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    DHS Official: Donald Trump Wants DACA Illegals to Get Amnesty, Become Citizens

    DHS Official: Donald Trump Wants DACA Illegals to Get Amnesty, Become Citizens

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    by NEIL MUNRO3 Oct 2017


    President Donald Trump thinks it makes sense to sign an amnesty for young illegal immigrants and to let them become citizens, an official from the Department of Homeland Security told Senators on Tuesday.

    “Under a rational bill, these [DACA] individuals would be able to become lawful permanent residents with a pathway to citizenship,” Michael Dougherty, the assistant secretary for border, immigration and trade policy, told GOP Sen. John Kennedy during a Tuesday hearing of the Senate judiciary committee.

    The statement reflected Trump’s turnabout since his election campaign when he promised to send all illegals homewards, including the 800,000 younger illegals who got work permits via former President Barack Obama’s 2012 “DACA” amnesty.

    However, Dougherty declined to provide Kennedy with any guidance about what security measures, border-wall improvements or immigration reforms must be packaged to create an “rational” amnesty for the younger illegals, whose numbers include roughly 3.3 million of the approximately 12 million illegals residing in the United States.

    “So the president believes they should be allowed to stay,” Kennedy asked Dougherty, 92 minutes into the hearing.

    “The president, yes, would like to work with Congress to get a solution,” Dougherty answered the Lousiana Senator.


    “Under what conditions does the president believe they should be allowed to stay?” Kennedy asked.
    “I don’t have those details for you, sir,” replied Dougherty.

    “We need all the assistance we can get,” said Kennedy, whose used the “dreamers” term to describe the illegals, not young Americans.

    “We need clarity from the administration,” said North Carolina GOP Sen. Thom Tillis told the administration officials. Tillis is pushing his own pro-business amnesty bill that would allow the illegals to get citizenship in 15 years.

    Administration officials have promised to provide clarity in a few days, once they have completed a strategic plan for immigration reform. They began preparing the pan following the disastrous September 13 meeting in the White House with the Democrats’ leaders in the Senate and House, Minority Leader Sen. Chuck Schumer and Minority Leader Rep. Nancy Pelosi. The Democrats emerged from teh meting claiming that Trump had agree to a no-strings, no-wall amnesty for the 3.3 million younger illegals.


    The White House plan is expected to include parts of the popular RAISE Act, which would raise Americans’ wages by cutting unskilled “chain migration” arrivals of new citizens’ family relations. That bill is backed by Trump, Georgia Sen. David Perdue and Arkansas Sen. Tom Cotton.

    Dougherty told the Senators that the White House’s priorities include “border control, expanding the ability to quickly remove people who enter illegally and do not claim asylum, better vetting, reducing visa overstays, reforming non-immigrant business visas and establishing a merit-based system that favors skilled immigrants,” according to a Reuters report.

    The Senators and witnesses did not talk about the scale and cost of an amnesty, which could quickly reach a record-breaking 3.3 million — not counting subsequent chain migration — at a record-breaking cost of at least $116 billion over ten years. Democratic Senators portrayed the young illegals as an economic boon to the United States, even though relatively few have productive skills.

    Democratic Senators pleaded with Trump’s officials to not push for any concessions in an amnesty deal, hinting the illegal-immigrant political activists are unable to accept any conditions or compromise that might hinder amnesty and government aid for their siblings, parents and foreign relatives. Young illegal immigrants protesting outside the White House told Breitbart News in September that they oppose immigration reductions, enhanced enforcement or funding for a border wall.

    “Building a wall can’t stop people coming into different countries … it is a better opportunity for their families,” said Jessica A. who was part of a group from Trinity Washington University in Washington D.C. “I can’t say that needs to stop,” she told Breitbart.


    “Please do not put the burden on the Dreamers to accept every aspect of comprehensive immigration reform to get a chance to become citizens of the United States,” Illinois Democratic Sen. Dick Durbin said vehemently. “That is too much to ask,” he said, adding that leaders could talk about “‘some reasonable way” on “border security.” Durbin also used the term “dreamer” to describe young illegals, not young Americans.

    Texas Republican Sen. John Cornyn called for a series of small-scale immigration bills. “I don’t think we’re capable of passing a comprehensive immigration bill,” he said, so Congress should start with border security and interior enforcement bills. “That is the first step — not the last step,” he said. “We need to regain the [voters’] trust … the American people simply don’t trust us to solve the problem.”




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    No, DACA situation is not a "nightmare" at all. It's the greatest theft of citizen lives, jobs, educations, peace of mind, security and opportunity in the history of the US, the same as the theft by all illegal aliens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgiaPeach View Post
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    Trump Administration Backs Citizenship Path for 'Dreamers': Official

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    I think everyone who works in DHS needs to be careful about speaking their own mind and opinion as a "Trump" position. Trump has said over and over again that there would be no amnesty or citizenship as part of any DACA "deal".
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    President Donald Trump thinks it makes sense to sign an amnesty for young illegal immigrants and to let them become citizens, an official from the Department of Homeland Security told Senators on Tuesday.
    ENOUGH SAID - TRUMP HAS BETRAYED AND LIED TO HIS VOTERS!
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    Quote Originally Posted by artist View Post
    ENOUGH SAID - TRUMP HAS BETRAYED AND LIED TO HIS VOTERS!
    Trump didn't say that. He said the opposite, no amnesty, no citizenship.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judy View Post
    I think everyone who works in DHS needs to be careful about speaking their own mind and opinion as a "Trump" position. Trump has said over and over again that there would be no amnesty or citizenship as part of any DACA "deal".
    These folks are spokesman for Trump. Do you honestly think they would give the impression they were speaking for Trump if they weren't? What employee, interested in keeping his or her job, would do such a thing? These folks are relaying the message they're getting from Trump ..... it's not their own position or opinion ...... it's Trump's position flavor of the day.

    As for what actually comes out of Trump's mouth. Well, it's impossible to ascertain his true position based on what he says. His position is based on who he is speaking to at that specific moment or who influenced him that morning and is subject to change on a daily, weekly, or monthly basis, depending on who he's speaking to or has been influenced by.

    President Trump, like most other amnesty supporters, is currently attempting to redefine the word "amnesty" but it's not going to work!
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    Trump OKs DACA Amnesty: ‘This Is a Case of Heart’


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    Illegal aliens who crossed the border as children don’t have to worry about being sent home, President Donald Trump told the Associated Press in a Friday interview.


    Illegals enrolled in the President Barack Obama’s “Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals” DACA program can “rest easy,” Trump said, because “this is a case of heart.” . . .
    NO AMNESTY

    Don't reward the criminal actions of millions of illegal aliens by giving them citizenship.


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    It is a shame we elected a president who we thought would put Americans first before foreign citizens and yet the constant focus by this administration and its departments is getting amnesty for illegal aliens. The borders are not secured, Mexico is not securing its side and illegal aliens are still getting across, including criminals, gangs, drug cartels, potential terrorists.

    The "dreamer" group is dangerous to our nation. They display anti-American sentiments, they belong to radical groups, they are having children and transplanting their social justice thinking, they have siblings and parents and mixed up immigration households. They will be democrat voters for decades.

    Any desire to give amnesty to anyone by President Trump would be a terrible betrayal. There is no deal acceptable to democrats and republicans that is a good deal for American citizens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MW View Post
    These folks are spokesman for Trump. Do you honestly think they would give the impression they were speaking for Trump if they weren't? What employee, interested in keeping his or her job, would do such a thing? These folks are relaying the message they're getting from Trump ..... it's not their own position or opinion ...... it's Trump's position flavor of the day.

    As for what actually comes out of Trump's mouth. Well, it's impossible to ascertain his true position based on what he says. His position is based on who he is speaking to at that specific moment or who influenced him that morning and is subject to change on a daily, weekly, or monthly basis, depending on who he's speaking to or has been influenced by.

    President Trump, like most other amnesty supporters, is currently attempting to redefine the word "amnesty" but it's not going to work!
    That's right, they do not speak for him. They mess up all the time. They speak for themselves. This Dougherty guy hasn't met with Trump to discuss this. Trump met with Republicans Monday night and was as clear as mud with them. He gave them the big laundry list of what he demands in exchange for some type of DACA deal and left it right there in the mud for them to wrestle with. Trump doesn't want a DACA deal if you ask me. It makes no sense, it costs hundreds of thousands of jobs for Americans who need them, costs billions and billions of dollars to support them and their anchor babies, why would he want a stupid DACA deal? He wanted the debt ceiling raised to deal with the Hurricanes and keep the government running. He wanted the health care bill and tax cuts passed.

    I realize it looks like Trump is redefining amnesty, he like many operate with a different definition from the one we use, he equates amnesty with citizenship and regardless of what amnesty he's referring to when he says no amnesty, he and we know what he means when he says no citizenship.

    There is no deal on DACA, never was, only in the minds of Chuck and Nancy. Just my opinion, but I think he played them to get the debt ceiling increase and hoped he could pull out a passing vote in the Senate on the health care bill. He got one but not the other.
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