Looting is a felony, these people should have gone to jail!Quote:
Originally Posted by tiredofapathy
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Looting is a felony, these people should have gone to jail!Quote:
Originally Posted by tiredofapathy
...not only jail. They should be convicted of their thefts swiftly, and permanently removed from this country.Quote:
Originally Posted by MountainDog
It just occurred to me...
After they let them go, just where do you think they went?
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Welcome to ALIPAC latina, ToeNee,
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Wow it looks like our family is growing. I think the illegals have hit a new low, this one will be hard for people to overlook.
What really gets me is ther were here for 13 years and can not speak ENGLISH and I bet the anchor babys can not speak english either.
I bet mom has trained them on how to suck the government tit though.
No bet, I hate losing.Quote:
Originally Posted by MARKSKI67
WELCOME TO ALIPAC MARKSKI67
It's sad that WhatMattersMost posted that we should rescind the 14th Amendment. Why not rescind the Bill of Rights for that matter? Oh, I forgot, this administration has effectively already done so.
However, what needs to be done are five commonsense things.
1. Enforce existing laws regarding immigration
2. Amended the 14th Amendment so that children born to people here illegally aren’t given citizenship and that those here legally have to make application and pass certain criteria.
3. Suspend funds to sanctuary cities and states.
4. Impeach officials, including the president, if they refuse to protect our borders.
5. Pass and enforce laws penalizing those who hire or protect illegal immigrants.
One last point for to consider all those who claim that those who want to stop illegal immigration are heartless or racist. Take an honest and hard look at Mexico’s immigration laws. They’re draconian compared to ours. Perhaps we should consider adopting Mexico’s immigration laws.
OK, here's the lastest word on this from a BP spokesman.
The Police realeased the four as they had no proof of guilt and the other admitted to the thefts and told the Police they were here illegally so they called BP and turned them over to them. BP cannot arrest for these types of crimes so basicly they will be deported and that's all they will get.
It sounds like a screwup but keep in mind there was a lot going on due to the fires.
...and of course they will be back in the US by sundown! Of course someone at ICE will be checking by the home of the criminals later to see if they have returned, right? My guess is no. And since the Spanish news stations and pro-illegal groups including the ACLU will be monitoring the couple who weren't arrested in hopes of bringing charges against anyone willing to uphold the law, this entire episode will slip quietly into the annals of history as if nothing ever happened.
On the flip side, this kind of thing lets people know the basic moral character of illegals. They are not all the poor downtrodden saints the media would like for us to think they are.Quote:
Originally Posted by MountainDog
My question to Ms. Munoz is wht didn't you keep them until you found out who they were selling/reporting to?
What REALLY gripes me is the ones they didn't arrest because "Thier children were American citizens". I'm am soooo sick and tired of them using thier anchor babies to fabricate a reason to stay. The time is way past for them to STOP BIRTHRIGHT CITIZENSHIP!!!!! It IS NOT too much to ask that at least one parent be a legal citizen. There was a bill before the house to stop it but that bill has gone to "committiee" which means they are trying to bury it. I think it's time to resurect it and get it passed. That would close one more of the many loopholes these maggots are using to access social programs such as WIC and welfare as well as have a "reason" to be allowed to stay.
Lastly I'd like to say that I don't believe the children should be seperated from their families. I do believe in "family reunification". Deport the whole family, revoke the "citizenship" of any that are born here and tell them and the Mexican government to shut up about it!!!!
I wonder why the folks having the supplies stolen didn't form a posse and [Mod Edit]!!!! Oh well, wishful thinking. LOL
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WELCOME ALL
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Welcome
latina
ToeNee
ryan182
djlavin
DrEd
BlueCollarBlonde
cplob
surfwolf
kenrog
badco8
legalatina
Cathy
Rich6016
janadu
Lara67
Kreativeart
razzman1986
MontereySherry
Neuromancer
And upsman again.
There are a lot of new members in this thread. Many on this list made their first post on this topic!
I hope I didn't miss anyone.
Wow! It feels like we're having a party!!
A hearty welcome to all.
I'm glad you're here.
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Call me insensitive, but, just goes to show you ILLEGAL ALIENS ARE ALWAYS LAW BREAKERS AND THIEVES OF SOME SORT!!!!
Welcome jz2dQuote:
Originally Posted by jz2d
Welcome aboard jz2d! Thanks for joining us. :D
Re: your initial comments: yes, lawbreaking is lawbreaking is lawbreaking... need I say more? :lol:
Good grief how many new people have we gotten this week. How did all over hear about ALIPAC?
Hi everybody, thanks for inviting me in on the forum. I sometimes get so upset with the idiots on capitol hill, that i could just scream, but no one gives a damn unless you're illegal then the doors open wide for you. I am always sending emails to the nincompoops that run Michigan and truthfully they don't care!!! Must be some great kickbacks and perks. I wonder if this keeps going on in our USA if legal citizens are going to start taking the law into their own hands? Then the crap will really hit the fan and tempers will be let loose.
The Border Patrol should be used to these THUGS by now. Illegal aliens are probably stealing and then selling everything on ebay or somewhere else for a profit. They have no compassion for anyone. IMO, illegal aliens are nothing but destructive leeches, and are lawless, mindless, IDIOTS.Quote:
The Border Patrol were shocked when they arrested the illegal aliens stealing the food and water destined for the fire survivors, the illegal alien driver was sober.
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jz2d: Ubetcha - the main thing is, we have to keep in mind to work within the law to solve these problems. That is what we are fighting for, and believe it can be done (it just won't be easy, of course). But, I do honestly believe, that is the American way... :wink:
Gogo: New signups are close to 100 in the last 4-5 days alone...just FYI.
Wow 100 in the last 4-5 days. Incredible. Not as big as NumbersUSA yet but we're heading that way. :lol: I just keep talking and giving the site and if each of us do it will grow. It doesn't hurt to have W on Fox News either. LOL
Maybe the shock was that "the illegal aliens driver was sober" 8OQuote:
The Border Patrol were shocked when they arrested the illegal aliens stealing the food and water destined for the fire survivors, the illegal alien driver was sober.
It is looking like that used to be the American way.Quote:
Originally Posted by PhredE
The Revolutionaries in the government seem to prefer the illegal invader and all of the lawlessness that surrounds them as their new preferred resident.
Back in the sixties they launched the, "Zero Population Growth", "Family Planning" and birth control pills on us when we were school children. They've changed the name of some of the programs to things like safe sex but the results are still the same.
At the same time they were telling use the children we were about to have were unwanted because the population was rising so fast and there wasn't going to be enough room on the roads, water and other natural resources, they were wedging the floodgates open for their illegal invaders. They seem to have no trouble finding plenty of room for them and their extended families!
They blatantly support them and the lawlessness by doing things like refusing to enforce laws like protecting our borders and our resources such as those stolen from the fire victims.
Really, I wouldn't be surprised if they still went back for another load. Why wouldn't they?
When they are busted crossing the border they are just given a trip back to the border to try again in a few hours. Why wouldn't they?
When the employers of the illegal invaders has lightning strike and does have a raid does anything ever happen to them? Why wouldn't they just go back to business as usual?
We are living a double standard and are losing. The Revolutionaries on the government, the criminals in business, and the illegal invader operate in a lawless manner and are rewarded.
"We the People" of this once great nation hold themselves to a higher standard.
"We the People" of many other countries are holding themselves to a higher standard. Many countries of the world are in the same fix we are.
How much longer can we keep holding?
If they don't join us in obeying the law it will have to be us that join them in the lawlessness. How else will we be able to compete?
StokeyBob,
Recall well that 60's talk about population control, etc and I was all for it. That was huge with the msm then.
Living in southern CA you could see the roads and everything getting crowded.
But somehow along the way someone somewhere decided more people were needed. Wasn't it American citizens that were needed? Guess not.
So borders were unprotected to allow people in.
There are too many people here. It's obvious!
But more money means more money for businesses. That is largely the root of the problem, big business.
I grew up in a time where people had respect for the law but when I see my own politicians not following the law something is very very wrong.
jean,
Many got caught up in it. The Main Stream Media pushed it on television and the government made sure we all heard about it in school.
If your one of the ones that had your children whacked with out a say it doesn't seem to make much sense now. What were they/we thinking?
Maybe if you see just what the government has done to us it doesn't either.
Some of what they said is true. The roads are now unsafe and crowded. Water is getting scarce.
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The source for this chart is from NumbersUSA.
This chart shows what the governments of many of the countries that once led the world in many fields have done to their populations as well. It is an Undocumented Holocaust.
I remember when B. Clinton was big on welfare reform.
IMO it was important for the globalits to get all those poor American woman and children off welfare, get more Americans paying taxes to pay for their New World Order: illegal workers, voters, criminals.
Now, here comes Hitlery to put the nail in the coffin...Not.
Now the jig is up and we are on to them. They are still up to every sneaky, underhanded lie they can try to steal everything in sight with help of their guest workers/welfare recipients.
Jean, I have been saying this for 10 years, and it has increasingly gotten worse to the point that it is smothering now. I work in downtown Chicago and while I have only seen movies of the crowds in China that is exactly how I feel everyday during what I call my death commute and walk to work. I hear no less than 3 languages daily. You would think that telephones were a new invention. Everybody yammering rudely in a multitude of languages no matter where you go. Then there are the four seaters on the train where foreign born men knock you down (primarily Pakistanis) so they can sit together and yammer like a bunch of hens (in their foreign tongue) for the 35 minute ride. There is no peace and barely any oxygen no matter where you go. The population explosion is unbelievable. I am researching small towns in the US, preparing to take a wage cut and move somewhere within the US that America and English still exists, I just hope it's possible. :cry:Quote:
But somehow along the way someone somewhere decided more people were needed. Wasn't it American citizens that were needed? Guess not.
So borders were unprotected to allow people in.
There are too many people here. It's obvious!
Due to the wild fires, more than half a million people were displaced from their homes, which is approximately one of every six residents in San Diego, the second largest county in California, with thousands of acres burned, and many, many homes lost, including some precious lives.
According to the San Diego Union-Tribune, “Ecological experts fear that native habitat in parts of the county that were scorched in the 2003 wildfires and then burned again in the latest blazes may be unable to recover.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metr ... ology.html
What they failed to talk about in this article was the impact of unchecked illegal immigration on the habitat, i.e. tons of trash and human waste, the transport of disease, illegal campfires, throwing of firebombs at border patrol officers, gang violence, terrorism, etc. Don't they think these things also have a huge impact on the environment?
According to another San Diego Union-Tribune story: "Officials have said lightning strikes and campfires started by illegal immigrants are the two most common causes of fires in the forest south of Interstate 8â€
[quote]Here is an interesting quote from the first article I referenced: “The native vegetation typically doesn't recover once it has been taken over by alien grasses.â€
Welcome kreativeart
Glad to have you in the fight. Thanks for your activism of spreading the word. Are you familiar with NumbersUSA? Roy Beck's video is jaw dropping.
You stated:
"What they failed to talk about in this article was the impact of unchecked illegal immigration on the habitat, i.e. tons of trash and human waste, the transport of disease, illegal campfires, throwing of firebombs at border patrol officers, gang violence, terrorism, etc. Don't they think these things also have a huge impact on the environment?"
You're right so many of the MSM don't report that. Sean Hannity had a week series on "The Price We Pay" for illegal immigration. One of the nights did hit on the environmental mess and showed pictures of it. Then you have to laugh at the environmentalists trying to stop the fence because of a lizard or plant. They are ignoring the real cost to the environment including the Border Patrol and Forest Service saying the illegals are taking eggs from birds in desert and eating them.
Hey Kreativeart!
Thanks for the post and welcome to the family!
Isn't non-enforcement of the law the same as breaking the law? If it is, then why can't a huge group of citizens sue our elected officials for either breaking the law of non perfomance of their duties?? Think about it!!!
Oh, it's been thought of my friend. The problem is that the same government who is not enforcing those laws also controls the Judcial branch of government. Can you imagine how much time and money would be wasted in a protracted court battle that would go on for years and years? By the time the smoke cleared and a ruling was made we'd all be speaking Spanish... :cry:
I don't just think about it I report some of the cases of aiding and abetting of the illegal aliens by sworn officials.Quote:
Originally Posted by upsman
Many of them are boldly going where few criminals have dared to go before; right out in front of the Main Stream Media!
This is a link to something that was brought to my attention this weekend.
http://www.alipac.us/ftopict-88512-.html
[size=84]Excerpts of Aiding and Abetting Laws and links.
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/...08_00001324----000-.html
Section 8 USC 1324(a)(1)(A)(iv)(b)(iii)
"Any person who . . . encourages or induces an alien to . . . reside . . . knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such . . . residence is . . . in violation of law, shall be punished as provided . . . for each alien in respect to whom such a violation occurs . . . fined under title 18 . . . imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both."
http://www.dol.gov/esa/regs/statutes/whd/0006.iana.htm
Section 274 felonies under the federal Immigration and Nationality Act, INA 274A(a)(1)(A):
A person (including a group of persons, business, organization, or local government) commits a federal felony when she or he:
* assists an alien s/he should reasonably know is illegally in the U.S. or who lacks employment authorization, by transporting, sheltering, or assisting him or her to obtain employment, or
* encourages that alien to remain in the U.S. by referring him or her to an employer or by acting as employer or agent for an employer in any way, or
* knowingly assists illegal aliens due to personal convictions.
Also see authority to arrest;
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/search/display.html?terms=1...---000-.html
TITLE 8 > CHAPTER 12 > SUBCHAPTER II > Part VIII > § 1324
Snip...
(c) Authority to arrest
No officer or person shall have authority to make any arrests for a violation of any provision of this section except officers and employees of the Service designated by the Attorney General, either individually or as a member of a class, [color=red]and all other officers whose duty it is to enforce criminal laws.
"and all other officers whose duty it is to enforce criminal laws.â€
Welcome Latina!
We are a people interested in YOUR point of view on Illegal immigration. Please feel free to tell us whats on your mind on ANY topic. We are all for LEGAL immigration. Totally AGAINST illegals coming here and taking advantage. There is no racism here and we want to hear your point of view.
Here is a video that has FEMA holding a phony press conference possibly so they wouldn't have to face real reporters.
http://www.gabbybabble.com/2007/10/f...us-things.html
StokeyBob,
Check out this site for complete details on the immigration law you mentioned and more...(not meant as an endorsement of the attorney or firm, just a source of information)
http://www.johntfloyd.com/immigration-lawyer.htm