Thread: Texas,Utah & New Mexico: AZ Is Dumping Their Illegals On

Illegal Immigrants Plan to Leave Over Arizona Law
Wednesday, 28 Apr 2010 06:31 PM

Many of the cars that once stopped in the Home Depot parking lot to pick up day laborers to hang drywall or do landscaping now just drive on by.

Arizona's sweeping immigration bill allows police to arrest illegal immigrant day laborers seeking work on the street or anyone trying to hire them. It won't take effect until summer but it is already having an effect on the state's underground economy.

"Nobody wants to pick us up," Julio Loyola Diaz says in Spanish as he and dozens of other men wait under the shade of palo verde trees and lean against a low brick wall outside the east Phoenix home improvement store.

Many day laborers like Diaz say they will leave Arizona because of the law, which also makes it a crime to be in the U.S. illegally and directs police to question people about their immigration status if there is reason to suspect they are illegal immigrants.

Supporters of the law hope it creates jobs for thousands of Americans.
"We want to drive day labor away," says Republican Rep. John Kavanagh, one of the law's sponsors.

An estimated 100,000 illegal immigrants have left Arizona in the past two years as it cracked down on illegal immigration and its economy was especially hard hit by the Great Recession. A Department of Homeland Security report on illegal immigrants estimates Arizona's illegal immigrant population peaked in 2008 at 560,000, and a year later dipped to 460,000.

The law's supporters hope the departure of illegal immigrants will help dismantle part of the underground economy here and create jobs for thousands of legal residents in a state with a 9.6 percent unemployment rate.

Kavanagh says day labor is generally off the books, and that deprives the state of much-needed tax dollars. "We'll never eliminate it, just like laws against street prostitution," he says. "But we can greatly reduce the prevalence."

Day laborers do jobs including construction, landscaping and household work for cash paid under the table. Those jobs have been harder to find since the housing industry collapsed here several years ago.

Standing near potted trees and bushes for sale at a Home Depot in east Phoenix, Diaz, 35, says he may follow three families in his neighborhood who moved to New Mexico because of the law. He says a friend is finding plenty of work in Dallas.

Diaz says he has too much to lose by staying — he's supporting a wife and infant son back home in Ciudad Juarez, Mexico, across the border from El Paso, Texas.

"They depend on me to survive," he says. "I'm not going to wait for police to come and arrest me."

Jose Armenta, a 33-year-old illegal immigrant from Mexico's western coast, is already planning to move to Utah within the next 20 days because of a combination of the economy and the new law.

"A lot of people drive by," he says as he watched nearby cars speeding past, "and they yell, 'Hey, go back to Mexico!'"

Analysts say it's too soon to tell what lasting effects the law will have on the state's underground work force, which also includes baby sitters, maids and cooks.

A study of immigrants in Arizona published in 2008 found that non-citizens, mostly in the country illegally, held an estimated 280,000 full-time jobs. The study by researcher Judith Gans at the University of Arizona examined 2004 data, finding that they contributed about 8 percent of the state's economic output, or $29 billion.

Losing hundreds of thousands of unskilled laborers wouldn't hurt the state's economy in the short term, but it could limit the economy's ability to grow once it recovers, says Marshall Vest, director of the Economic and Business Research Center at the University of Arizona's Eller College of Management.
Legal workers who are willing to take any available job now will become more choosy if the unemployment rate falls back to low levels seen before the recession hit.

"That's really the question, as to whether the existing population is willing to work those (low-level) jobs," Vest says. "I think economics provides the answer. If job openings have no applicants, then businesses need to address that by raising the offered wage."

Some illegal immigrants, however, intended to stick around.
Natalia Garcia, 35, from Mexico City, says she and her husband — a day laborer — will stay so their daughters — both born in the U.S. — can get a good education and learn English. The couple have been living in Arizona illegally for the last 10 years.

"Mexico doesn't have a lot of opportunities," she says. "Here, we work honestly, and we have a better life."

Olga Sanchez, 32, from southern Mexico, lives in Phoenix illegally with her two brothers, who are 21 and 17. While the youngest boy is in high school, all three work and send money back home to their parents.

"This law is very bad for us," says Sanchez, who gets about $250 a week cleaning three houses. "I'm afraid of what's going to happen."

She says the family is going to wait and see if the law takes effect and what the fallout will be before deciding whether to leave. The law is certain to be challenged in court; Phoenix, Tucson and Flagstaff already are considering lawsuits.

"All I ask from God is a miracle for us to stay here and work," she says.


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Hello? Arizona isn't "dumping its Illegals" on anyone. Arizona is simply taking a stand that enough is enough. It's up to those states who feel dumped upon to pass stronger Illegal immigration laws of their own. Start taking care of your own people and then perhaps you can be open to LEGAL immigrants from Mexico.

"The law's supporters hope the departure of illegal immigrants will help dismantle part of the underground economy here and create jobs for thousands of legal residents in a state with a 9.6 percent unemployment rate."

Texas, Utah and New Mexico needs to find a pair and enact their own laws similar to AZ.

Sorry that you seem to have taken my comment as negative towards Arizona as that is not what was intended. More power to Arizona!

My point as highlighted in the article is none of the illegal aliens interviewed are going back to mexico, instead they are going to another state where elected officials are not taking action to protect their citizens.





Make A Difference, Spend Your Next Vacation Dollar In Arizona

Illegals will move to states that do not enforce immigration laws. When ALL states start cracking down, then they will leave the US.

The AZ law works!!

Originally Posted by SovereignMan

Sorry that you seem to have taken my comment as negative towards Arizona as that is not what was intended. More power to Arizona!

My point as highlighted in the article is none of the illegal aliens interviewed are going back to mexico, instead they are going to another state where elected officials are not taking action to protect their citizens.


Make A Difference, Spend Your Next Vacation Dollar In Arizona

That's what I thought you meant. The other states need to enact their own laws if they don't want the illegals to simply up and move to their states.

I would love to vacation in AZ but I would make sure the hotel used E-Verify.

We WILL be going to AZ this summer for a vacation. The kids have not had the pleasure of riding a mule down the North Rim of the Grand Canyon - one of the 7 wonders of the world.

I dont think AZ had a thing to worry about with all these boycotts. Once all the screaming settles down, the rest of the country will see what a good thing this is....well, maybe everyone except the politician here in CA.

Since Houston and Texas pretty much function as Sanctuaries for the ILLEGALS we should be prepared for more ILLEGALS; of course we don't seem to have enough jobs for all of our ILLEGALS now wondering the streets looking for trouble. I can see our Houston and Texas ILLEGALS wanting the borders of TEXAS defended from the ARIZONA ILLEGALS!

Wow, the cheap illegal alien labor users sure got to Perry fast. Texas is likely to suffer now that Rick Perry has been given a pass on illegal immigration during the recent Republican Primary. Since the new AZ law only reinforces Federal law it is not too hard to tell which side of the Amnesty fence Perry stands on. There is always hope though. Just look at all the good Oklahoma has been able to do despite their Amnesty supporting Governor. Good luck.


— In Texas, Republican Gov. Rick Perry said such a law would be wrong for his state to adopt, citing a Texas tradition of rejecting harsh anti-immigrant policies. "I fully recognize and support a state's right and obligation to protect its citizens, but I have concerns with portions of the law passed in Arizona and believe it would not be the right direction for Texas," Perry said.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=10505268

Come to Texas, Governor Perry has created a sanctuary for you.