levels of legal and illegal immigration, said evangelical church members do not embrace an immigration overhaul even though some pastors are coming to Capitol Hill to advocate for it.

    "They really don't represent the rank and file," Beck said.

    Lanae Erickson Hatalsky of the Third Way, a think tank that supports an immigration overhaul that includes citizenship for undocumented immigrants, says the fly-in differs from the usual gatherings of like-minded folks in Washington.

    "The kinds of rallies that get the progressive community together are really aimed at just keeping this conversation in the limelight and giving people something to do," Hatalsky said. "Those more conservative people and their unusual suspects are aimed at a different goal — actually persuading conservative members of Congress that this is something they need to do and providing them the political cover they need."

    Rep. Jason Chaffetz, R-Utah,is one of the conservative lawmakers the group will be speaking with. Chaffetz came to Congress in 2008 after beating out six-term incumbent Chris Cannon, a supporter of immigration reform.

    Chaffetz has come to embrace many aspects of immigration overhaul, sponsoring a bill that was passed by the House in 2011 to expand visas for high-tech workers and, more recently, expressing his support for a pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants.

    "Having more pastors, more business people, more farmers come and talk about their problems — I'm going to applaud that," Chaffetz said.

    But Chaffetz said the group will find that progress on their issue is stuck on Capitol Hill because of strong differences of opinion on how to improve the situation.

    Many of his House colleagues oppose granting legal status to undocumented immigrants before other aspects of immigration reform, such as border security and worksite enforcement, are settled, Chaffetz said. Until then, he said, no amount of conservative lobbying will convince the House to support a pathway to citizenship.

    "The numbers are not here in the House," he said. 'It's not even close."
    That won't stop 70-year-old rancher Terry Jones from making the trip from Emmett, Idaho.

    Jones, who describes himself as "a Tea Party person," said the nation's immigration system has made it impossible for him to find enough legal workers to staff his Rim Fire Ranch. He got tired of looking for legal workers so he sold his 700 dairy cows and leased his land to an outside company that does the work.

    "I was getting too old to fuss with finding the labor," Jones said. "We're not here wanting to break the laws. Heavens to Betsy, we've got stewardship of the land and our animals, employees we want to treat right and pay a fair wage to. But the government is just interested in ... who's going to get the credit, who's going to get the votes."

    Ujjwal Gupta hopes to persuade Republicans by showing how changes in immigration policy can help improve the American economy. The India native got a doctorate degree in chemistry from Pennsylvania State University and co-founded BenchPrep, a system that allows students to prepare for tests on their computers and mobile devices.

    Gupta said he and countless others are struggling to enter or remain in the United States legally

    Some, like Sen. Jeff Sessions, R-Ala., view the proposed increase in high-tech visas as an idea being pushed by U.S. employers to get cheaper workers. But Gupta says he wants to prove to members of Congress that their districts would benefit from more high-tech foreigners.

    "Now that you don't need a lot of money to start a technology company, there are going to be a lot more entrepreneurial hubs opening up," said Gupta, whose company operates out of Chicago. "Silicon Valley is going to be replicated in Austin, in the Midwest, in Boston, in New York. This immigration reform is going to have more impact outside (Silicon) Valley than inside it."

    Beck, of NumbersUSA, does not see the pressure campaign working.

    "If (a member of Congress) has an evangelical group come in and say 'We want you to pass comprehensive immigration reform,' back home, they are not getting that feeling from the evangelical congregations. So I think we have been, and continue to win, the credibility fight among Republicans in the House."

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2013/10/14/immigration-house-republicans/2961571/
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    The fly-in is being organized not by conservative groups, but organizations that have focused on legalizing millions of people who are in the U.S. illegally and changing the legal immigration system to bring in more foreign workers.

    Ali Noorani, executive director of the National Immigration Forum, a group that has advocated for changes in immigration law to help legal and undocumented immigrants for three decades, said the broad collection coming to Washington represents "the conservative base of the Republican Party."

    Among those involved in the fly-in are the pro-business U.S. Chamber of Commerce; the Partnership for a New American Economy, which was founded by New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg; and FWD.us, co-founded by Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg and other tech-industry leaders who have been bankrolling campaigns that support immigration overhauls.
    The broad base of the Republican Party? Where does this woman get her facts?

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    Among those involved in the fly-in are the pro-business U.S. Chamber of Commerce; the Partnership for a New American Economy, which was founded by New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg; and FWD.us, co-founded by Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg
    These people don't have anything to do with republicans and are NOT conservative!!
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    This is outrageous that liberal mega corporations are paying the expenses for these people to lobby for amnesty!

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    Two Of The Country's Most Conservative Groups Helped Bail Out Harry Reid At The Last Minute

    By Brett LoGiurato | Business Insider – 6 hours ago


    AP

    On Tuesday, it looked like Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid might be put into a tight spot.
    GOP leadership in the House planned to disrupt the Senate negotiations by pushing its own bill to lift the debt ceiling and reopen the government.

    The bill could have put Democrats including Harry Reid in an awkward spot because the GOP bill was not going to be wildly unreasonable — and because acquiescing to it would have been acquiescing to "ransom" demands.

    In the end, Reid was not forced into a difficult position. And he got some help from unlikely sources.

    First, around 5:15 p.m. Tuesday night, Heritage Action, an influential conservative group that has led the charge to "defund Obamacare" in recent months, came out and urged lawmakers to vote "no" on the House's legislation, arguing that it didn't do enough to change the Affordable Care Act.

    About an hour later, FreedomWorks echoed Heritage's key vote of "no," with president and CEO Matt Kibbe saying the legislation amounted to a "full surrender" from Republicans on Obamacare.

    A little while later, House GOP leadership shelved consideration of the legislation. A House GOP aide said that the legislation was "cooked" before the two conservative groups announced their opposition. But amid rising conservative angst, those two groups stuck the final knife in the House plan.

    A Senate Democratic aide said that they would have preferred if the House passed legislation, because it would speed up the process in a race to the Oct. 17 debt-ceiling deadline.

    "It would provide us a vehicle and allow us to move more quickly through the Senate process," the aide said.

    But the failure of the House legislation already appears to have done that, as Politico reports that the House may vote first on the Senate's emerging deal to reopen the government and raise the debt ceiling. If the House votes first, it would give the Senate an escape from weighty procedural hurdles and possibly allow the bill to come to President Barack Obama's desk by the deadline.

    The House legislation's failure also resigned Speaker John Boehner to the inevitable — he will have to put the Senate bill on the House floor, even though it will have to pass with a majority of Democratic votes and, likely, a minority of Republicans.

    The rank-and-file, by and large, is also quickly accepting the eventual end game. Rep. Sean Duffy (R-Wis.) told "Morning Joe" on Wednesday that the Senate legislation will pass the House. Rep. Jaime Herrera Beutler (R-Wash.) said in a statement that "it's time to face reality."

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/two-co...135558653.html

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