Thread: Dems in the driver's seat on DACA

Dems in the driver's seat on DACA



Nov 12

Behind closed doors, and very quietly, lawmakers from both wings of both parties are scrambling to save DACA — a program that has protected from deportation nearly 800,000 young illegal immigrants who were brought to the U.S. as children.

As improbable as it sounds, it currently appears that the Bernie Sanders wing of the Democratic Party has more leverage than the Stephen Miller wing of the Republican Party when it comes to DACA.
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Obviously this could change. Nothing is solidified. But based on conversations with White House sources, top Hill aides from both parties, and immigration-restrictionist power-brokers, we have concluded that, at the moment, progressive Democrats hold a superior negotiating position to immigration hardliner Republicans.

This is because, on the DACA issue, President Trump has already blinked. Both publicly — in a Sep. 5 tweet, when he hinted he may reinstate DACA unilaterally if Congress can't save it — and privately, the president has indicated he doesn't have the stomach to let DACA die.

• One conservative member of Congress, who has discussed DACA with the president, told me Trump made very clear to him he was prepared to keep the protections in place beyond March — when the program is currently set to expire — if Congress does nothing.
• Roy Beck, an influential immigration hawk who runs NumbersUSA, said Trump's nominee for DHS Secretary, Kirstjen Nielsen, further reduced the administration's leverage last week when she assured in her confirmation hearing she would protect DACA recipients. "This doesn't strike me as being from the art of negotiations book, does it?" Beck told me.

Stephen Miller, one of the White House's only immigration hardliners, is telling conservative activists that Trump will back legislation giving current DACA recipients legal status — aka amnesty — in exchange for legislation ending chain, or family, migration. And Miller doesn't want the must-pass December spending bill to include a DACA fix.

That appears to be a non-starter. Top Democratic Senate aides have told me they think it's hilarious that Miller thinks he can get this deal, and that chain migration isn't going anywhere.

Where that leaves us:

• Congress must pass a spending bill by December 8. Bernie Sanders and other Democrats expected to run for president in 2020, including Kamala Harris, are effectively threatening to shut down the government over the issue — saying they won't vote for any spending bill unless it protects DACA recipients.
• Democrats are confident Trump won't have the stomach to let DACA expire.
• Democrats in leadership think this means that, despite Miller's opposition, they will be able to include a pathway to citizenship for DACA recipients in that must-pass spending bill.
• In exchange, they say they may allow modest increases in border security measures. But nothing that could reasonably be described as a "big beautiful wall" along the southern border.

Just to reiterate: Everything is up in the air. But the above scenario seems the most likely outcome, since it would placate both progressives and moderate Republicans.

Bottom line: Despite the fact that Donald Trump became president running on a historically anti-immigration platform — promising to end DACA on Day One, build a wall, and slash legal immigration — it currently looks like Capitol Hill and the White House may find a solution that would make Jeb Bush proud.

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The devil is in the details. "Must pass spending bill" ----i.e. Democrats are up to their old tricks of ramming through what they want because 'government shutdown' is bad. Makes you wonder if they will try piecemeal amnesty---attaching their goals to other 'must pass' bills in the future.

Don't blame it on the Democrats, the Republicans have been supporting this since the travesty began.

There is no difference in the two parties, except the rhetoric.

One time the 'democrats' will be the bad guys - next the 'Republicans' will - only in rhetoric. When it comes to voting, they vote the way they are told - and not by us.

Mickey Kaus




@kausmickey


Much of DC (probably including Trump) wildly underestimating the firestorm from Trump voters if his 1st immig bill is a Jeb-like amnesty + some window dressing




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Put the RAISE ACT in the Senate Tax Cut Bill, the welfare savings alone will more than pay for the deficit, SALT and a corporate and business rate of 15%. 87% of illegal aliens with children are on at least one form of welfare and almost 60% of all legal immigrants with children are on at least one form of welfare. The RAISE ACT funds deportations of those not supposed to be here, with amazing reductions in their welfare and education usage, and cuts in half the number of legal immigrants coming in here and signing up for welfare, ends all the costs of associated chain migration and gets rid of that awful visa lottery.

The tax savings are huge, therefore you can attach the RAISE ACT to the Senate Tax Cut Bill, the House will love it, because you can restore the full SALT deduction, and that's the end of any possible extortion by DemoQuacks for a DACA deal.

And THAT will be the biggest tax cut in US history!! All paid for by reductions in federal welfare and education monies being wasted on both illegal and excess immigration.

MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!

Illegal aliens are the legal guardians and custodians of THEIR minor children...not the USA or it's US taxpayers!

No illegal alien should be rewarded or compensated for any benefits and collect them on behalf of their minor children whether that child is a US citizen or otherwise!

Get them out of our schools, out of our healthcare system, off our welfare and food stamps and OUT of our country!

END ALL CARE GIVER SCAMS AND ADOPTION SCAMS!

YOU DO NOT DUMP YOUR CHILDREN ON ANOTHER COUNTRY TO PAY FOR!

DEPORT THE WHOLE STINKING FAMILY! THE PARENTS TAKE THEM WITH THEM!

THEY ARE NOT PUPPIES YOU DUMP ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD YOU SICK DISGUSTING PEOPLE