Thread: Stop the NAIS

Folks, could I please have your help on this? I see NAIS as a test for humans. I'm torn. I want illegals to have to have everything: DNA to run nationally for crime checks, retinal scans, fingerprints, etc (most of all to stay out!) and of course, because they're illegal, they are NOT going to step up and say" ID me, please." On the other hand, I want Citizens to be left alone!!!!!! These are obviously 180 degree apart! Thoughts, suggestions, links that might help? Thanks,

http://www.sierratimes.com/06/05/30/Paul.htm
Stop the NAIS
Rep. Ron Paul, M.D.

The House of Representatives recently passed funding for a new federal mandate that threatens to put thousands of small farmers and ranchers out of business. The National Animal Identification System, known as NAIS, is an expensive and unnecessary federal program that requires owners of livestock – cattle, dairy, poultry, and even horses – to tag animals with electronic tracking devices. The intrusive monitoring system amounts to nothing more than a tax on livestock owners, allowing the federal government access to detailed information about their private property.
In typical Washington-speak, NAIS is “voluntary” – provided USDA bureaucrats are satisfied with the level of cooperation. Trust me, NAIS will be mandatory within a few years. When was the last time a new federal program did not expand once implemented?

As usual, Congress is spending millions of dollars creating a complex non-solution to a very simple problem. NAIS will cost taxpayers at least $33 million for starters.

Agribusiness giants support NAIS, because they want the federal government to create a livestock database and provide free industry data. But small and independent livestock owners face a costly mandate if NAIS becomes law.

Larger livestock operations will be able to tag whole groups of animals with one ID device. Smaller ranchers and farmers, however, will be forced to tag each individual animal, at a cost of anywhere from $3 to $20 per head. And NAIS applies to anyone with a single horse, pig, chicken, or goat in the backyard – no exceptions. NAIS applies to children in 4-H or FFA. Once NAIS becomes mandatory, any failure to report and tag an animal subjects the owner to $1,000 per day fines.

NAIS also forces livestock owners to comply with new paperwork and monitoring regulations. These farmers and ranchers literally will be paying for an assault on their property and privacy rights, as NAIS empowers federal agents to enter and seize property without a warrant – a blatant violation of the 4th amendment.

NAIS is not about preventing mad cow or other diseases. States already have animal identification systems in place, and virtually all stockyards issue health certificates. Since most contamination happens after animals have been sold, tracing them back to the farm or ranch that sold them won’t help find the sources of disease.

More than anything, NAIS places our family farmers and ranchers at an economic disadvantage against agribusiness and overseas competition. As dairy farmer and rancher Bob Parker stated, NAIS is “too intrusive, too costly, and will be devastating to small farmers and ranchers.”

NAIS means more government, more regulations, more fees, more federal spending, less privacy, and diminished property rights. It’s exactly the kind of federal program every conservative, civil libertarian, animal lover, businessman, farmer, and rancher should oppose. The House has already acted, but there’s still time to tell the Senate to dump NAIS. Please call your Senators and tell them you oppose spending even one dime on the NAIS program in the 2007 agriculture appropriations bill.

If we condone any of the 'tracking' for any reason, we are only a step away ourselves. The tracking of farm animals is just 'the beginning' test data. That information would be used for further law configuration and implementations. Ultimately entire groups and religions could be tracked and controlled. Either accept the 'good of society' track and control or be an outcast. Expect penalties and fines for any groups out of compliance. The government insists they cannot deport millions of illegals, it's impossible, can't be done. Oh okay, and when masses of citizens take to the streets demanding the laws of our country be enforced don't think the government has not seen it coming. There's a place for us... and my opinion is that it's no place like home.

In Chicago they want it mandated for all pets to be tagged. They are hell bent in getting it done to us and I am against it.

Originally Posted by IndianaJones

If we condone any of the 'tracking' for any reason, we are only a step away ourselves. The tracking of farm animals is just 'the beginning' test data. That information would be used for further law configuration and implementations. Ultimately entire groups and religions could be tracked and controlled. Either accept the 'good of society' track and control or be an outcast. Expect penalties and fines for any groups out of compliance. The government insists they cannot deport millions of illegals, it's impossible, can't be done. Oh okay, and when masses of citizens take to the streets demanding the laws of our country be enforced don't think the government has not seen it coming. There's a place for us... and my opinion is that it's no place like home.

INDIANA!!! How very TRUE. If only people would understand the theory of eating an elephant one bite at a time.

So glad you said your peace on this terrible issue.

Do not support tagging anyone or anything.

Believe me that is the next thing coming up the pipeline. Verichip is already lobbying the government to use their little microchips in people. In fact it boggles my mind but people are doing it willingly.



I will not be be microchiped or my husband or my children. I will live outside the system when that day comes.

http://www.epic.org/privacy/rfid/verichip.html

Thanks, y'all....

I knew I could count on you! See, that's what I'm afraid of too. "Mark of the Beast" so to speak. I even think the SunPass that we have down here is a real start. It's an automatic debit gadget that goes in your car and when you go through a toll plaza, you can "go faster" cause it automatically debits your account on the fly...you don't have to stop! ETC. Don't have one.

I know they have GPS in cel phones, there's OnStar, etc. Of course credit cards......

In a way, I'm still naive about this stuff, cause I'm not a criminal......
It's hard for me to think this way...for the potential future, God help us!

So to protect us, we DON'T want national IDs for even visitors?

This is just soooo complex and convoluted.

NAIS is Big Brother gone ranching! It is a fraud designed to eliminate small farmers so as to control the food supply of the people. It does NOTHING to control disease while allowing the goobermint to monitor your home by satellite. If you've got a half-dozen laying hens, you've got to CHIP them ALL. If they fly off the property, you've got to write a report. When they come back, you've got to write a report. For EACH bird!

If your child has a pony, it's CHIPPED. If your child rides off your property, you've got to write a report. If your child goes to a 4-H rodeo, you've got to write a report. THAT report will need to include the RFID# of EVERY other animal your child's pony comes in contact with.

Raising alpacas? Goats? Pot-bellied pigs? Chip 'em!

You don't like the idea of your goobermint forcing you to comply? They can come CONFISCATE YOUR ANIMALS! (PROPERTY)

NAIS MUST DIE!!!

So to protect us, we DON'T want national IDs for even visitors?

CORRECT!

NO TAGS, NO CHIPS, NO BIOMETRICS!!!

Thanks, PinestrawGuys,

That's some example. And all those levels of gov't necessary to handle all those reports, are one reason why FEMA didn't work.

I agree...no national ID, biometrics, etc. Illegals won't step up to be ID'd anyway, unless the lawbreakers win.

And Miami is one of the hotspots for forged documents...so I get it! NAIS is another issue that will affect the illegal issue...and will confuse the non-farm/agri folk. Of course, our glorious media isn't reporting 'bout this either.

Mad cow disease is often cited as the reason for the need to tag. Cattle raised for beef don't live long enough for symptoms to show up- and aren't tested. That leaves milk cows right?

Since the whole mad cow testing project itself is VOLUNTARY, it seems to me a huge waste of money to tag.